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Zorba

Lifer
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One thing not talked about yet is the response by law enforcement. The school installed a new system last week. It’s a panic button on all school staff. So kudos to the school resource officer for making the arrest in under 5 minute.
As I was saying earlier, the massive inefficiencies of having a society with guns everywhere. Autolocking doors, GPS panic buttons for every staff member, multiple police officers dedicated to one school. All of this shit costs a ton of money, and the one reason for it is the extreme lobbying and advertising abilities of the gun industry and scared little men that need a gun to feel safe.
 

Dave_5k

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As I was saying earlier, the massive inefficiencies of having a society with guns everywhere. Autolocking doors, GPS panic buttons for every staff member, multiple police officers dedicated to one school. All of this shit costs a ton of money, and the one reason for it is the extreme lobbying and advertising abilities of the gun industry and scared little men that need a gun to feel safe.
This was partially studied a decade ago as it was the primary proposal of the NRA. $13 billion per year just for the armed security at that point, and that's not counting the money wasted on physical facility upgrades nor time wasted on shooter drills. Roughly the equivalent of half of federal spending on elementary and secondary education effectively diverted by the states to pay for armed security, or more than $500/child every year that could be spent on education, instead spent on mitigating the impact of the NRA and Republicans killing off our children at the altar of their gun gods for the past 25+ years.
 

Paratus

Lifer
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As I was saying earlier, the massive inefficiencies of having a society with guns everywhere. Autolocking doors, GPS panic buttons for every staff member, multiple police officers dedicated to one school. All of this shit costs a ton of money, and the one reason for it is the extreme lobbying and advertising abilities of the gun industry and scared little men that need a gun to feel safe.
I think I estimated one time that just the cost of salaries for every school in America to do one active shooter drill a year was like half a billion dollars diverted from teaching.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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You already won because it wasn't your kid killed at school. It wasn't your husband that got killed trying to protect his classroom. I can not change gun nutters giving minors with depression guns. I sure as hell can't change teenage boys being depressed. Just be sure you kiss your guns goodnight tonight, since there are many parents that can't kiss their kids goodnight because of America's gun fetish.
I already won because I am no longer in denial that the violence in the world is the violence in me multiplied by all the billions that feel the same way but lack the self awareness to see it. Tell me, did you even have the courage to watch the entirety of the link I left? To me it was just a gift full of wisdom good only for people open to experience. It was not intended as required watching. You have a perfect right to the security of your ignorance.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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If I didn’t understand your belief in a blood toll which perpetuates blood tolls fron folk like you who happily give them to a new generation not yet infected with them, I would not comment. It’s the pain you are willing to inflict on others to satisfy your blood lust that suggests your contempt for my so called indifference to others is nothing but guilt projected. Violence is an illness, an addiction we cling to prevent self reflection and self awareness of our out of control emotional state. Everybody would know the truth if it were self flattering.
Since when is calling for protests, the same as calling for violence?

Or are you confusing topics here?
Foreign policy is over there.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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I already won because I am no longer in denial that the violence in the world is the violence in me multiplied by all the billions that feel the same way but lack the self awareness to see it. Tell me, did you even have the courage to watch the entirety of the link I left? To me it was just a gift full of wisdom good only for people open to experience. It was not intended as required watching. You have a perfect right to the security of your ignorance.
I agree that everyone has violence in them. That is why we shouldn't make tools that allow someone to kill in the fraction of a second with zero thought available to everyone without question. Guns not only make mass murder much easier, they also make killing your wife in the heat of an argument much easier. They also make taking your own life much easier. When we know that everyone is capable of violence under the right circumstances, why do we make it so easy to do?
 

Moonbeam

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Since when is calling for protests, the same as calling for violence?

Or are you confusing topics here?
Foreign policy is over there.
You are correct. I did what so many do to me, reacting to things that were not said. There is nothing wrong with protesting.

The way that I see however tells me that we have met the enemy and he is us. We protest when our system creates such damaged children they shoot their class mates but by eliminating the long standing rights of people who only have them for completely different reasons.

It seems just like saving children by eliminating the rights to abortion. The protests, in my opinion, should be against the system that churns out the mentally Ill in ever increasing numbers.
 

Moonbeam

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I agree that everyone has violence in them. That is why we shouldn't make tools that allow someone to kill in the fraction of a second with zero thought available to everyone without question. Guns not only make mass murder much easier, they also make killing your wife in the heat of an argument much easier. They also make taking your own life much easier. When we know that everyone is capable of violence under the right circumstances, why do we make it so easy to do?
I guess you did not watch the video. Everybody is violent is a generalized description of our culture, a simplification for the sake of ease of description, short for having to clarify over and over again that is what most people see. The realization that there are exceptions and that such exceptions can become the norm is not part of normal awareness, and not implying here that normal is good.

Perhaps saying that everyone is human and humans are a kind of animal that survives by fight or flight would be better, but for humans it is possible to transcend being triggered. The video is of a person who in my opinion fits that bill.

That such self mastery is an actual possibility would create a completely different perspective on things.

And of course I am not against gun regulation. I am against politely action by Democrats that would cause them to lose elections To fascists. Taking from people the billion year old instinct for self defense by passing laws against a common way to do that, to kill in response to deadly threat, is like running on a political platform to ban food. You are going to lose.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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You are correct. I did what so many do to me, reacting to things that were not said. There is nothing wrong with protesting.

The way that I see however tells me that we have met the enemy and he is us. We protest when our system creates such damaged children they shoot their class mates but by eliminating the long standing rights of people who only have them for completely different reasons.

It seems just like saving children by eliminating the rights to abortion. The protests, in my opinion, should be against the system that churns out the mentally Ill in ever increasing numbers.
Sounds like we are getting into Kaczynski territory.
 
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Dear Dad, thanks for the beautiful gun instead of helping me with my obvious psychological issues. Think I'll take it to school and blow some people away to show my appreciation, you fucking imbecile. Thanks for caring!



I would be wary of them in real life even if they had no history of violence. These two don't look like "good" people. The father looks like a demented retard and the son looks like a typical bully. Cowardly A-holes. Both should never be allowed to see the sun again. ROT IN PEACE, both of you useless waste of precious space and resources!

Their faces have it written on them, "We refuse to be reformed!".
 

Moonbeam

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I would be wary of them in real life even if they had no history of violence. These two don't look like "good" people. The father looks like a demented retard and the son looks like a typical bully. Cowardly A-holes. Both should never be allowed to see the sun again. ROT IN PEACE, both of you useless waste of precious space and resources!

Their faces have it written on them, "We refuse to be reformed!".
His Mother sounds like a peach. What I see in those pictures is despair but I know enough about the human psyche to acknowledge that what I see is projection. It makes me very sad there are so many people in that condition.

Marcee Gray, the mother of Apalachee High School shooting suspect Colt Gray, had warrants issued for her arrest for offenses committed in November 2023, including felony possession of controlled substances and using a false license plate.


Arrest warrant affidavits show Marcee Gray committed all six alleged offenses to warrant her arrest on November 6, 2023. Gray is accused of using a glass pipe for narcotics, possessing hydrochloride, fentanyl, and meth and concealing the identity of a vehicle.


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  • Felony, Schedule II controlled substance, Possession of a (sic)
  • Misdemeanor, use of license plate for purpose of concealing or misrepresenting identity of vehicle; use of expire
  • Misdemeanor, drugs in original container
  • Felony, schedule II of a controlled substance, possession of a (sic)
  • Misdemeanor, possession of a dangerous drug
  • Misdemeanor, drug related objects
Looks to me that kid was fucked sideways from breakfast.
 
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Not news to adults in the American party, but will the Ammosexuals of the (R)ussian Party who demand all inseminations, natural, consensual or otherwise result in live births even if not healthy do anything about it?


U.S. News // 6 minutes ago

Gun deaths to children, teens up in almost all states

Sept. 6, 2024 As news of yet another senseless school shooting makes headlines, a new report finds the number of children who lose their lives to injury and gun violence has risen in almost all states since 2018.
 

Dave_5k

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Days since last school shooting: 0
I guess the “good” news is we aren’t up to using school shootings per day as the metric quite yet.

Edit: Days since last school shooting in Australia, which used to have a similar gun culture but took the opposite approach to the U.S. upon seeing a mass shooting in the 1990’s: 467 days (0 deaths), I believe over 20 years since last fatality. Restricting access to guns works.
 
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Moonbeam

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The GOP has long shown their contempt for children once they've exited the womb, so no, of course they won't. This is why you need to breed extensively, so you've got some spare children. Just don't be poor, they hate that too.
What you call contempt for children in my opinion is the result of a lopsided and ignorant expression of an actually valuable principle that adults should grow up capable of caring for themselves. Conservative are infected with ignorant bigotry that the way to teach swimming is to throw those who can’t into the deep end of the pool or starvation is the way to motivate people to work.

This is what conservative parents threatened their children with catching then if they fall. Conservatives don’t value others who also need their support owing to bigotry. You can have great moral values but apply then totally wrong. I think you do the same by focus on outcome and ignoring intention. I know that just like them, you mean well.
 

Pipeline 1010

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Yes, we keep ignoring the real issue: the easy access to guns.

Yup there are over 400 million guns in America. Guns are easy to access and will be for the foreseeable future. It is a fact, and it will be extremely difficult or even impossible to change this, whether I like that fact or not. Even if we could pass a complete ban on the sale of new guns there will still be easy access for decades until existing guns break/wear out. That is assuming that parts won't be replaceable via 3D printing or some other unforeseen technological advance or legal loophole.

I see a lot of arguments about what should or should not be, but relatively little substance on how to actually change things. "Guns should be harder to access." "We should change the gun culture." "We should ban a gun that's used in like 1-2% of all murders and that will eliminate those murders because nobody who wants to use this specific type of gun could possibly figure out how to use one of the tools that are used in the other 98% of murders instead".

I think the best solutions are to change whether people want to commit murder in the first place. To research and understand why murders have massively dropped from 30 years ago despite the fact that the number of guns owned has massively increased.
 

Moonbeam

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Yup there are over 400 million guns in America. Guns are easy to access and will be for the foreseeable future. It is a fact, and it will be extremely difficult or even impossible to change this, whether I like that fact or not. Even if we could pass a complete ban on the sale of new guns there will still be easy access for decades until existing guns break/wear out. That is assuming that parts won't be replaceable via 3D printing or some other unforeseen technological advance or legal loophole.

I see a lot of arguments about what should or should not be, but relatively little substance on how to actually change things. "Guns should be harder to access." "We should change the gun culture." "We should ban a gun that's used in like 1-2% of all murders and that will eliminate those murders because nobody who wants to use this specific type of gun could possibly figure out how to use one of the tools that are used in the other 98% of murders instead".

I think the best solutions are to change whether people want to commit murder in the first place. To research and understand why murders have massively dropped from 30 years ago despite the fact that the number of guns owned has massively increased.
Nice. So much rational thinking in here in my opinion. A part of the issue in my opinion is the frustration created by injustice that leads to a kind of herd vigilantism a kind of entitlement characterist of people today, that the pain created by constant news on a regular basis that there has been another school mass shooting. The anger it evokes toward people who own guns is a mirror of the anger behind such killings. The pain of those who do such horrible things remind us of our own.

And just as the issue of gun availability is difficult to fix, so is it difficult to fix the damage we suffered that creates our anger today. But it can be fixed. The first line of business should be work on oneself and that begins with intention.
 
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