Not Buying AMD chips for another year

[JASANITY]

Like I originally posted on these message boards a year ago, Desktop computers will be overtaken by Game consoles purely on price to performance ratios. Desktops will be for work only and game consoles will have keyboard and mouse add-ons. You can't beat the price to performance for Xbox 360, and who knows whats coming out next week at E3! 500 bucks for one of these game consoles? Cheaper than the top performing video cards that will be available for a PC and much cheaper. Short AMD and Intel stock while you can!

 

[logic0010]

lmao well personaly im investing in microsoft
think linux will take em out

but your right

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I quess if all you want from a machine is the ability to play proprietary games or watch DVD's then the game console is all you need (PS2 has done this for several years)

But for 99% of computer users, a game console will not do what they want to do. These new consoles although very nice, will in no way affect the desktop PC market.

 

[Marthisdil]

All MS has to do is include a browser and email client and their set. Or a version of WinXP on a DVD that has office installed, and there you go - your XBox is a desktop-equivalent pc.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Marthisdil
All MS has to do is include a browser and email client and their set. Or a version of WinXP on a DVD that has office installed, and there you go - your XBox is a desktop-equivalent pc.

Or not.
People seem to over-simplify what they do with their desktop PC.
I don't think I could use a music player, BitTorrent, IRC and broswe the internet on a machine such as the XBox 360 with some MS software.
The freedom of a PC could only be matched by consoles if they pretty much WERE PC's, ie: same OS/software support. Which is why they never will be.

 

[Ruhnie]

Originally posted by: JASANITY
Like I originally posted on these message boards a year ago, Desktop computers will be overtaken by Game consoles purely on price to performance ratios. Desktops will be for work only and game consoles will have keyboard and mouse add-ons. You can't beat the price to performance for Xbox 360, and who knows whats coming out next week at E3! 500 bucks for one of these game consoles? Cheaper than the top performing video cards that will be available for a PC and much cheaper. Short AMD and Intel stock while you can!

rofl I want what you're smoking...

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: JASANITY
Like I originally posted on these message boards a year ago, Desktop computers will be overtaken by Game consoles purely on price to performance ratios. Desktops will be for work only and game consoles will have keyboard and mouse add-ons. You can't beat the price to performance for Xbox 360, and who knows whats coming out next week at E3! 500 bucks for one of these game consoles? Cheaper than the top performing video cards that will be available for a PC and much cheaper. Short AMD and Intel stock while you can!

All that and the best controller for FPS games evar!

Oh, wait... controllers suck for FPS games

All this and great MMORPGs too

Hmmm.... well, not exactly

well, at least you'll be able to play madden2006

Oh and I found this sentence your most enlightening:

Cheaper than the top performing video cards that will be available for a PC and much cheaper.

Get's my vote for best use of redundancy in the last week.

 

[theMan]

i would pay 5000 on a desktop before spent a dime on a console. i hate those things. they're evil i tell you. EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: Marthisdil
All MS has to do is include a browser and email client and their set. Or a version of WinXP on a DVD that has office installed, and there you go - your XBox is a desktop-equivalent pc.

Or not.
People seem to over-simplify what they do with their desktop PC.
I don't think I could use a music player, BitTorrent, IRC and broswe the internet on a machine such as the XBox 360 with some MS software.
The freedom of a PC could only be matched by consoles if they pretty much WERE PC's, ie: same OS/software support. Which is why they never will be.

Very true. But then wouldnt it be better to have AXP1600+ and 512mb of ram for the above tasks you just specified and a full blown console for gaming instead of spending $1.5 grand to have a similar gaming experience on a PC? That I think is the point here. PCs wont go away as office machines, but as gaming machines....Although I do not agree with that statement either. Because for now a precision of a mouse and keyboard cannot be matched on a console. It could still become cheaper to own a slow PC for general tasks and a specialized "PC" (ie game console) just for games. Maybe that is the future?

 

[Kevon]

Heh, people have been predicting the death of the pc for 20 years and it hasn't happened yet.

I think PC's now are similar to the way cars were in the 50's or 60's (I think, I wasn't born until '71, so what do I know); the enthusiast market is driven because people like to tinker and tweak and customize, kind of how I think cars used to be (and still are, to a certain extent). And that market is HUGE. All you have to do is look at the number of different motherboard makers out there. There're dozens!

Think of how many people are terrified to mess with a computer, but there are so many people out there perfectly comfortable replacing motherboards, chips, memory, drives whatever, that it drives an entire industry. If there wasn't a market for it, there wouldn't be all those companies out there. Everyone would just be buying Dells.

I do not think a significant part of this market is going to completely give up PC's and buy Xboxes or PS3. I think they do it because they like it and they're not going to quit. As long as they're there, there will be games made for them.

And it's yet to be proven to me that pc games are inferior to console games in any way.

 

[Lithan]

You couldn't possibly be more wrong. As computers become cheaper and consoles become more expensive, consoles keep trying to become more and more like computers to keep from having computers take THEIR market share. Computer gamers are growing in every single age group. Console gamers are only growing in the teens to middle age groups according to the data I've seen.

 

[bersl2]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: Marthisdil
All MS has to do is include a browser and email client and their set. Or a version of WinXP on a DVD that has office installed, and there you go - your XBox is a desktop-equivalent pc.

Or not.
People seem to over-simplify what they do with their desktop PC.
I don't think I could use a music player, BitTorrent, IRC and broswe the internet on a machine such as the XBox 360 with some MS software.
The freedom of a PC could only be matched by consoles if they pretty much WERE PC's, ie: same OS/software support. Which is why they never will be.

Sometimes I feel---and this is usually after dealing with idiots---that the PC was a mistake, because most people are too stupid to do even the most basic administrative tasks, and that a locked-down service for them would be best.

And then I remember that if this ever were successful, those few of us who do know what we're doing would be forsaken by most services, because it would be more economical not to support us.

 

[Lithan]

Also shorting stocks that are speculated to be in a market moving shortly to dividends isn't a bright idea.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: JASANITY
Like I originally posted on these message boards a year ago, Desktop computers will be overtaken by Game consoles purely on price to performance ratios. Desktops will be for work only and game consoles will have keyboard and mouse add-ons. You can't beat the price to performance for Xbox 360, and who knows whats coming out next week at E3! 500 bucks for one of these game consoles? Cheaper than the top performing video cards that will be available for a PC and much cheaper. Short AMD and Intel stock while you can!

Yes, get rid of AMD and Intel stock because incredibly powerful multi-purpose multi-core X86 cpu's are going to get pawned by highly proprietary do one thing very, very, well Power PC variant chips. I want to see Autocad, Photoshop, Video Editing, Animation, (Multimedia creation i.e Star Wars, office productivity (real multi-tasking not just Office open), huge databases etc. etc. etc. all run on the new Universal ALL Powerful XBOX 360 :disgust:

I think some of the splatter from overly excited spec junkies need to step back and rexamine the realities of modern computing

 

[sandorski]

PC gaming will exist a longtime after the XBox2 can be had at a Garage Sale for $1

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: logic0010
lmao well personaly im investing in microsoft
think linux will take em out

but your right

Microsoft is currently earning 12billion in revenue per quarter. That is 50 billion a year! Their sales are increasing every quarter and somehow I don't think Linux is scaring them too badly. Maybe a little but 12 billion a quarter. Jesus.

Edit: Well 48 billion per year but you catch my drift ehh

 

[Greenman]

How the hell do they sell all that hardware so cheap? It has to be supported by game sales. But how much can they get for a game?

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Greenman
How the hell do they sell all that hardware so cheap? It has to be supported by game sales. But how much can they get for a game?

Anywhere from 55 to 105 USD these days. Console hardware is not a profit making market for the first couple of years.

 

[Greenman]

The frost would be thick in hell before I'd shell out $100 for a game. Though it's good markiting, kind of like the inkjet printer market, dump the printers at a loss, sell ink at 2 bux a drop.

 

[Zebo]

You're an idiot. When that xbox comes out there will be a PC graphics card at least as fast. In another year after that, the PC video card will be twice as fast.. another year after that 4x as fast. See you just can't upgrade warez inside xbox, xbox is a five years plan.

Nevermind you can't run shat on the thing. Do your taxes? no. Do some lightwave? no. Autocad? no and a million other examples.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Greenman
How the hell do they sell all that hardware so cheap? It has to be supported by game sales. But how much can they get for a game?

Exactly. game sales and volume buys off IBM and ATI... sell three games and you start making money... My boys have ~55 xbox games.

 

[JASANITY]

Some of you are not catching the point. I'm saying all you need is a cheap ass PC to run the regular non-game based tasks. For gaming, all you need is an Xbox 360 with a keyboard and mouse and you save a few grand. What does this mean? All these new dual core and whatever crap processors are useless for home users. Only businesses will be able to take advantage of the new processing power. Save some money, utility computing is the future anyways.

 

[clarkey01]

Im sure MS make a loss on every xbox the sell (a while ago it was about ~ -100). I just hope they have sorted the price of components out etc this time around... Not like Bill needs the money mind you.


48 billion a year...My word

I think in that point in my life I would quit trying to take over the world and drive a 1970 pontiac firebrid into the front windows at an IBM building " Hay guys, hows it going, still using Linux?"

 

[cecco]

My first computer was a Commodore64. Before I got back into PCs with a 133Mhz Gateway I owned a NES, Genesis, SNES, and a Jaguar64. I will tell the best gaming moments I had were in Computers. I can hardly recall what I played on consoles anymore.

My brother continues to buy consoles and has a PS, PS2 and XBOX. Yet, his jaw draps when I fire up my rig and show him the latest and greatest.

Personally I think that will always be the case.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: cecco
My first computer was a Commodore64. Before I got back into PCs with a 133Mhz Gateway I owned a NES, Genesis, SNES, and a Jaguar64. I will tell the best gaming moments I had were in Computers. I can hardly recall what I played on consoles anymore.

My brother continues to buy consoles and has a PS, PS2 and XBOX. Yet, his jaw draps when I fire up my rig and show him the latest and greatest.

Personally I think that will always be the case.

Were/are you introverted? I ask because I have had the best gaming experiences of my life playing console games with friends in the past. Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong, Sports games, and fighting games consumed many hours with laughing, trash talking, ect. Sitting alone in my computer room doing that over the net with a headset, or even LAN parties for that matter, is far removed, and a very poor substitute, from the communal goodness of having a pretty girl lying in front of you on her belly with a controller in her hands :evil: