AS of yet, they haven't figured out where the gun came from..If your kid is talking about shooting up the school, there shouldn't be guns in his house, period. Much less guns he obviously had access to. Parents put their guns in front of the safety of their son and his school.
really? History is full of people who have had professional help who have went on to commit murders and such.. so yea.. are you living in reality? Sorry, but even perfect parents sometimes have children that do the unthinkable.Sure I jumped the gun. But the rest of us in the sane mostly gun free world know it’s the carefree attitude Americans have with guns that is a huge reason for these mass shootings. It’s highly unlikely to be the scenario you proposed that the parents were responsible and did everything they could have done to help their kid.
What do you mean figure it out? He knows where he got it.AS of yet, they haven't figured out where the gun came from..
Sure, we can't prevent every single catastrophe. But the fact that these events are unique to America and occur with shocking repetition says that it is no "accident". There is something systemic in our country. Guns themselves, of course. But do other countries see mass-casualty incidences at the same rates we do (just with different weapons)? If not, then I'd argue that there is a unique sickness in American culture that drives people to think that this is the "acceptable" course of action.really? History is full of people who have had professional help who have went on to commit murders and such.. so yea.. are you living in reality? Sorry, but even perfect parents sometimes have children that do the unthinkable.
You can also ask yourself, why didn't the police do anything beyond interviewing the 14 year old and his dad, if the threats where concerning? Sorry to tell you, but parents aren't always to blame, for what decisions the kids make..
Okay, so on the basically zero percent chance the gun didn't come from home here, the point still applies to basically all other school shootings.AS of yet, they haven't figured out where the gun came from..
You're right, mental healthcare will not stop this, better parenting won't stop this. Those are just wish casting. The real solutions is to make it much harder or impossible for kids to gain access to tools that make murder effortless.really? History is full of people who have had professional help who have went on to commit murders and such.. so yea.. are you living in reality? Sorry, but even perfect parents sometimes have children that do the unthinkable.
You can also ask yourself, why didn't the police do anything beyond interviewing the 14 year old and his dad, if the threats where concerning? Sorry to tell you, but parents aren't always to blame, for what decisions the kids make..
Much harder to kill people with a knife than an AR-15. Also much more personal. The sickness is our gun fetish and the belief that guns are appropriate solutions for problems.Sure, we can't prevent every single catastrophe. But the fact that these events are unique to America and occur with shocking repetition says that it is no "accident". There is something systemic in our country. Guns themselves, of course. But do other countries see mass-casualty incidences at the same rates we do (just with different weapons)? If not, then I'd argue that there is a unique sickness in American culture that drives people to think that this is the "acceptable" course of action.
Hard disagree there, the firearm didn't make the kid want to do this. It enabled him, but there's something else deeply sick in our culture/species that encourages us to take actions like this.You're right, mental healthcare will not stop this, better parenting won't stop this. Those are just wish casting. The real solutions is to make it much harder or impossible for kids to gain access to tools that make murder effortless.
I'm not saying there isn't a mental health issue. I'm saying that in the real world mental healthcare alone won't prevent these events. Removing the enabling devices would. Just like removing guns doesn't end suicidal thoughts, but it does decrease the likelihood of attempting and being successful.Hard disagree there, the firearm didn't make the kid want to do this. It enabled him, but there's something else deeply sick in our culture/species that encourages us to take actions like this.
Hard disagree there, the firearm didn't make the kid want to do this. It enabled him, but there's something else deeply sick in our culture/species that encourages us to take actions like this.
Um, there are existing societies on Earth currently that seem to be handling it better than the USA? Leads me to think maybe it's not just an innate flaw in humans themselves...Personally, I think we are in many ways still unevolved apes who simply can't handle advanced weaponry as a society.
Can you imagine what it's like to NOT walk around school with a personal cell phone these days?Dunno if it's still like this, but when I was a kiddo, being poor was also sigmatic to an extent. Lots of bullying came down on those without. Hopefully that shit has stopped.
Humans are inherently evil and broken.Um, there are existing societies on Earth currently that seem to be handling it better than the USA? Leads me to think maybe it's not just an innate flaw in humans themselves...
Yes, those societies have decided that the apes can't be trusted with military weaponry, which is sorta the point.Um, there are existing societies on Earth currently that seem to be handling it better than the USA? Leads me to think maybe it's not just an innate flaw in humans themselves...
These days? No, but I've never been in school in 'these days'. We didn't have cell phones growing up.Can you imagine what it's like to NOT walk around school with a personal cell phone these days?
And an unlimited data plan?
Almost all of themUm, there are existing societies on Earth currently that seem to be handling it better than the USA? Leads me to think maybe it's not just an innate flaw in humans themselves...
Usually enforcement involves the use of guns. I'm betting apes react to ape behavior with ape thinking. Let's do more of the same. That's also one definition of insanity. The beatings won't stop until moral improves.Yes, those societies have decided that the apes can't be trusted with military weaponry, which is sorta the point.
I know Americans like to go on about "don't tread on me", but without somebody enforcing rules on the apes, they'll do ape things.
So fair enough, it's only America that is doing the "guns for all" experiment, and there are some apes enlightened enough to realize they need enforcement to keep them from their worst impulses.
I'm shocked! Like the thread title says nothing ever changes. Piece of shit gun nutter parents give mentally ill kid access to guns.AS of yet, they haven't figured out where the gun came from..