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Kev

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It would have been interesting to see if google could give correct answers to some of the jeopardy questions. I tried the final jeopardy question but all the results are about the show
 

Homerboy

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It would have been interesting to see if google could give correct answers to some of the jeopardy questions. I tried the final jeopardy question but all the results are about the show

toss -Jeopardy in your google search.
 

lupi

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The results so far don't surprise me nor does ken's response. Assuming the ibm boys where competant at loading enough data into it, I said on monday that it would come down to reaction speed at which watson is going to be greater by several magnitudes.
 

Zedtom

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If the producers and IBM decide to do this again they should let viewers make suggestions for categories. During one of the segments explaining Watson's programming they said that music can be broken down into fundamental parts but it can't be heard in an "emotional" way. I'd like to see a category of instrumental songs where they play only a brief excerpt and you must identify the song being played. Watson would run out of time trying to analyze the details.
 
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If the producers and IBM decide to do this again they should let viewers make suggestions for categories. During one of the segments explaining Watson's programming they said that music can be broken down into fundamental parts but it can't be heard in an "emotional" way. I'd like to see a category of instrumental songs where they play only a brief excerpt and you must identify the song being played. Watson would run out of time trying to analyze the details.

i remember reading of a japanese website that did exactly this, from a few years ago.
 

culture

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If the producers and IBM decide to do this again they should let viewers make suggestions for categories. During one of the segments explaining Watson's programming they said that music can be broken down into fundamental parts but it can't be heard in an "emotional" way. I'd like to see a category of instrumental songs where they play only a brief excerpt and you must identify the song being played. Watson would run out of time trying to analyze the details.

There is already software that identifies songs from short recordings called Shazam. The iPhone App sends clips over the cloud to be identified and works amazingly well. Still, IBM would probably have to work on the identification speed of to get it down to a human's speed.
 

Kev

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If the producers and IBM decide to do this again they should let viewers make suggestions for categories. During one of the segments explaining Watson's programming they said that music can be broken down into fundamental parts but it can't be heard in an "emotional" way. I'd like to see a category of instrumental songs where they play only a brief excerpt and you must identify the song being played. Watson would run out of time trying to analyze the details.

I have an iphone app that does that, I think watson can handle it!
 

Kev

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There is already software that identifies songs from short recordings called Shazam. The iPhone App sends clips over the cloud to be identified and works amazingly well. Still, IBM would probably have to work on the identification speed of to get it down to a human's speed.

stop calling it the cloud, it's the internet
 

Zedtom

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There is already software that identifies songs from short recordings called Shazam. The iPhone App sends clips over the cloud to be identified and works amazingly well. Still, IBM would probably have to work on the identification speed of to get it down to a human's speed.

Watson doesn't have internet access. He would have to drill down through his databases.
 

mcurphy

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**Warning, spoiler for today's episode

Awesome so far! Ken is doing great. I loved his comment when he got the Double Jeopardy "Well I can either unplug Watson or bet it all" lol.
 

mcurphy

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how the hell is dairy country getting the show faster than eastern standard time places? What a messed up schedule.

Interestingly enough, I am watching it on NBC out of Rockford IL. I live close enough to the state border, that my cable provider carries the network stations out of both Rockford IL and Madison WI. Madison airs it one hour later. I agree though, it is odd how varied this shows schedule is across the nation.

I really enjoyed this competition. Hopefully the folks at Jeopardy consider doing this again.
 

alrocky

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"On any given night, nearly all the contestants know nearly all the answers, so it's just a matter of who masters buzzer rhythm the best" - Ken J

Seemed obvious to me that Watson (as Ken J stated on the Washington Post link - "to cancel out Watson's big buzzer advantage") had a buzzer advantage as evidenced by the frustration on Ken's face when he was out buzzed. I understand the Watson had to activate a mechanical buzzer but it still buzzed ahead of the two humans most of the time.

A.T. explained that Watson had low confidence with it's Toronto answer since it was followed by multiple question marks. Guess those American Torontos didn't have a lot of WWII related airports.
 

juiio

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Trebek was on Regis and Kelly. He said that Watson rings in four milliseconds after it is allowed, unless he hasn't processed the question completely yet. Four milliseconds is an incredibly small window, so basically Ken and Brad only get in when Watson can't figure out the question fast enough or correctly.
 

mcmilljb

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Trebek was on Regis and Kelly. He said that Watson rings in four milliseconds after it is allowed, unless he hasn't processed the question completely yet. Four milliseconds is an incredibly small window, so basically Ken and Brad only get in when Watson can't figure out the question fast enough or correctly.

Well if you're almost always going to be beat, then you're going to have to risk it sometimes to buzz in quicker and even ignore some the answer being read so you can focus on the signal so you can buzz in.
 

spidey07

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Trebek was on Regis and Kelly. He said that Watson rings in four milliseconds after it is allowed, unless he hasn't processed the question completely yet. Four milliseconds is an incredibly small window, so basically Ken and Brad only get in when Watson can't figure out the question fast enough or correctly.

The brain can't even react that fast. The time it takes to tell your finger to push the button is longer than that.
 

MikeMike

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The brain can't even react that fast. The time it takes to tell your finger to push the button is longer than that.

except as a human, you are still able to determine when he is going to finish by the pace he is going at...

it's like drag racing, you dont click when the light turns on... you click when you predict it to... although i still think they consider anything under .01 a very good reaction time.
 

SKORPI0

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Watson would be perfect for either Wheel of Fortune or Cash Cab (or Cash Truck?) :awe:
 
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wheel of fortune is outrageously easy IMO for a computer... cash cab would just be like googling for the answer...

anything sporting windows 95 should decimate wheel of fortune - it's only fucking hangman.

spin - $100
i would like to buy a D please
____D____________________
i would like to solve the puzzle
Antidisestablishmentarianism
 
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Lemon law

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Watson is somewhat amazing. On one hand its not hard to understand that ten different servers in parallel, can hold almost all human knowledge inside of Watson.
But when Watson is maybe beating humans because it can beat the speed humans can buzz in, then it begs fair testing of that is it buzz in speed only.
 

zinfamous

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Watson is somewhat amazing. On one hand its not hard to understand that ten different servers in parallel, can hold almost all human knowledge inside of Watson.
But when Watson is maybe beating humans because it can beat the speed humans can buzz in, then it begs fair testing of that is it buzz in speed only.

again, Watson's ability to buzz in faster, or even win Jeopardy is not the point.

the only thing that matters is that Watson can so consistently answer Jeopardy-style questions correctly. No one really cares that he can beat human buzz-in speed. even the humans that he's beating don't care about that.

While it is impressive that he can compile his answers fast enough, with high enough confidence to trigger the buzz and still beat the opponents' time, the simple fact that he understands how to answer these questions is astonishing.
 
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