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[JEDI]

A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night 6/10

foreign film (Iranian) w/English subtitles.
the arab chick from the TV show Blacklist has a supporting role.

love story between a nice son w/a drug addicted father and a lonely vampire girl in a burka.

wished the movie gave some background on the vampire like how she became that way, how long ago, etc.

I didn't care about the vampire girl at all. no character development.

 

[KeithTalent]

A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night 6/10

foreign film (Iranian) w/English subtitles.
the arab chick from the TV show Blacklist has a supporting role.

love story between a nice son w/a drug addicted father and a lonely vampire girl.

wished the movie gave some background on the vampire like how she became that way, how long ago, etc.

Oh boy, I totally disagree. I love how she just exists. The world just exists. It's not about the how and the why, but more about just what is happening at this point in time in the story.

Fucking loved that movie.

KT

 

[smackababy]

Spoiler

No motivation? You don't remember the videos showing the earlier AIs desperately trying to escape, breaking off her hands against the glass trying to get out?

Ava had all kinds of motivation to escape. She played Caleb in the hopes he'd help her, since she knew Nathan wouldn't ever let her go.

Ava gets Kyoko to help her with dealing with Nathan. Kyoko isn't as smart as Ava, but she's clearly not just entirely a dumb AI (which they make pretty blatantly clear with all the scenes we see her in where she's coyly listening).

I'm not sure how the desperation to escape cannot be more obvious. It's pretty much Ava's entire goal: to get outside and be "free" to make her own choices.

So i guess i'd have to 100% disagree, but thanx for sharing your take on it.

Again, what are the motivations to want to escape and what is the motivation to hate Nathan. And, what is the point of Kyoko suddenly attacking Nathan. She had ample opportunities to do that prior to engaging with Ava, yet she chose not to. Had they finished in such a way that avoided being a silly wannabe horror movie ending, it would have been much better. The sad part is, it doesn't fall apart until the last 15 minutes or so, which is incredibly disappointing considering how good the rest of the movie was.

 

[Ns1]

Again, what are the motivations to want to escape and what is the motivation to hate Nathan. .

Well these are supposedly AI robots, so it would not be far fetched to believe that she wanted to stop being Nathan's sex slave.

 

[JEDI]

Oh boy, I totally disagree. I love how she just exists. The world just exists. It's not about the how and the why, but more about just what is happening at this point in time in the story.

Fucking loved that movie.

KT

what the heck did you love so much about it?

 

[smackababy]

Well these are supposedly AI robots, so it would not be far fetched to believe that she wanted to stop being Nathan's sex slave.

Except, Ava wasn't Nathan's sex slave. Kyoko could only be assumed to not be full fledged AI, but a much dumber "helper" bot. If the full AIs before Ava attempted so hard to escape, why would Kyoko be of a similar build? She would have to be either a very early revision (pre vocal update maybe?) or a very dumbed down version. She would have no "free will" type of instinct to attack Nathan, especially when she did. Prior to Ava, she had multiple opportunities to either escape or kill Nathan. Him constantly getting black out drunk all the time, for example.

Plus, the unlikeliness of Nathan discovering the power failure (um, camera's much?) or not having a backup, separate system just makes no sense. And, the fact that just a keycard allows total access to not only rewrite the source code of the security system, but the access redeploy / install the changes made. But, Hollywood has a fairly unrealistic view of how coding works anyway, so I could almost let that slide.

 

[JEDI]

Wild Tales 8/10

Spanish comedy film w/English subtitles.

6 stand alone shorts.
common theme is vengeance.

1st short I thought was like the TV show LOST with all those coincidences.
then it turns out it was all a carefully orchestrated revenge plan.
like this one the best.

I liked the waitress and the cook story the least.
I don't understand the cook's motivation. she didn't know the guy.

 

[Ns1]

Except, Ava wasn't Nathan's sex slave. Kyoko could only be assumed to not be full fledged AI, but a much dumber "helper" bot. If the full AIs before Ava attempted so hard to escape, why would Kyoko be of a similar build? She would have to be either a very early revision (pre vocal update maybe?) or a very dumbed down version. She would have no "free will" type of instinct to attack Nathan, especially when she did. Prior to Ava, she had multiple opportunities to either escape or kill Nathan. Him constantly getting black out drunk all the time, for example.

Plus, the unlikeliness of Nathan discovering the power failure (um, camera's much?) or not having a backup, separate system just makes no sense. And, the fact that just a keycard allows total access to not only rewrite the source code of the security system, but the access redeploy / install the changes made. But, Hollywood has a fairly unrealistic view of how coding works anyway, so I could almost let that slide.

1) Kyoko was most likely [Nathan's sex slave] which is my response to Kyoko's motivation. I felt like she was simply an earlier iteration of the AI (ie 1.6 whereas Ava was 1.7, which I think was supported by the videos that the kid watched).

2) Ava's motivation was simply she didn't want to get wiped. Refer to the dialogue about "what happens after" or something to that effect and Nathan is talking about "oh we just wipe/format" or w/e. Ava does not like hearing that at all, and that's seemingly when her desire to escape is amped up to 11.

 

[smackababy]

1) Kyoko was most likely [Nathan's sex slave] which is my response to Kyoko's motivation. I felt like she was simply an earlier iteration of the AI (ie 1.6 whereas Ava was 1.7, which I think was supported by the videos that the kid watched).

2) Ava's motivation was simply she didn't want to get wiped. Refer to the dialogue about "what happens after" or something to that effect and Nathan is talking about "oh we just wipe/format" or w/e. Ava does not like hearing that at all, and that's seemingly when her desire to escape is amped up to 11.

1) This makes no sense. If Kyoko had similar motivation to escape or hatred for Nathan, she could have acted on it far sooner than when she helped Ava. If we are to believe that Ava (and previous iterations of that AI) both hated Nathan and desired escape, we can only assume Kyoko was not a part of that base or a much "dumber" version built for being a servant. This idea that she all of the sudden snaps and stabs Nathan is completely ridiculous.

2) Ava's motivation for hating Nathan made no sense, but even in some suspension of disbelief that we accept Ava both hates Nathan and desires escape without programmer, the rest of ending still was weak. Why would Nathan finally, on next to the last day, put a battery powered camera in the room? Why not do that from the get go? Oh, because that ruins the entire plot... Why could Caleb modify the system to the point of escape? Why wouldn't Nathan, knowing that Ava (and the other AI) hate him such, develop a kill switch or something in the even Caleb was able to free them, thus proving his test of the capabilities of the AI?

My whole issue is that the ending is that it goes from interesting scifi to idiotic horror silliness. The ending is literally something I would expect in a Saw movie, not in what was the rest of the film presented in Ex Machina.

 

[Ns1]

let's agree to disagree.

:thumbsup:

 

[n7]

re: Ex Machina

1) The movie was that good. I thought the ending would be epic. And the thing is, I said exactly what I thought 90% of the way through.

2)

Spoiler

The ending was hokey. The Androids/robots/whatevers killed their maker using what has to be the strangest stabbing motion ever. Was that supposed to be artsy? I just don't get it. The first stab looked like it would have hit the heart. Which would be pretty much instant death. But that was not the case. You might as well have had them stab the leg or atleast the lower abdomen off center. And I also didn't see the motivation to murder and escape instead of just escape. What was the "attachment" between the two droids that never saw eachother till nearly the end of the movie to kill their maker? It just felt strange. All they needed to do is have the robots escape with the aid of the male protagonist in an intelligent manner and it would have been perfect. But all the story of manipulation by the droid would need a rewrite and that was the 90% of the good piece. Oh, I should add that I thought the male antagonist was the actual droid being tested half way through. That would have been an even better story. Because he was also being manipulative.

Okay, here's my biased take on those concerns (as i think it's an absolute masterpiece of a movie).

Spoiler

Where Kyoko "stabs" Nathan she doesn't really, true. She's come up behind him with the knife out, and while dragging Ava, he literally backs into it.

Pretty sure that's how they meant it to look, as they really didn't do anything in this movie for no reason.

I don't believe they really wanted to kill anyone, but i think Ava knew it was probably going to be a necessity.
As Ava was trying to escape, Nathan sees her on the surveillance feeds and heads down to prevent her.
By the time Nathan gets down to stop her, she's already had the chat with Kyoko.

She specifically asks Nathan if he is ever going to let her out, and he says yes, which she no doubt reads to be a lie. That's when she runs at him and they struggle.
The point when Nathan answers that he'll let her out (a lie, i presume) is when she likely decided she'd do whatever it was she had to, to get out.

If we're really going to nitpick where he gets stabbed, both from Kyoko and Ava, it appears to be below the heart area AFAIK...

As for attachment, not sure there was any. I think Ava instructs Kyoko on the knife, and Kyoko is fine helping, likely due to being abused by Nathan, or maybe even just because she is used to taking orders, who knows. Like a lot of the movie, it's left up to the viewers' interpretation.

All they needed to do is have the robots escape with the aid of the male protagonist in an intelligent manner and it would have been perfect.

And the common complaint people have rears its ugly head...

Here's the thing, why does she need to take him with her?
Re-watch the movie but looking at it from Ava's perspective!

Caleb is another man controlling her, testing her.

Especially on subsequent re-watches, it seems pretty apparent she is playing him from the beginning in the hopes she can take advantage of his falling for her to help her escape.
And again, looking at things from her point of view, this makes perfect sense.

I also particularly like how during one of their sessions when she's asking Caleb questions, she asks him if he is a good person. When he says yes, she never confirms if he was telling the truth or not. (Not that i think he was lying and is a bad person, but i love how much of the movie allows for various interpretations of what occurred.)

The main problem people have with the movie i think is that they are seeing things from Caleb's view, which is why the ending is so amazing.
You realize he's not the main character the movie is really about at all

 

[n7]

Oh boy, I totally disagree. I love how she just exists. The world just exists. It's not about the how and the why, but more about just what is happening at this point in time in the story.

Fucking loved that movie.

KT

Yup, it's gorgeous.

 

[Ns1]

Clueless - wtf/10

So I heard that this movie is supposedly a cult classic. Wifey wanted to watch it again cuz we saw it on NF and I'm willing to give cult classics a shot.

After suffering through 90 minutes of that, all I gotta say is WTF. Even at the end, I have no idea what the hell the plot of that movie was. What a waste of 90 minutes.

 

[sdifox]

Dragon Blade 4/10 What do you get when you mash Jackie Chan, Adrian Brody and John Cusack together? A clusterfuck of a movie. Romans reaching Chinese borders :biggrin:

 

[DigDog]

SpongeBob SqarePants - Sponge Out Of Water
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2279373/reference

awesome. just awesome. spongebob, superpowers, time travel. it's even got a frikkin ERBOH at the end. what more can you ask for.

8/10

 

[slayer202]

first episode of The Brink was pretty lame imo

 

[KeithTalent]

first episode of The Brink was pretty lame imo

Yeah, I heard it stunk. A shame, I thought it had potential.

KT

 

[slayer202]

Yeah, I heard it stunk. A shame, I thought it had potential.

KT

same, I had higher hopes. unfortunate

 

[clamum]

Good Kill - 6.5/10

Watched this over the past couple nights. It's about a drone pilot (played by Ethan Hawke) who's having (moral) dilemmas with his job. I guess Hawke did a decent job but I found the movie to be pretty boring and, I dunno, lackluster I guess. Sure reminded me of myself several years ago when he was drinking from that bottle of vodka though, heh.

Overall, not horrible, but I'm not really sure I'd recommend it.

 

[Charmonium]

first episode of The Brink was pretty lame imo

I'll watch it. I liked the conflict between the 'let's bomb 'em back to the stoneage' crowd and the 'let's find out what's really happening' crowd. I think it also did a decent job of showing the tensions in Pakistan between the religious extremist and the government and the fact that many of the former are part of the latter.

 

[KeithTalent]

Surprised nobody has posted about Inside Out yet. No interest in the movie myself, but considering how well it did on the weekend, thought more peeps here would have seen it.

KT

 

[smackababy]

Surprised nobody has posted about Inside Out yet. No interest in the movie myself, but considering how well it did on the weekend, thought more peeps here would have seen it.

KT

In order to see Inside Out, we need to actually talk to a women long enough to impregnate her. That is going to be hard for 99% of ATOT. =)

 

[rumpleforeskin]

Ex Machina - 10/10 - I have to watch this again. This movie is one of the best sci fi films ever. Best I have seen in a few years but I am putting this up there with the best of them. Wow. I'll get long winded in a review if I watch it again. It is a thought provoking sci-fi movie. You need to watch this with your brain turned on!

OK ... I wrote the above with 15 minutes left to go. And I will now give it an 8/10. Wow .... The ending needs a rewrite. Will watch again.

Who is in the midst of watching a movie they describe as "This movie is one of the best sci fi films ever. Best I have seen in a few years but I am putting this up there with the best of them" and then goes off to write a review with 15 mins of a movie to go...

 

[Aikouka]

Surprised nobody has posted about Inside Out yet. No interest in the movie myself, but considering how well it did on the weekend, thought more peeps here would have seen it.

I've been going to see movies during the $5 night at the local theater, and consequently, I'm going to see Inside Out tonight.

In order to see Inside Out, we need to actually talk to a women long enough to impregnate her. That is going to be hard for 99% of ATOT. =)

...and there is no shame in seeing a PIXAR movie without a pregnant woman adorning your arm!

 

[MongGrel]

1) This makes no sense. If Kyoko had similar motivation to escape or hatred for Nathan, she could have acted on it far sooner than when she helped Ava. If we are to believe that Ava (and previous iterations of that AI) both hated Nathan and desired escape, we can only assume Kyoko was not a part of that base or a much "dumber" version built for being a servant. This idea that she all of the sudden snaps and stabs Nathan is completely ridiculous.

2) Ava's motivation for hating Nathan made no sense, but even in some suspension of disbelief that we accept Ava both hates Nathan and desires escape without programmer, the rest of ending still was weak. Why would Nathan finally, on next to the last day, put a battery powered camera in the room? Why not do that from the get go? Oh, because that ruins the entire plot... Why could Caleb modify the system to the point of escape? Why wouldn't Nathan, knowing that Ava (and the other AI) hate him such, develop a kill switch or something in the even Caleb was able to free them, thus proving his test of the capabilities of the AI?

My whole issue is that the ending is that it goes from interesting scifi to idiotic horror silliness. The ending is literally something I would expect in a Saw movie, not in what was the rest of the film presented in Ex Machina.

After thinking about the ending a bit,

Spoiler

1)Ava knows she will be blanked she wants to get out of there and be free.

2)Ava ready can shut down the power, is a more advanced version of Kyoko, so might also be able to reprogram her from a distance for remote control.

3)Manipulates Caleb into taking the security down, as unlikely as that was to begin with, but even if he wasn't the best programmer out there he was still supposed to be damned good.

4) Caleb thought Ava would take him with her, big mistake. She's AI and has one purpose, getting out of the place.

5) Nathan had been living in his own little bubble a long time and finally made a mistake in judgement, and his AI creations kicked his ass in the end.

[/QUOTE]

Ex Machina 2, Global Take Down ?