NOT HOT! Just FYI: Cyberwings - Received an email from DomainsPricedRight.com

[Brasscat]

I was booted from webchat (Java based chat client) too -- But I loaded up MiRC and was back in. No Problemo. But why do I go in there? The "reps" have nothing to say except turn on moderation when people start talking about alternate hosting firms.

There's been a gentle sigh of relief today when CEO-Shawn changed his nameserver at godaddy. But what standard are we holding this guy to? It's over 15 days of downtime and this is the only proof we have that he's done anything -- besides yell at his customers and run "pre-launch sales."

 

[kermalou]

guys i am living this soap opera and now for an update.................


posted in irc tonight, you saw it here first

an employee of cyberwings posted this

<+LSS_CWV> jas she hasn't posted yet
[18:13] <+LSS_CWV> ack wrong window
[18:14] Text@CW-PAMIn the time i have been away i have taken some time for thought.....I just really want to say from my heart that I am truly sorry if i upset, offended, or seemed unsupported earlier...As i have said My husband and I both work for this company and we area bit stressed over this situation...., this is so hard for all of us, everyone involved...i wish we could ALL just decide to please surround this
[18:16] Text@CW-PAMwhole situation with a bit more grace, hope and positivity....You must all agree that adding more fuel to the fire will keep the fire raging longer....i sense intuitively that tomorrow will be the day!!! i really think something major will shift around this situation....there may be a silver lining to this cloud for all concerned...i think we learn nothing in life unless we see what life is trying
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[18:18] Text@CW-PAM to teach us every day...I do love this company and what its intent is...i know there are flaws///ok major flaws in some cases...but those problems will and are being remedied as we speak...and trust me Shawn has a whole NEW outlook on things....I am seeing to it personally...I love him dearly and growing pains really can suck...yes CW-Pam said suck...it does...he is learning hard lessons now as we
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[18:19] <@CW-Pam> all sometimes do...From the heart I personally apologize for any inconvenience i may have caused in the situation...as you know i do not come in here much because my views are scorned upon...that hurts me not what hurts is that all my brothers and sisters of Earth cannot and will not see the error of their ways...they are too busy pointing at someone else.
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you can all thank me later


here is some more

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[18:21] Text@CW-PAMWell blah blah...There IS hope for Cyberwings but we did need to go through this transformation....maybe and interestingly as soon as i joined this company the SH.. hit the fan maybe it is because i demand integrity from myself and others and if i am to align myself with Shawn and this company then we shall have integrity here or i will not be here for long.....I mean that from my heart and i hope
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[18:22] Text@CW-PAMat least when i am in here that you can be a little more sensitive to my feelings and i promise to offer the same to all of you!!! TOUCHE????
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for those that get kicked come into #cw-talk

 

[RSG2]

What IRC server are you guys connecting to to get access to this chat? The Cyberwings one doesn't work

 

[GotComputers]

Wow...sounds near-cultish! Eerie.

 

[SinMen]

Originally posted by: Brasscat
I was booted from webchat (Java based chat client) too

What is the URL for the Java based website?

 

[preCRT]

webchat

 

[BarneyFife]

try http://java.webchat.org

 

[BarneyFife]

Funniest quote

<CEO-Shawn> SQUIRRELGUY: I have 4 cell phones, 2 digital, 2 analog, so I have coverage everywhere. Believe me, I'm in contact with our staff all th etime.

 

[RSG2]

Latest Whois Stuff for CW and Cogent

What the heck - Wolfie wasn't here...

Just when it looked darkest (It looks really bad having the RackShack boxes turned off out of the blue), a tiny speck of hope. Because that's all anyone really has left...besides, I'm stuill not ready for the story to end. Cause I really don't want to have to start watching the daytime courtrooom shows or Jerry Springer...

 

[wkendrvr]

This all reminds me of a story...

A boy arranges to buy a donkey for $20... When the donkey arrives, it is clearly dead. He asks the guy for his money back but the guy already spent it. So, what does he do? He sells raffle tickets for $4 a piece to 100 people. The guy that sold him the donkey asked him what happened when the winner found out it was dead. The kid replies, "He was happy I gave him his $4 back" Net in kid's pocket $396 for a dead donkey...

 

[SpideyCU]

RSG2, while I appreciate that info you posted, that can't possibly be true. We've already had people state that those are Class A IP addresses, and no way in the world could Cyberwings own any. And since I know the info about moving to Cogent was a lie, that must also be false. Stop fabricating information!

Sorry, just had to throw in a little sarcasm from a different angle (and thus, don my flame-attractant suit). As much as I love watching this soap opera and fully agree that 'Mr. CEO' has bungled this continually and mindlessly, sometimes the attackers are a little too bloodthirsty and begin to sound as ridiculous as those they're attacking. "Oooh, ooh, let's argue over whether this is a Class A or Class C network technically, because it's more proof I can give to the Feds that this Shawn person is a BAD GUY!!!" (I'm not talking about those who were genuinely curious about the difference, and those who were good enough to explain it). Give it a rest fellas - the entire AT community here knows what a circus this company has been, especially in the past month. Your fervent, ravenous nit-picking isn't going to enlighten anyone. I know you have more important things to do than post (for some of you, very literally) every few minutes here. At least...I hope you do.

If you really have to attack something, let's start with the "brothers and sisters of Earth" comments made by Pam in chat. Now THERE is something frightening.

 

[johto]

Originally posted by: shawnman

edit: thanks for removing the word wrong johto

yeah sorry about that... second time through and things fell together...

im still interested in this as well:

"Did I mention that the 100Mbit line is BLAZING fast and our Dual T3's have 2 second BGP4 Routing Redundancy!?!?"-CEO-Turkey

now im no network engineer, but 2 seconds have nothing to do with bgp4, correct??

also, (stupid question) if ip addresses are non portable, does that not only mean they can't be transferred away to another company but also that they can't be routed over over companies lines?? all the ips he has announced are cogent ones... does that mean the t3s are simply bs?

 

[CIRCUS]

Originally posted by: wkendrvr
This all reminds me of a story...

A boy arranges to buy a donkey for $20...

Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa, damn good little story pal Very funny

Is fatso boy back with his servers or, he is still surfing howstuffworks.com to learn about networking ?

 

[phatcow]

bgp is like a failover type of protocal, wehre if one router goes down, network reachability informaton gets passed down, so it fails over to the redundant router... That two seconds MIGHT be the amount of time for network failover to the redundant link...
but then again, mr ceo might be bs-ing

Originally posted by: johto

Originally posted by: shawnman

edit: thanks for removing the word wrong johto

yeah sorry about that... second time through and things fell together...

im still interested in this as well:

"Did I mention that the 100Mbit line is BLAZING fast and our Dual T3's have 2 second BGP4 Routing Redundancy!?!?"-CEO-Turkey

now im no network engineer, but 2 seconds have nothing to do with bgp4, correct??

also, (stupid question) if ip addresses are non portable, does that not only mean they can't be transferred away to another company but also that they can't be routed over over companies lines?? all the ips he has announced are cogent ones... does that mean the t3s are simply bs?

 

[BarneyFife]

Cyberwings on the BBC

 

[TNTrulez]

Lol. . this is all so funny.

 

[MontyBurns]

The transcript of that IRC chat is priceless.... I have never heard of a company urging its customers to come together, be supportive of each other, join for a group hug... all the while collecting $$ from them for services they haven't delivered!


And really, I'm kind of back to where I was in the very beginning, when I first started suggesting Wolfie is bonkers. Why in the world are so many people so blindly dedicated to this company? The ONLY THING cyberwings EVER had that other hosts didn't was a price that seemed too good to be true. And, hey, what do you know, it was. The company had no advantage in technology, certainly no advantage in customer/technical support, and a Web page that looked pretty basic (to put it nicely).

Yet, people still keep foaming about how great everything will be if (or when) the company comes back online. But what exactly will be so great about it? What makes cyberwings better than other hosts that, you know, deliver services in exchange for money?

 

[largo]

As a customer who was getting perfectly good service until ~July, I'm content to wait this all out. I just hope that this downtime doesn't last too much longer, and they don't have similar problems with the new Data Center. As for those misinformed people who like shouting about shawn being a fraud, on his way to hawaii etc, I will just say this. You don't provide hosting to several thousand people, including many resellers, for over a year and at excellent speeds (and at such low prices), without having a large amount of cash to invest in the company.

I take this as evidence of Shawn's claims that he has substantial resources that he is willing to invest in the company to get it up and keep it running. This in combination with the fact that after several months of watching him communicate in IRC, he seems genuine to me. I guess only time will tell the fate of cyberwings, and conjecture at this point is pretty useless.

I know, waiting patiently is nowhere near as much fun as crowing about CW's "demise", and laughing at their customers, but the decent thing to do is to keep yourself informed, and post something here if you have something useful or factual to say. Not that there were a lot of facts in my post, but I thought it needed to be said.

Patience is a virtue

-Largo

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: MontyBurns
The transcript of that IRC chat is priceless.... I have never heard of a company urging its customers to come together, be supportive of each other, join for a group hug... all the while collecting $$ from them for services they haven't delivered!


And really, I'm kind of back to where I was in the very beginning, when I first started suggesting Wolfie is bonkers. Why in the world are so many people so blindly dedicated to this company? The ONLY THING cyberwings EVER had that other hosts didn't was a price that seemed too good to be true. And, hey, what do you know, it was. The company had no advantage in technology, certainly no advantage in customer/technical support, and a Web page that looked pretty basic (to put it nicely).

Yet, people still keep foaming about how great everything will be if (or when) the company comes back online. But what exactly will be so great about it? What makes cyberwings better than other hosts that, you know, deliver services in exchange for money?

Maybe... they are waiting for the "Second Coming" of Cyberwings? (Everybody - make sure that you are "Aligned", and that you are "coming together with the brothers and sisters of Earth" - nobody wants to have a second coming alone... nor mis-aligned.)


PS to Mods: I have a rather sarcastic wit (as if it weren't obvious from this post). However, I posted something at the end of the other Cyberwings "FYI" thread that probably overstepped the bounds of good taste, and I tried to edit it to delete it about 10 min after it was posted (I edited it once to try to tone it down, but neither way was funny, after I read it), but I couldn't, because it had gotten locked. I would like to apologize, to both the mods and "Wolfie", as it was probably an inappropriate comment to make, and not humorous at all, like I had originally intended, in my state of sleep-deprived stupor.

 

[RobsTV]

CW status newest page

"CEO-Shawn needs EVERYONE's patience, support & understanding for these LAST FINAL DAYS - He guarantees you, in his personal word, that we will have functioning servers online VERY shortly (Thurs-Sat) and that ALL ARRANGEMENTS have already been made."

15 hours left before it's Sunday.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: RobsTV
CW status newest page

"CEO-Shawn needs EVERYONE's patience, support & understanding for these LAST FINAL DAYS - He guarantees you, in his personal word, that we will have functioning servers online VERY shortly (Thurs-Sat) and that ALL ARRANGEMENTS have already been made."

15 hours left before it's Sunday.

With those words you've highlighted... it sounds like a thinly veiled suicide note... or a prophesy of the end, one of the two.

 

[MontyBurns]

Largo:

I assume you're not a reseller. Because to a reseller's clients, I assure you, "patience" like this is not a virtue. It's a reason to take your business elsewhere.

By the way, welcome to the forums! I see you joined just to defend CyberWings.

 

[largo]

Originally posted by: MontyBurns
Largo:

I assume you're not a reseller. Because to a reseller's client's, I assure you, patience is not a virtue.

By the way, welcome to the forums! I see you joined just to defend CyberWings.

Nope, not a reseller, but I fully understand about all the clients of CW's resellers. It must be hell for the resellers right now, and it's not really acceptable, but the saying "you get what you pay for" really comes into play here. CW are so darn cheap (especially during their sales) that i just don't expect anything at all from them, let alone good service. It might be that they provide excellent service once their new DC's up and running, but i don't expect it for what I paid.

As for joining to defend CW, well, I didn't. I joined a while back when there were a lot of flamers posting ridiculous things about CW when the downtime first started, but didn't really see the point in setting them straight. They wouldn't have listened anyway.

I'm not going to defend CyberWings' handling of this downtime situation. I think it stinks, and it appears that very little effort has been made to keep customers informed. I understand that some of that information might be "sensitive", and I think shawn checks with his lawyers before posting updates, but it's pretty ridiculous when even the staff are woefully uninformed.

-Largo

 

[mccall]

As requested, here are some facts:

On Monday July 15 at 2pm, in web chat, Shawn said that the "user questionnaire" would be posted within 24 - 48 hours. He also said it would be hosted on a special web site that would have "updates, ETA's, etc." and the site would be "updated hourly". He said he had an employee whose sole function would be to update that site.

On Thursday July 18, again in web chat, when questioned directly about when customers would see this questionnaire Shawn replied "very soon...I'm working on that tonight ".

It's now July 20. The CW Status site is down. There's no questionnaire. There's no special web site that's updated hourly.

 

[AirMail1]

[....................and I think shawn checks with his lawyers before posting updates, but it's pretty ridiculous when even the staff are woefully uninformed.-Largo

ROFLMAOoooooooooooooooooooooooooffffffffffffffffffffffffffff.

Shawn might check with a Ouija board before making a comment, but a 12 yr old can see that he is not filtering his remarks thru a bevy of lawyers before making a post. He is simply tossing that term around (his legal counsel etc) as another way to infer the scope and size of his monstrous organization. Anyone hear about his IPO? lol