Northern and Southern Hurricanes

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Texashiker

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give it up dude.

No.

Furniture removed from inside of house after 9 feet of storm surge. Bottom right hand corner is where the ditch "used" to be, but its now filled with mud.



Broken windows from storm surge, everything in the house was a total lose.

 

Beev

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"And yeah, it's the same for snow. Sorry, area-that-doesn't-get-much-snow, we don't give a fuck if you got an inch of snow and freaked out about it. You're a pussy. Fuck off."

Don't seem mad at all. Your words seem to have a peaceful, calming effect on me.

Heh, I wouldn't imply they're calming... I just hate stupid people. They don't make me mad, but I always end up berating them. Is this an interesting topic for you or something?
 

Blackjack200

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Sunday evening the weather channel was making a big deal out of a couple of sailboats floating loose in some harbor in new york city. Seriously? Is that they best they could come up with?

After hurricane katrina, ships were washed inland.

After hurricane ike, barges were washed inland and blocked major roads.

How do you make a big deal out of a tiny sailboat?

If anything, the damage in Virgina and Maryland got less attention then 6 inches of water over some boardwalk in New York.

It's the weather channel; wtf are they supposed to talk about? Most of the news coverage I saw last night was of the horrible flooding in Vermont. You know, houses collapsing, people dying and what not. I'm sorry if that's not disasterous enough for you tastes.
 

BeauJangles

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Well, to be fair, the south is used to hurricanes, while the north isn't. And let's not also forget, north and south alike, not even a week ago, cried together in unison like scared little bitches when confronted by a pissant little 5.8 earthquake.

You'd probably be pretty worried, too, if none of your buildings were earthquake-proof and if you had never experienced an earthquake in your life.

Just sayin'
 

nageov3t

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No.

Furniture removed from inside of house after 9 feet of storm surge. Bottom right hand corner is where the ditch "used" to be, but its now filled with mud.



Broken windows from storm surge, everything in the house was a total lose.

should only people who experienced the 1970 Bhola cyclone be allowed to complain/worry about hurricanes?
 

Texashiker

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You know, houses collapsing, people dying and what not. I'm sorry if that's not disasterous enough for you tastes.

Please do not take my post as a lose of compassion. Lose of life is always bad.

The thing is, were the people in an evacuation zone? Did the local authorities call for an evacuation, and they not leave?

One guy died from a falling tree limb. Pro tip, do not go outside during a hurricane.

A lot of lives could have been saved with some common sense. Like a couple were driving around during the storm, when the car ran into rising water.

Most of the people who die in hurricanes, die from poor decisions. Not all of them, but the majority. If the local authorities tell the people to leave, leave, its that simple.

When Ike made landfall there were a lot of people that decided to ride out the storm in their beach houses. Some of their bodies were found 2 and 3 weeks later. Even though an evacuation had been called, they decided to ride out the storm, and they died.
 
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shocksyde

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Heh, I wouldn't imply they're calming... I just hate stupid people. They don't make me mad, but I always end up berating them. Is this an interesting topic for you or something?

I always find it interesting when a natural disaster causes over $1 Billion in damage and people act like it's no big deal. 10 million without power? Not a big deal. 21 deaths? Who cares.
 

DrPizza

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1. To make his point, the OP resorts to using the third most expensive hurricane in US history.

2. Irene is probably on the list for most expensive hurricanes.

3. There were plenty of trees down. As the northeast isn't regularly hit by hurricanes, there are a lot more older trees that wouldn't be able to survive even sustained 40mph winds in conjunction with the ground saturation.

4. The boats in your example were pushed across a swamp. If you live on the downwind side of a swamp connected to a river, I don't think it's extraordinary that the wind pushed a few boats into your yard when the water was up.

5. But, if we use your logic, people can say "hurricane Irene blew a bus into my yard."

6. Apparently you've been watching the wrong stations - there has been some severe flooding in quite a few towns.

All I or the OP mentioned were people making a big deal out of nothing. He's tired of hearing whiny Irene'ers complain about minor little piddly-shit "problems" incessantly. "Hey, good for you, you have to spend an afternoon cleaning up the "carnage." We have gigantic storms all the damn time" if you will.
No you don't. More "frequently" than the Northeast, but certainly not "all the damn time" - this is the first hurricane to make landfall in the US since 2008. 3 years without a hurricane down there doesn't seem to meet the "all the damn time" criteria.
 

shocksyde

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1. To make his point, the OP resorts to using the third most expensive hurricane in US history.

2. Irene is probably on the list for most expensive hurricanes.

3. There were plenty of trees down. As the northeast isn't regularly hit by hurricanes, there are a lot more older trees that wouldn't be able to survive even sustained 40mph winds in conjunction with the ground saturation.

4. The boats in your example were pushed across a swamp. If you live on the downwind side of a swamp connected to a river, I don't think it's extraordinary that the wind pushed a few boats into your yard when the water was up.

5. But, if we use your logic, people can say "hurricane Irene blew a bus into my yard."

6. Apparently you've been watching the wrong stations - there has been some severe flooding in quite a few towns.


No you don't. More "frequently" than the Northeast, but certainly not "all the damn time" - this is the first hurricane to make landfall in the US since 2008. 3 years without a hurricane down there doesn't seem to meet the "all the damn time" criteria.

I feel like injecting any sort of logic into this conversation may get their blood boiling.
 

Blackjack200

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Please do not take my post as a lose of compassion. Lose of life is always bad.

The thing is, were the people in an evacuation zone? Did the local authorities call for an evacuation, and they not leave?

One guy died from a falling tree limb. Pro tip, do not go outside during a hurricane.

A lot of lives could have been saved with some common sense. Like a couple were driving around during the storm, when the car ran into rising water.

Most of the people who die in hurricanes, die from poor decisions. Not all of them, but the majority. If the local authorities tell the people to leave, leave, its that simple.

When Ike made landfall there were a lot of people that decided to ride out the storm in their beach houses. Some of their bodies were found 2 and 3 weeks later. Even though an evacuation had been called, they decided to ride out the storm, and they died.

The people were not in an evacuation zone. The governor said evacuation was impractical because of Vermont's geography and I think they didn't expect as much rain as they got (I think the storm was supposed to hammer NY/NJ and be weaker by the time it got up there).

It's easy to sit in your chair and say every preventable death was the result of people being stupid. But you don't know why that person was outside when he got hit by the tree limb.

I went sailing less than 12 hours before the the eye of the storm was supposed to arrive (the outer bands started hitting us as we tied the boat up). Everything went fine, and we had an awesome time. But if something had happened to us I bet this forum would have been full of people saying "lol, what kind of dumbass goes sailing in a hurricane!!"
 

Texashiker

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It's easy to sit in your chair and say every preventable death was the result of people being stupid. But you don't know why that person was outside when he got hit by the tree limb.

Re-read my post, I said the "majority", not "all" deaths.

When you see cars and trucks in the middle of the street, flooded out, they were riding around instead of being at a safe location. And dont tell me they were trying to get to a safe place, because they had plenty of warnings ahead of time.

I have been through several tropical storms, and several hurricanes. So I speak from first hand experience when it comes to these types of storms. The pictures I have been posting in this thread, I took all of those pics. I have waded through the flood waters, and I have seen the damage of hurricanes first hand.

When the weather channel was reporting in the middle of the storm, and people were driving around, I shook my head. And people wonder why there were so many deaths? It appears to me that the general public did not take the storm too seriously.

1. To make his point, the OP resorts to using the third most expensive hurricane in US history.

Irene is going to be expensive because of "where" it hit. Property values are high in the northeast. If Irene would have hit some marsh in Louisiana, damage values would have been less.

Inflate the property values so that only certain income levels can live there, expect high value damages
 
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dank69

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No.

Furniture removed from inside of house after 9 feet of storm surge. Bottom right hand corner is where the ditch "used" to be, but its now filled with mud.



Broken windows from storm surge, everything in the house was a total lose.

East Haven, CT:


VT:


Kindly go fuck yourself.
 

shocksyde

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Tell everyone in Texas to stop whining about the worst drought in over 100 years.

So annoying.
 

Gibson486

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So what exactly is the point of this thread then? New England or NY does not get hurricanes or any huge natural disasters that often. So what? Do you feel special because Texas has them? We do not have them, so of course media is going to blow it out of proportion, just like your population blows 1 inch of snow out of proportion.
 

DrPizza

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Hmmm...
Irene "killed" 21. We'll discount 2 of those though, since they were the southern brand of idiots (Florida) and not the northern brand of idiots, like the guy who died canoeing in a flooded river. (not that everyone who died did so doing something foolish; of those 21, quite a few weren't due to negligence in any way.)
edit: on second thought, it seems that nearly half of the deaths are wrongly attributed to the storm after car accidents. Apparently, if you're driving too fast for road conditions, and hydroplane into a tree, it's not your fault, it's Irene's fault, according to whoever makes these statistics.
edit edit: deaths from NC and Virginia should get lumped into the South, which along with the surfers in Florida, make up the majority of deaths from Irene.

deaths in the North: fire, stranded in car in high water (foolish), electrocution while saving a child, falling into flooded creek (looking on after Irene had passed), 3 people outdoors killed by trees, and a driver crashed. So, a total of 6 people died as a result of going outside, and one of them was from simply losing control on a wet road, long before the real effects of Irene were present.


But, since Texashiker wants to use Ike as the rubric, 195 people died from Ike. Hmmmm... And, Irene affected many millions more people. Seems that the people up North are a lot better about heeding the advice of officials than the people down South. Over 1000 died in Katrina as a result of not evacuating when told to?
 
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Blackjack200

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Hmmm...
Irene "killed" 21. We'll discount 2 of those though, since they were the southern brand of idiots (Florida) and not the northern brand of idiots, like the guy who died canoeing in a flooded river.

But, since Texashiker wants to use Ike as the rubric, 195 people died from Ike. 21 from Irene. Hmmmm... And, Irene affected many millions more people. Seems that the people up North are a lot better about heeding the advice of officials than the people down South.

No, you don't get it. Ike was a RRRREEEAAALLLL storm that dropped anvils on people's heads and gave them diabitis. Irene couldn't even get electricity out of the wind farms.
 

SP33Demon

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Hmmm...
Irene "killed" 21. We'll discount 2 of those though, since they were the southern brand of idiots (Florida) and not the northern brand of idiots, like the guy who died canoeing in a flooded river. (not that everyone who died did so doing something foolish; of those 21, quite a few weren't due to negligence in any way.)
edit: on second thought, it seems that nearly half of the deaths are wrongly attributed to the storm after car accidents. Apparently, if you're driving too fast for road conditions, and hydroplane into a tree, it's not your fault, it's Irene's fault, according to whoever makes these statistics.
edit edit: deaths from NC and Virginia should get lumped into the South, which along with the surfers in Florida, make up the majority of deaths from Irene.

deaths in the North: fire, stranded in car in high water (foolish), electrocution while saving a child, falling into flooded creek, 3 people outdoors killed by trees, and a driver crashed. So, a total of 6 people died as a result of going outside, and one of them was from simply losing control on a wet road, long before the real effects of Irene were present.


But, since Texashiker wants to use Ike as the rubric, 195 people died from Ike. Hmmmm... And, Irene affected many millions more people. Seems that the people up North are a lot better about heeding the advice of officials than the people down South.

Death toll is now 24 and climbing...
 

shocksyde

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This storm can't even kill more people than a Mexican drug cartel.

What a lame piece of shit.

OHMAGAWD Seriously.
 

Texashiker

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Seems that the people up North are a lot better about heeding the advice of officials than the people down South.

The people in the south might suffer from "complacency with disaster preparedness."

"Nothing happened during any other the other hurricanes, so why worry about this one?"

My family and I evacuated for hurricane Andrew, only for the storm to make a sharp turn to the north and go into Louisiana.

Hurricane Rita came through, and all we got was a lot of trees blown down and 18 days without power.

Hurricane Gustav came through Sabine Pass/Port Arthur, people were told to evacuate, and barely any damage was done.

By the time Ike came through, people were tired of evacuating.
 
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ch33zw1z

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The people in the south might suffer from "complacency with disaster preparedness."

"Nothing happened during any other the other hurricanes, so why worry about this one?"

My family and I evacuated for hurricane Andrew, only for the storm to make a sharp turn to the north and go into Louisiana.

Hurricane Rita came through, and all we got was a lot of trees blown down and 18 days without power.

Hurricane Gustav came through Sabine Pass/Port Arthur, people were told to evacuate, and barely any damage was done.

By the time Ike came through, people were tired of evacuating.

lazy southerners. go figure.
 

Texashiker

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lazy southerners. go figure.

Yea, its hot outside. Who "really" wants to evacuate when its 100 degrees.


Tell them to move.

A lot of people did.

In my home town of Bridge City, a lot of people that had recently moved there put their homes up for sale and moved. A lot of older people that had moved to BC for the school district, moved after the storm. They had moved to BC for the schools, their kids are now grown, so there was no reason to stay.

3 of the 5 schools received so much flood water that they had to be demolished, and new schools built.
 
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