Note 2 drop test

Infrnl

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I suspect the Otterbox would make it ginormous.

That's an understatement, lol. I went to the AT&T store just to look at the original note to get a feel for size. It's a big phone, but the real estate and things it can do are pretty sweet IMO.

I was shocked at how well it held up In the drop test. However that guy does not drop the phones the same, so I take his words with a grain of salt. I guess we can get a general idea. All phones will shatter the screens if dropped just right. My iPhone 4 for example that everyone claims is the worst, has survived a few good drops from 3-4 ft and looks great with no signs of damage.
 

boomhower

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These are so pointless. A phone can hit a hundred different ways. On the side, corner, back, and screen will all produce vastly different results.
 

Mopetar

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These are so pointless. A phone can hit a hundred different ways. On the side, corner, back, and screen will all produce vastly different results.

Also it's only one device. Realistically, one would want to test with at last 10 different devices in order to get a good idea of how durable they all are. I don't know if they're pointless, but they're definitely not very scientific.
 

dlock13

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Also it's only one device. Realistically, one would want to test with at last 10 different devices in order to get a good idea of how durable they all are. I don't know if they're pointless, but they're definitely not very scientific.

Precisely. Now, if they were in a vacuum...
 

Mopetar

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scientific or not, thats a tough phone

After going back and watching their other video, it looks like the S3 just had worse luck as it landed on the front of the device, which is what caused it to crack. The Note 2 didn't appear to ever land like this, so it didn't have that problem. Honestly it just seems like the luck of the draw (or drop ) whether or not it's going to break.
 

lothar

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After going back and watching their other video, it looks like the S3 just had worse luck as it landed on the front of the device, which is what caused it to crack. The Note 2 didn't appear to ever land like this, so it didn't have that problem. Honestly it just seems like the luck of the draw (or drop ) whether or not it's going to break.
I have no doubt that Samsung made some design changes on the Note II after seeing the GS3 drop test videos.

Also, why are they only dropping the phone sideways?
All drop tests should be with the screen of the phone facing both upward (or) downward, horizontally. That would pretty much guarantee that the phone lands on back/battery cover (or) also the on the screen face down, and not land on the edges.
 

Mopetar

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Also, why are they only dropping the phone sideways?
All drop tests should be with the screen of the phone facing both upward (or) downward, horizontally. That would pretty much guarantee that the phone lands on back/battery cover (or) also the on the screen face down, and not land on the edges.

Probably because the phone will almost never land like that. In those natural drop tests, the device never directly lands flat. It'll almost always land mostly on the side, but it's just a matter of at what angle. Really, they should just determine how to get the phone to hit at fairly precise angles from various heights to see how it holds up.
 

lothar

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Probably because the phone will almost never land like that. In those natural drop tests, the device never directly lands flat. It'll almost always land mostly on the side, but it's just a matter of at what angle. Really, they should just determine how to get the phone to hit at fairly precise angles from various heights to see how it holds up.
That's true.
But isn't it reasonable to assume that if the phone(and the screen) survives landing face down and also face up(in case the fat bezels protect the screen when it lands face down in the prior test), then it's very likely it will survive if it lands vertically or hits the pavement on one side of it's 4 edges?

In other words, drop it in that more worse(and unrealistic) position instead of dropping it in a better(and more realistic) position that would easily more allow it to survive.
I'm not saying drop it from the empire state building, an airplane, or something but it will be nice to see how the phone performs landing both face down and face up(in case the fat bezels protech the screen), rather than landing on the sides.

Note: I should add that I'm not an engineer so I'm just making guesses.
 
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Mopetar

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That's true.
But isn't it reasonable to assume that if the phone(and the screen) survives landing face down and also face up(in case the fat bezels protect the screen when it lands face down in the prior test), then it's very likely it will survive if it lands vertically or hits the pavement on one side of it's 4 edges?

Not necessarily. It really depends on how the material transfers the impact throughout the pane. Just because it could survive a strong head-on impact, doesn't mean that it's also able to do as well when the force is applied from the side. I'd honestly have to do more research into the properties of Gorilla Glass (I think pretty much all of the devices use it or something like it at least) to find out for sure though.

Also, if it does land perfectly flat, the force of the impact would be spread out over a much wider area, which would probably mean that it wouldn't break anyways.
 

Infrnl

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I think they should do real life drops. Example, if you dropped your phone; you would most likely try to save it. This would have a different effect than what they did. I also think they should have done a good 3 drops from each height as we all know the phone will always drop differently.
I will agree that no matter how you look at it, the n2 is built tougher but their testing from this site is poor
 

Oyeve

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They should turn the phone on after a drop. How do we know it works?
 

Infrnl

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They should turn the phone on after a drop. How do we know it works?

I thought they had the phone on and stated that it still functions properly. Maybe that was on the gs3 test vs iPhone 5.
 

Zink

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The phone was booting up after the last drop. These test are fun to watch but there are too many ways for a phone to hit the ground to learn which phones are better than others from this. Gorilla glass is pretty amazing though if you haven't seen the video. It doesn't really cover the kind of impacts into the corner of a pane that often crack phones though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c.
 

boomhower

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I have no doubt that Samsung made some design changes on the Note II after seeing the GS3 drop test videos.

Yep, I'm sure Samsung made some design changes after watching some youtube videos. It saved them a lot of money from having to do any R&D themselves. I'm sure Samsung wouldn't spend any of their money doing drop tests themselves.
 

shortylickens

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Yep, I'm sure Samsung made some design changes after watching some youtube videos. It saved them a lot of money from having to do any R&D themselves. I'm sure Samsung wouldn't spend any of their money doing drop tests themselves.

I wont take the time to point out all the logical fallacies you just committed. You can look them up yourself.
 

Mopetar

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I thought they had the phone on and stated that it still functions properly. Maybe that was on the gs3 test vs iPhone 5.

Yeah, they definitely turned those on, but because of the sunlight it was pretty hard to see the screens. For all I know they could have turned on the Note 2 as well, but because of the outdoor lighting it wasn't possible to tell on the video. I kind of doubt that, but I wouldn't rule it out.

Also, I don't doubt that it still worked. The screen and touch panel are probably the most likely things to get damaged. The internals are mostly all on one board with very little in the way of moving parts or anything that would break easily.
 

robertdrumm

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A simple contraption would make drop test more accurate. we can test how well a whole car handles damage. How would a phone be any different
 

shortylickens

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A simple contraption would make drop test more accurate. we can test how well a whole car handles damage. How would a phone be any different

We could, but in the grand scheme of things people are much more concerned with how a car handles damage. Not as much incentive to invest in phone damage tests.
 

Vdubchaos

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I would never use a phone without a silicone cover/screen protector. Not a matter of if but WHEN it will be dropped.
 
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