Not Hot, but this dog needs your help.

[Illusio]

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, but anyone with some spare paypal laying around, this dog needs your help...

this is taken from one of the following websites:

In the early morning hours of Friday, June 28th, the Humane Society of North Texas received a request for help from the Fort Worth Police Department regarding a horrific crime. A dog had been seen running down the street yelping in pain as flames engulfed its body. HSNT Investigator Thompson arrived to find Daisy, a female 10 month old Shar Pei mix puppy, huddled in the back corner of a yard whining in pain. What remained of her hair was singed and well over half of her body was covered in burns. Investigator Thompson immediately rushed Daisy to a 24 hour emergency clinic.

HSNT and Daisy now need your help!!!!!! She is in serious condition at the emergency animal hospital and her future is still uncertain. The bill for her care is going to be very expensive and care time consuming. Additionally, just operating our cruelty investigation department costs hundreds of dollars daily. Without your support HSNT could not be here to help Daisy or any of the hundreds of animals we are currently housing. Please help us to help Daisy and to make sure we are here for every animal that needs our help.

Link to the Humane Society of North Texas website

Story about them catching the criminal

Paypal link: https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=hsnt@hsnt.net

or checks can be sent to:

Humane Society of North Texas
ATTENTION: DAISY c/o HSNT
1840 E. Lancaster Avenue
Ft. Worth, Texas 76103

Some punishments just aren't enough....

 

[iwearnosox]

Fixed paypal donation link.

Horrible story, blech.

How about some chicken tick tack toe instead?

 

[iwearnosox]

Ok, I'm in for $10. Damn charities.

When I'm poor will you all paypal me if I set myself on fire and run over to starbucks?

 

[rgwalt]

The justice I would deal would be swift and unforgiving.

I hope he makes ammends with God. He will get no forgiveness from me if he is found guilty. All life is precious. What right does he have to do that to one of God's creatures.

I hope the humane society makes the humane choice for this dog, whatever that may be, and not prolong a painful life unless recovery is a possibilty.

Ryan

 

[byror]

not to thread more crap(this was already on the first page when i posted). but wtf is going on. why is there so much irrelevant crap being posted here lately. moderators on strike or something?

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: rgwalt
The justice I would deal would be swift and unforgiving.

I hope he makes ammends with God. He will get no forgiveness from me if he is found guilty. All life is precious. What right does he have to do that to one of God's creatures.

I don't know what this has to do with god really. I'll give you my athiest perspective, though: this guy is a moron, a giant tool and should be set on fire himself.

There's allot of f***ed up people in this world, I've been privileged enough to meet too many of them. It's us vs them. If you feel like donating that would seem the most effective way to help at this point, unless you've got some serious redneck revenge skills.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: byror
not to thread more crap(this was already on the first page when i posted). but wtf is going on. why is there so much irrelevant crap being posted here lately. moderators on strike or something?

It's a community, man. People are moved to share, sometimes in the wrong forum. BFD. Go earn your stripes then I'll listen to you bitch later.

 

[TEEZLE]

up before the lock

 

[iwearnosox]

Don't lock it. Have some compassion.

Just my perspective.

 

[Lilspup]

That is so sad, I have a dog and three cats, I would hate to even think about that happening to them or any animal for that matter.

 

[rgwalt]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox

Originally posted by: rgwalt
The justice I would deal would be swift and unforgiving.

I hope he makes ammends with God. He will get no forgiveness from me if he is found guilty. All life is precious. What right does he have to do that to one of God's creatures.

I don't know what this has to do with god really. I'll give you my athiest perspective, though: this guy is a moron, a giant tool and should be set on fire himself.

There's allot of f***ed up people in this world, I've been privileged enough to meet too many of them. It's us vs them. If you feel like donating that would seem the most effective way to help at this point, unless you've got some serious redneck revenge skills.

We just have different outlooks on things buddy. I was just sharing my feeling on the subject. BTW, where did you come up with "redneck revenge skills"? Do I come across as a redneck in my post, or is it that I live in Indiana, or that I believe in God, or both? Just curious.

Ryan

 

[iwearnosox]

Uh, and so was I.

Redneck revenge skills, as in the guy must be a complete redkneck to have done such a thing, and how one would go about exacting revenge on him.

A little touchy today are we?

 

[TheFishingGeek]

This isn't a theological discussion, this is a plea to help pay the vet bills for a dog who was horribly treated by a man who is now in jail (but will likely get off with a wrist-slap).

Please stay focussed, and if you don't like what someone posted then take it to PM.

 

[iwearnosox]

Here's an email I got from them after my donation:

Thank you very much for the donation you have made. We receive no tax funding or any monetary support from any other agencies such as the United Way or the Red Cross, so it is only through the kindness of people like you that we are able to keep our doors open to the innocent animals that we take in.

As of today, Daisy is still recovering from her attack. The good news is that she is eating, drinking, and using the bathroom on her own. Also, we believe that she is not going to lose her eyesight as was originally feared. This does not mean that she is out of the woods yet as secondary infections are still a real threat. But so far, the veterinarians are very pleased with her progress and we are hopeful that she is going to make a full recover. Your donation will help us ensure that she receives the highest quality of care and that she is given the best chance to lead a long and happy life.

If you would send us your address, we can mail you a donation receipt and add you to our mailing address if you would like.

Once again, thank you for your support.
Jamey Cantrell
Operations Director

 

[Johnbear007]

This is a dog right? Why didnt they just put her down? Im not trying to be callous, and I think the guy that did this should be punished severly, but It seems it would be less painful for everyone if they just put the dog to sleep....

There are people dying of terrible diseases, and dying of hunger that could use your donations. It seems unreasonable to devote resources to saving a dog when you could devote them to saving a human, or at lesat something that exhibits attributes of self awareness, like a dolphin. A dog doesnt have any significant concept of it's own existence, although people tend to personify their pets and see in them things that don't exist. The dog understands things like pain, THAt is significant to the dogs experience, so if you want to truly serve the dog's interests, it makes more sense to put it down gently and painlessly than make it suffer through a long recovery period. Just realize that what you are paying for is the emotional support of the human owner, you arent really representing what is logically in the dog's best interest.


Oh, and before someone freaks out on me,

I'm politley sharing my opinion, and if anyone really feels the need to help this dog, then go ahead. I'm not interested in getting into an ad hom pissing contest.

 

[DanFungus]

that's horrible, bump for a good cause

 

[im2smrt4u]

Don't lock, but move this to OT...its not a hot deal.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Johnbear007
This is a dog right? Why didnt they just put her down? Im not trying to be callous, and I think the guy that did this should be punished severly, but It seems it would be less painful for everyone if they just put the dog to sleep....

There are people dying of terrible diseases, and dying of hunger that could use your donations. It seems unreasonable to devote resources to saving a dog when you could devote them to saving a human, or at lesat something that exhibits attributes of self awareness, like a dolphin. A dog doesnt have any significant concept of it's own existence, although people tend to personify their pets and see in them things that don't exist. The dog understands things like pain, THAt is significant to the dogs experience, so if you want to truly serve the dog's interests, it makes more sense to put it down gently and painlessly than make it suffer through a long recovery period. Just realize that what you are paying for is the emotional support of the human owner, you arent really representing what is logically in the dog's best interest.


Oh, and before someone freaks out on me,

I'm politley sharing my opinion, and if anyone really feels the need to help this dog, then go ahead. I'm not interested in getting into an ad hom pissing contest.

man, you are a f***ing bastard. go away.

animals dont deserve this. people will always die of disease and things happen. i donate whether it be a bird or a human. its an animal that was innocent and deserves a chance. pets are a big part of most peoples lives, and those of you who dont have pets, dont contradict that because if you havent had a pet, you wouldnt know the comfort and stress relief it can give you.

 

[TNTrulez]

Very Sad.

 

[slycat]

everybody just chill...
if u'r riled up, donate
if not move on.

no need for offences...from either side.

 

[lkstafford]

I appreciate the view of Slycat - I personally will be sending a donation - But I respected everyone's views that were posted - the religious individual, the atheist, the person who felt it best to "put the dog down".

All well reasoned points of view - I don't believe anyone wanted to offend anyone. Contribrute or not - but I acutually appreciated the point of view of those who don't share mine.

 

[FreemoreJohnson]

This is a dog right? Why didnt they just put her down? Im not trying to be callous, and I think the guy that did this should be punished severly, but It seems it would be less painful for everyone if they just put the dog to sleep....

The dog is in pain. Obviously, after you die, your pain is over. However, I hardly think that the solution to all pain is to kill the patient. There are times when that is the best option, but here, where it is eating and functioning on its own and is likely to fully recover, is a good example of when it is not the best option.

There are people dying of terrible diseases, and dying of hunger that could use your donations. It seems unreasonable to devote resources to saving a dog when you could devote them to saving a human, or at lesat something that exhibits attributes of self awareness, like a dolphin. A dog doesnt have any significant concept of it's own existence, although people tend to personify their pets and see in them things that don't exist.

You said you didn't want to be callous, but now you're generalizing about the suffering of different groups of animals. Here we have a specific instance of an animal who has not harmed anyone who has been viciously attacked by human beings. It's not unreasonable to donate some money to help that specific animal. In fact, it is quite reasonable.

It is also clearly not unreasonable to donate to charities for actual human beings. But they aren't mutually exclusive.

BTW, your statement that a dog doesn't exhibit self awareness is just completely off-base. If you've ever owned a dog you know that it has emotions, it understands physical pain, it becomes attached to people, and it communicates with them in its own way. If they don't have self-awareness, then neither do humans.

As for dolphins. I guess they do, I've seen them jump around with ships on television, but I've never lived with one, so, whatever.

The dog understands things like pain, THAt is significant to the dogs experience, so if you want to truly serve the dog's interests, it makes more sense to put it down gently and painlessly than make it suffer through a long recovery period.

This just doesn't bear up under scrutiny. If you do experience pain, even if it's going to take a long recovery, that doesn't necessarily mean that being put to sleep is the best option. You have to weigh its likelihood of a good life in the future, its potential for a happy life, and a number of other variables. You're not even engaging in the analysis.

Oh, and before someone freaks out on me,

I'm politley sharing my opinion, and if anyone really feels the need to help this dog, then go ahead. I'm not interested in getting into an ad hom pissing contest.

I'm not attacking you, I'm contradicting your ideas. And if you know that your idea will generate controversy, don't try to duck out of the inevitable response to it by snivelling.

 

[RobK]

this does not belong in this forum. Off Topic is for posts about "community"

 

[dew042]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Don't lock it. Have some compassion.

Just my perspective.

compassion is not forcing this dog to live a life of continual pain. this is a self-serving cause to make animal lovers feel good. a full life of pain from 2nd and 3rd degree burns is not what i call quality of life. perhaps you should think deeper about what compassion really means.

sometimes these things are not black and white, but rather multifaceted in their implications. your generosity is well-intentioned, but the result is not what i would call compassionate.

dew.

 

[dew042]

If you do experience pain, even if it's going to take a long recovery, that doesn't necessarily mean that being put to sleep is the best option. You have to weigh its likelihood of a good life in the future, its potential for a happy life, and a number of other variables. You're not even engaging in the analysis.

I'm not attacking you, I'm contradicting your ideas. And if you know that your idea will generate controversy, don't try to duck out of the inevitable response to it by snivelling.

there is no recovery from burns. they are a life long condition. this dog will never stop hurting. that is not humane at all.

dew.