Originally posted by: Spike
*Sigh* Bitter much?
First off
Originally posted by: trinitroDynamics
That explains it; if you are management at UPS, you are completely biased towards them. I work at UPS but am not management and would never be management, why?? Because management does not get paid as much as loaders, pickoffs, un-loaders. Why??? Because of the Teamsters Union Contract.
First off I am glad to say you are wrong there. Only the top senority drivers make more than I do and I am the LOWEST of the ranks in the IE department. It pays to have an IE degree and I'm glad I took the time to get one. Don't believe me? Well too freaking bad, I have access to payroll and know what they make, even with overtime.
BTW, if ANY driver, preloader, loader, etc... decided they wanted to get an IE degree and apply for the IE dept they would have been hired in a heartbeat over myself. The company policy is to ALWAYS hire from within if a person with the proper background is available.
You would have to be a fool to work management at UPS because you do not go anywhere in the company and they keep you in the lower management system for years (obviously where you are at NOW). At least working for the Union, you get benefits and better pay. If you do not know this, YOU do not work at UPS.
Again, wrong. I have been in management as a management trainee for what, a little over a year now? Guess what, in a month I get promoted and with that comes a modest pay increase and that HUGE bonus we get yearly. A good friend of mine was just promoted to staff manager (same level as the center's buisness/center manager) after 4 years with the company and after starting off in the same program I am in. Sounds like they are definitly holding me back :roll:
Give me a break, yes I do work at UPS. Quantity not Quality at UPS (read this carefully). If this were not true, then sites like this, Slashdot.com and others would not rant and rave about damaged packages from UPS. Just look at the title of this thread for how people feel about UPS. You are not looking at the facts because you are completely biased towards UPS, this is not bad, just admit it. In addition, I did not say anything about UPS and their delivery time, only about damaged packages. Stick to the subject. UPS insiders know about UPS and its crappy shipping, large contracts like Gateway have been lost due to this (ohh, but you know this)
I admit, I am sligthly bias, but thats because I work 50 hours a week trying to improve our service and I DIRECTLY work with some of my districts largest customers (and I believe they are considered large in a whole companies sense but I don't know that for a fact). I am almost always out in the hubs working with the part time management and the sorters, unloaders, loaders and drivers.
I'll also admit that it used to be quantity over quality but that was before we flooded and practically own the ground market. Now things are steadily progressing not just to grow the buisness, but to improve package service all around. They have created whole managment and hourly positions and groups with the entire focus on maintain customers and improving service. Soiunds like a good step to me.
Some employees at UPS -including management- have never loaded a trailer in their life. I have and I know what goes on in the trailers, where everyones packages GO. Enough said, almost.
Well gee, that would be due to that glorious union contract you just mentioned above. I CANNOT enter a trailer and move any packages except during an audit or when conducting training. Anything I do that "takes work away" from an hourly employee is something that can be grieved and we would have to pay for. This means my package moving experience is limited to peak times when I am out loading/unloading trailers/cans/package cars and am out delivering.
Furthermore, my night sort/hub was #1 in the "nation" recently and is always at the top. Stick that little nugget in your hookah and smoke it. Don't believe me, if you are management look it up, you will see where I work.
Well lets see, for that I would need your name which you did not provide or your hub which you also did not provide, so obviously I cannot check into your claim even if I did have my friends in HR run a querey.
I think this conversation is over.
Your right, it is. UPS may not have as great of a record among the nerds of the world (like those of us that post here and on slashdot) but as they are the largest package moving company obvisouly someone likes them. As I stated above, it used to be more about getting the buisness and now it's more about keeping the buisness and improving service. I see initiaves all the time where the entire goal is to increase a specific quality measurement but .5%, such as ontime deliveres. Even though we are running over 98% they still want to get that additional percetange.
Furthermore, we currently have initiatives in our hub going about how to properly load trailers to reduce damages and increase space utilization. So far this has been working as our "load quality" has gone up. Whether or not neweggs move to UPS is a good thing is still to be seen as it takes time for a new customer and us to get all the bugs worked out. hopefully it will be a great situation for all but we shall see...
-spike