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Three and half years since this thread started.

Twenty Five years since Columbine (which was not the first).

What has changed besides the frequency and toll of events?
 
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allisolm

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According to CNN, the toll is 4 dead, 30 wounded. Yikes!

"At least four people are believed to have been killed and approximately 30 more injured in a shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, according to law enforcement sources in the state."

An Atlanta TV channel says "Channel 2 Action News has confirmed that at least four people are dead and nine were rushed to the hospital."
 
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According to CNN, the toll is 4 dead, 30 wounded. Yikes!


"At least four people are believed to have been killed and approximately 30 more injured in a shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, according to law enforcement sources in the state."
Four Dead in Georgia.
What if you knew them and found them dead on the ground?
How could you run when you know?
 

Indus

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Of course they will.

They'll reinforce laws against suing gun manufacturers and dealers.

I think the Boomers and Millenials have so fucked up Gen Z and Alpha with trauma because of Freedumb.. there will be a reckoning..

I just don't know if it'll be this year but there's a cat 15 hurricane coming for the AR15 establishment.
 

Fenixgoon

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I think the Boomers and Millenials have so fucked up Gen Z and Alpha with trauma because of Freedumb.. there will be a reckoning..

I just don't know if it'll be this year but there's a cat 15 hurricane coming for the AR15 establishment.
I agree. I'm really curious what polling is like for 18-40 demographics (I'm at the upper end of that range)
At first I was very into and very pro guns. Now I'm very anti gun. I'd be perfectly happy to increase regulations and virtually eliminate private ownership in my benevolent dictatorship
 

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Reported to be a 14 year old. Another couple of parents that will be charged along side with their kid.
 
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APU_Fusion

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At least all these shootings show we are close to solving the problem by the obvious Republican solution of arming everyone three and older with semi-automatic weapons. /s
 
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HomerJS

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Reported to be a 14 year old. Another couple of parents that will be charged along side with their kid.
No they won't. GA doesn't have safe storage or red flag laws.

I suspect this will be a topic in next weeks debate as it should
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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I think the Boomers and Millenials have so fucked up Gen Z and Alpha with trauma because of Freedumb.. there will be a reckoning..

I just don't know if it'll be this year but there's a cat 15 hurricane coming for the AR15 establishment.
Don't wrap millennials in that bullshit, we lived through Columbine and two decades of insanity after that. We were the first victims of that shit.
 
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Dave_5k

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Three and half years since this thread started.

Twenty Five years since Columbine (which was not the first).

What has changed besides the frequency and toll of events?
The insane Republican controlled Supreme Court has repeatedly brought down rulings that guns, and only guns, have preeminent rights under the Constitution.

Edit:
Money was a close second place finisher, also having rights that supersede those of people, but that ruling pre-dates their most recent gun insanity.
In third place are corporations, with all the protections and none of the responsibilities of people, while they can't directly vote (yet), they and money are both allowed unlimited anonymous influence on elections.
 
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Dave_5k

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Don't wrap millennials in that bullshit, we lived through Columbine and two decades of insanity after that. We were the first victims of that shit.
Washington Post headline article:
More than 382,000 students have experienced gun violence at school since Columbine
There have been 416 school shootings since 1999, according to Post data

And that's only counting the students that were physically present at schools being shot up. Basically every student has been run through that trauma now directly or indirectly.

So far the only politically acceptable "solutions" in the U.S. appear to be 1) thoughts and prayers, 2) practicing school shooter drills, and 3) Kevlar-plated bullet resistant children's backpacks. Which are all collectively about exactly as effective as the 1950's duck and cover drills for a nuclear war.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Washington Post headline article:
More than 382,000 students have experienced gun violence at school since Columbine
There have been 416 school shootings since 1999, according to Post data

And that's only counting the students that were physically present at schools being shot up. Basically every student has been run through that trauma now directly or indirectly.

So far the only politically acceptable "solutions" in the U.S. appear to be 1) thoughts and prayers, 2) practicing school shooter drills, and 3) Kevlar-plated bullet resistant children's backpacks. Which are all collectively about exactly as effective as the 1950's duck and cover drills for a nuclear war.
I agree, maybe we should have lawmakers that have been in school since the wheel was invented. Might see some actual change.
 

hal2kilo

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According to CNN, the toll is 4 dead, 30 wounded. Yikes!

"At least four people are believed to have been killed and approximately 30 more injured in a shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, according to law enforcement sources in the state."

An Atlanta TV channel says "Channel 2 Action News has confirmed that at least four people are dead and nine were rushed to the hospital."
So probably an AR-15 style rifle with a big clip or multiples.
 

hal2kilo

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I think the Boomers and Millenials have so fucked up Gen Z and Alpha with trauma because of Freedumb.. there will be a reckoning..

I just don't know if it'll be this year but there's a cat 15 hurricane coming for the AR15 establishment.
I'll let you have that one on Boomers.
 

allisolm

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2 teachers and 2 students dead. 9 others in hospital. Shooter is going to be treated as an adult.
 
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