Xcobra
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How fucked up is it that my first reaction was to just sigh and didn't want to hear details about this new shooting??? I was baffled. This place is a shit hole in many aspects.
How fucked up is it that my first reaction was to just sigh and didn't want to hear details about this new shooting??? I was baffled. This place is a shit hole in many aspects.
From a safety perspective school shootings are reasonably unlikely for an individual school but obviously catastrophic in nature so controls have to be put in place to prevent them.Washington Post headline article:
More than 382,000 students have experienced gun violence at school since Columbine
There have been 416 school shootings since 1999, according to Post data
And that's only counting the students that were physically present at schools being shot up. Basically every student has been run through that trauma now directly or indirectly.
So far the only politically acceptable "solutions" in the U.S. appear to be 1) thoughts and prayers, 2) practicing school shooter drills, and 3) Kevlar-plated bullet resistant children's backpacks. Which are all collectively about exactly as effective as the 1950's duck and cover drills for a nuclear war.
How do you come to that conclusion? The parents could have done everything right, and it still could have happened. Even after the police interviewed him, they could have still done everything right, which includes getting him professional help, and it's possible it failed. It to early to know what the parents did or didn't do.Apparently the cops interviewed him last year already for threats of a school shooting. Yup definitely negligence charges for these parents
In a first world country, there'd be a mental health program available for students that raise flags like this. Pity we live in a shit hole.Apparently the cops interviewed him last year already for threats of a school shooting. Yup definitely negligence charges for these parents
I'll reserve judgement until we find out the kid got the gun from the parents 'definitely locked cabinet'.How do you come to that conclusion? The parents could have done everything right, and it still could have happened. Even after the police interviewed him, they could have still done everything right, which includes getting him professional help, and it's possible it failed. It to early to know what the parents did or didn't do.
There is not a parent in the world, who can think for their children or fully control their children's actions, as much as we wish we could. Even perfect parents have children who do wrong sometimes. As a parent, all you can do is do you best to raise them right, hold them accountable when they do something wrong, get them the professional help they need, and hope it's enough.
Sometimes, no matter what you do as a parent, it's just not enough to prevent them from doing the unthinkable.
I guess all the Gen X gun nuts get a pass?I think the Boomers and Millenials have so fucked up Gen Z and Alpha with trauma because of Freedumb.. there will be a reckoning..
I just don't know if it'll be this year but there's a cat 15 hurricane coming for the AR15 establishment.
Sure I jumped the gun. But the rest of us in the sane mostly gun free world know it’s the carefree attitude Americans have with guns that is a huge reason for these mass shootings. It’s highly unlikely to be the scenario you proposed that the parents were responsible and did everything they could have done to help their kid.How do you come to that conclusion?
I didn't think school shootings are poverty driven, otherwise I agree with you.From a safety perspective school shootings are reasonably unlikely for an individual school but obviously catastrophic in nature so controls have to be put in place to prevent them.
The obvious controls aren’t politically palatable because they would relay on gun owners taking responsibility to allow a reduction in the number of guns, decreasing poverty and increasing access to mental and regular healthcare. Fewer guns with fewer stressed people with more access to mental healthcare would drastically reduce the number of shootings.
However a not insignificant number of gun owners believe being responsible with their weapons is being armed at all times with multiple loaded weapons in every room to fend off the massive number of immigrants invading every state to rape murder and pillage. (Living in Texas means I’ve been killed 3 times this week by immigrants because I’m not armed). Also those same immigrants might get healthcare so non-starter.
Since all the rational controls are off the table the only ones left are really what we call survivability methods which are used when controls have failed (Think fire extinguisher-the fire is the hazard and it’s already happening). Those methods are things like hardening our schools and training school children to be responsible for their own safety.
Making children the ones responsible for gun safety certainly says something about our priorities.
If your kid is talking about shooting up the school, there shouldn't be guns in his house, period. Much less guns he obviously had access to. Parents put their guns in front of the safety of their son and his school.How do you come to that conclusion? The parents could have done everything right, and it still could have happened. Even after the police interviewed him, they could have still done everything right, which includes getting him professional help, and it's possible it failed. It to early to know what the parents did or didn't do.
There is not a parent in the world, who can think for their children or fully control their children's actions, as much as we wish we could. Even perfect parents have children who do wrong sometimes. As a parent, all you can do is do you best to raise them right, hold them accountable when they do something wrong, get them the professional help they need, and hope it's enough.
Sometimes, no matter what you do as a parent, it's just not enough to prevent them from doing the unthinkable.
"His father, who was also interviewed, told investigators he had hunting guns in the home but his son did not have unsupervised access to them."Apparently the cops interviewed him last year already for threats of a school shooting. Yup definitely negligence charges for these parents
Interestingly, this is the 45th school shouting this year. This means a school shooting twice a week, at least. This is week 36, I think, of the calendar.
And since you have to subtract a few weeks for summer…maybe 10 ?….and a few more for spring break, Christmas, et cetera, you’re almost at two shootings a week.
Seems school shootings happen exclusively when classes are in session.
So, that gives us an avenue to fix this problem…no more schools. Should drop taxes, esp property taxes, since no buildings, no busses, no employees with their expensive benefits.
As I figured, unsecured firearm."His father, who was also interviewed, told investigators he had hunting guns in the home but his son did not have unsupervised access to them."
Surprise, surprise! Looks like he gained access somewhere, somehow.
I know nothing about them, but is an AR-platform style a hunting gun? (I have no idea if he got the gun at home or elsewhere.)
Georgia high school shooting suspect was investigated in 2023 for online threats, authorities say
The 14-year-old gunman was interviewed in connection with threats to carry out a school shooting last year, the FBI's Atlanta field office and a local sheriff's office said.www.nbcnews.com
While the AR-platform can be used for hunting deer and other large game, it is primarily purchased as a "self-defense" platform to be ready to kill large numbers of people at a moment's notice."His father, who was also interviewed, told investigators he had hunting guns in the home but his son did not have unsupervised access to them."
Surprise, surprise! Looks like he gained access somewhere, somehow.
I know nothing about them, but is an AR-platform style a hunting gun? (I have no idea if he got the gun at home or elsewhere.)
Georgia high school shooting suspect was investigated in 2023 for online threats, authorities say
The 14-year-old gunman was interviewed in connection with threats to carry out a school shooting last year, the FBI's Atlanta field office and a local sheriff's office said.www.nbcnews.com
We aren't responsible for a lot of things, this one though, yea.
What if the Commies invade and Dude is the only one who can thwart it? Imagine how embarrassed you'd be...If your kid is talking about shooting up the school, there shouldn't be guns in his house, period. Much less guns he obviously had access to. Parents put their guns in front of the safety of their son and his school.
I could have explained that a bit more. I’ve got a pet hypothesis that a lot negative issues kids face are exacerbated by money stress. Parents, teachers and others in a kids life working long hours and concerned about making ends meet don’t have as many cognitive cycles to expend on treating kids right or catching on when they are having mental issues and then following through with treatment.I didn't think school shootings are poverty driven, otherwise I agree with you.
The country probably spends over 100B in inefficiencies every year because of our gun obsession, before we count the value of the dead. Running security screening at every event and arming and protecting LEO like they are in a war zone costs a lot of money. Every company and school that does active shooter training is a massive suck on productivity.
Dunno if it's still like this, but when I was a kiddo, being poor was also sigmatic to an extent. Lots of bullying came down on those without. Hopefully that shit has stopped.I could have explained that a bit more. I’ve got a pet hypothesis that a lot negative issues kids face are exacerbated by money stress. Parents, teachers and others in a kids life working long hours and concerned about making ends meet don’t have as many cognitive cycles to expend on treating kids right or catching on when they are having mental issues and then following through with treatment.
Basically removing some cognitive burdens will improve the chance of catching these kids before they snap.
They were really excited it was "Atlanta" so they could blame it on black people too. Guess they have to move on to false flag due to election at this point.Name of shooter: Colt Gray
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So much for the trans shooter theory by RWNJ dumdums.