not voting again this election

PoopyPants

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well im 33 years old yesterday, holloween and i find myself in the same sad dilemma i was in the last few elections , be it local state or federal.
im not voting.
why ?
simply put. these guys and groups who run our country have made me feel like there is no hope.
no matter who wins or loses we as the american middle class are the losers. they is no one anywhere in the american political system who will EVER make it easy for us, or make it be such a way that i will stand up and be proud to be an american.

i live in cedar rapids, ia, where john kerry and george bush have been having their stupid speeches and rallies every 2 weeks for the last few months. and frankly what for ? so we as the middle class and farmers and anyone making little to no money can sit back and watch them get elected and watch as yet another political candidate spews nothing but lie after lie from hie vile gut. ?

1 1/2 years ago i met a really great woman from toronto who invited me to move to canada, and we discussed alot of what would be involved and in the end because of family issues and moving away from my 12 yr old son, i decided not to.
but we sat for hours talking several times of the good and bad things of our respective countries and ill be real honest with you ladies and gentlemen, canada seems like a very good place to live and prosper.

i was explaining things such as pay, cost of living, insurance, and other things and she couldnt believe the bullshit that americans deal with. the great country of america who does nothing but ignore its own people while it spends billion of dollars overseas helping everyone else. and for what reason ? political reasons, not reasons that help out us, the american people, infact its the oposite, the spendin in the last 50 years by the american government overseas has been so much that if they had put that money, that food, that aide towards its own citizens i truly believe there wouldnt be homelessness here in america. there would nt be starving children in our streets, and at schools, i believe i would be proud to be an american. i believe there could be a good system of government driven insurance like every other country in the world.

but it isnt that way, and frankly if you want to hurl stones at me for this go ahead, but let he who is without sin,,, yada yada yada,,,
i am not proud to be an american,, the meaning of the phrase "I am an American" lost its stature decades ago, ,and now your better off NOT telling people that if your overseas. we are a dirty evil people becuase of the politicians that have been elected into office. and we as the american public are nothing more than worker ants for the american political machine. and im tired of it. im tired of waking up everyday wondering if i will be able to eat today or if i will lose my electricity. im tired of selling my pc parts to pay ever increasing prices of the cost of living.


i dont think i ever will vote until i see a candidate stand up on tv, or in a town rally, or in front of my very own eyes, and say
"i will take care of my citizens, my tired my poor, my huddled masses yearning to be free"
"you mr arab, mr, chinese mr african people european people, your troubles are your own troubls now, we want nothing to do with your troubles, i am here to take care of the american people, the children who go to school hungry or with shoes that the soles are almost gone, you the parent who is working 3 jobs to support your kids, you the unemployed who have been looking for work for months and months with nothing insite(thats me), you the rural and city people, man woman and child who have no insurance, who cant get their teeth fixed, who cant go to the dr when they are sick or when their is something wrong,
its you people that i am here to take care of,screw the rest of the world, its time america worry about america and make america a place to be proud to be!"

until i hear someone say that ,,, i dont think there will ever be a reason for me to vote.

and dont ever get me started on how other f#$% countries treat us, us who have pumped billions of dollars into their governments and economies, who have given and given while us the american people suffer, and yet those countries have the audacity to try and call us american pigs ? yeah dont ever get me started on that.
 

Infohawk

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Neither candidate is perfect but you ... there is a difference. You can look at it as the lesser of two evils... but there is still a difference.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: Hammer
so you're an isolationist then?


wanting to take care of your own people before the rest of the world doesnt make you an isolationist.

i agree with the OP. take care of our problems first, then help those who deserve it.

edit: the OP should still vote tho.
 

PoopyPants

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the lesser of 2 evils is the thing,, why,, why 2 evils,, why vote for evil ?

ya know who has been the only person whom i have ever wANTED to vote for. ?? Ross Perot, laugh if you want, but that guy ,, i mean look at who he was, what he had done with his life, he didnt give a rats butt about politicians, he told people to their faces they didnt know white about politics, that they were worthless politicians, there was just something about him that inspired me to think he could have been a good president.

but vote for the lesser of 2 evils ? never, i hate liars, politicians are natural born liars.
i feel like i am watching them old SNL skits with martin short who played that lawer,, all sweaty and nervous, jittery,, thats what i feel like im watching when i see these political rallies and debates. one guy lieing abou thte other guy who's trying to cover his ass about the last lie or truth or whatever was told about him,, its horrible.

i mean truly, where does it end, where does it get better.

i am an isolationist in the respect aht its about mother#@$%^^ time the stupid worthless american government take care of the people who have made them! US!
we the american people made thos politicians and they do to us like the french did,, they bend us over and ,,, well ,, you know...

im tired of walking around everyday wondering what line of bullpoo will i hear next,, what new law will get passed next that hurts me or my kid. or my father or my grandparents.
i want a governement that cares for its people
what was the last thing the american government ever did for the american people ?? ?? ?? i dont know,, all i know is there have been law after law passed that takes more of our money,, that benefits those who make way more money than we do,, which inturn hurts us more, puts more pressure on us to carry the weight of the stupid governments overly funded projects and wars,

be isolated hell yes, screw everyone else,, let us work on us.

its all just a lie im tired of hearing,, and why would i ever vote for a liar.,
 

PoopyPants

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and for pete's sake close the god dang borders we have enough friggin people here, the god damn illegal aliens and legal aliens are living better than i am.
 

Hammer

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Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Hammer
so you're an isolationist then?


wanting to take care of your own people before the rest of the world doesnt make you an isolationist.

i agree with the OP. take care of our problems first, then help those who deserve it.

edit: the OP should still vote tho.

Originally posted by: PoopyPants
and for pete's sake close the god dang borders we have enough friggin people here, the god damn illegal aliens and legal aliens are living better than i am.

shimsham: how about now?
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: PoopyPants
and for pete's sake close the god dang borders we have enough friggin people here, the god damn illegal aliens and legal aliens are living better than i am.

:thumbsup:



 

PoopyPants

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i sat here writing that all out and gentleman im not ashamed to say it my eyes actually started tearing up, i mean honestly, these last few years , the situations i ahve been in , financially and otherwise have truly opened my eyes to some truths about being a low end american,, it sucks, and no politician in office right now is going to fix it, and john kerry that 2 faced liar isnt going to fix it either.
and neither is that oil drilling bush..
im sad today, because tommorrow another election will come and go and we will have elected another liar, cheater and the wrong person into office. and the outlook for my future, the future for my 12 yr old son, my nearly 70 yr old father, my old grandparents isnt looking good.
 

Dissipate

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Somebody on Anandtech P&N has actually figured out how ridiculous democracy really is?! I'm amazed.

There are others who share your sentiments, poopy. In fact, they are here.
 

theshazman

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I feel what the poopy is saying. This is my first election as a naturalized citizen, and I don't feel that either party will put the good of the country above corporate interests. There is too much 'legalized' corruption in this country.

I guess poopypants has something against people living better than him, but only if they are legal aliens. I don't have that problem.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Hammer
so you're an isolationist then?


wanting to take care of your own people before the rest of the world doesnt make you an isolationist.

i agree with the OP. take care of our problems first, then help those who deserve it.

edit: the OP should still vote tho.

Originally posted by: PoopyPants
and for pete's sake close the god dang borders we have enough friggin people here, the god damn illegal aliens and legal aliens are living better than i am.

shimsham: how about now?


i agree with the sentiment of illegal aliens. trying to stop the legitamate ones is a little extreme, tho. those who wish to come legally, and the pursuit of a better life while appreciating our country, i welcome with open arms. wanting to secure your own borders doesnt make one an isolationist, but completely closing them is borderline.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: PoopyPants
and for pete's sake close the god dang borders we have enough friggin people here, the god damn illegal aliens and legal aliens are living better than i am.

:thumbsup:

Umm..the borders are not the problem. It's the incentive. If they weren't treated like kings, then thigns might change. To simply say that closing the borders will solve our problems is ignorant at best and quite shortsided. Without growth, capitalism fails to gain capital and withers and dies. The argument that almsot everyone but native americans are indeed immigrants goes to show that growth requires these immigrants.

Problem is that in the late 1800s and early 1900s they would be starving to death in a ghetto while now they are feeding off of the welfare system. Central America is currently somewhat of a hell hole due to ridiculous pverty and the incentives is what brings people here. Immigrants should contribute out the ass with taxes, but they should not be barred from living the same dream that people have for over a hundred years.
 

PoopyPants

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no i think any type of imigration needs to STOP and STOP NOW and be more controlled. let them go to canada since canada likes being the retards who lets all the terrorists in.

i have nothing wrong with imigration as a whole but its out of hand and uncontrolled.
if i was against immigration i wouldnt be here, in 1896 when my great great grandfather came over from germany if they didnt have ellis island,, well,, he, his wife, 3 sons and 2 daughters would have been turned away and either died or something.
i have a copy of a 1903 us census that shows when my great great grandparents came here. pretty interesting.
but thats not the point.
the town i lived in for 30+ yrs before i moved here was Sioux City, IA, where the town is being overrun my the mexican and asian population. people by the droves are leaving becuase of that, the mexican population is so bad in a town connected to S.C. that its nearly all mexican now. that is bad.
but i have nothing against other races or cultures, i have had mexican friends, asian friends, german, canadian, on and on. i have had countless asian girlfriends, (mm mmmm lol) i have had many asian friends call me "white guy with asian spirit" becuase of the way i am around them and their culture. but thats not the point.

i am just sick and tired of the way we as the middle class, and lower is treated, we are fuel that runs this entire god forsaken country and we are n o t h i n g to the brains who run it.
we make grow and process the food you eat, we make the cars you drive, the cloths you wear, and what do we have. ??
sickness, poverty, poor healthcare if any at all, thats me i have no healthcare. and i have a heart problem becuase i cant afford a dr. the best thing i can summarize it as is p.o.t.s. and that scares me cuz mr great g'father and 2 of his children died from heart attacks, and my grandfather now has a bad heart, and now appearently so do i,,,and a mouth full of bad teeth that will need dentures in the next few yrs. why ? cuz i have never had healthcare or not had good healthcare, and never been able to afford the friggin outrageous prices of healthcare.. but what can i do ? i can't go anywhere cuz either they want money up front, or i cant afford the bill. or they wont do any work on me at all.

shazman be honest what country did you come from ? and what did the american government give you ?

now let me make my point of aliens.
i had a close friend who was a vietnamese gentleman, he claimed to be a political refugee ,, why ? becuase the us government gave him money every month, he had been in the usa for 20 years, but ya know what, he still wasnt a citizen and still was getting money every month. and i knew MANY MANY people who were doing this and still are. and they STILL are here in america.

but i a natural born american and what do i get ? nothing,, nothing at all. i get sadness in my mind and my heart becuase america has been and still is heading down a very dangerous path, and one that i fear will end by crashing into a very ugly wall.
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Shelly21
Vote or Die!

Even if it is between a Giant douche or a Turd sandwich.

Yup, I would take a giant douche over a turn sandwich.

I think Bush was the Giant Douche and Kerry was the Turd Sandwich.
 

PoopyPants

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Even if it is between a Giant douche or a Turd sandwich.


hahahahahha yes ma'am
but if i dont do i get a spankin ? someone spank me im a naughty boy lol.. ok,, nm..
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: PoopyPants
Even if it is between a Giant douche or a Turd sandwich.


hahahahahha yes ma'am
but if i dont do i get a spankin ? someone spank me im a naughty boy lol.. ok,, nm..

if you don't you get exiled. or shot by Puff Daddy
 

PoopyPants

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speakin of puff daddy which reminds me of rap

i saw a gawl dang snoop dog vote commercial,

hahahah omg,, someone is highering pot heads for vote commercials,, i couldnt believe they got snoop sober long enough to do that spot,, although he did slur his words a little bit that was crazy,,
 

TheNinja

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I don't care if you vote or not. I'm not going to sit here and try to convince you. In fact, I hope you don't vote. The more lazy people like you who don't vote and the more people who don't care about voting, the more my vote does count for %-wise. Bush is '04!!!
 

PoopyPants

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bush '04 yeah ok,, barrrrrf

im pro kerry only for the change but still voting for him or push infact, eats at my brain and i dont like either. again back to the lesser of 2 evils.

you obviously are making alot of money cuz thats the only person who bush is helping, besides himself.
he and his sidekicks sure arent helping me, nor is his no child left behind scam,, cuz its a lie and a scam,, how about no child left behind after im done spending all the american money.
 

TheNinja

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Originally posted by: PoopyPants
bush '04 yeah ok,, barrrrrf

im pro kerry only for the change but still voting for him or push infact, eats at my brain and i dont like either. again back to the lesser of 2 evils.

you obviously are making alot of money cuz thats the only person who bush is helping, besides himself.
he and his sidekicks sure arent helping me, nor is his no child left behind scam,, cuz its a lie and a scam,, how about no child left behind after im done spending all the american money.

I can understand going through hard times and being bitter about either candidate. However I prefer Bush b/c he is a genuine man who has a core of beliefs and sticks to them. Kerry is such a huge flip flopper with no real beliefs on issues of his own. He's a pathetic excuse for a man muchless a president. Just take a friggin stand already Kerry!!! I also prefer less government and don't want the democrats turning the US into a socialist country where it won't even pay to work b/c people will make just as much if not more money/benefits just collecting unemployment and government handouts.
 
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