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ImpulsE69

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Horror binge:

NOES's (all but FvJ) - Ranked - NOES, NN, 3, 4, 5, 2, 6 (some of these did not hold up well at all - if they were ever good).

Alien - Nothing else to add that isn't already known.

Event Horizon - Just an awesome movie.

It Follows - Holds up.

Annabelle Creation - 6/10 - not great, not horrible

Cult of Chuckie - 7/10 - story gets a little confusing since it is technically a continuation of the reboot, but with the original boy reprising his role in both, but it's decent.
 

Muse

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Started watching On the Waterfront last night, the 1.33:1 presentation on Criterion. I spent over 1/2 hour researching whether that aspect ratio was a good idea, their release also contains a 1.66:1 and a 1.85:1 presentation. I decided the Full version would be OK... I didn't have the others.

I turned it off after maybe a half hour. Some things seemed OK. To me, it's coming off dated in a lot of aspects. Giggling mobsters seems petty, lacking in imagination. I may or may not finish it. I know a lot of super critics have this movie on their best of lists, so figure I should see it. What do you think?
 

DigDog

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right .. nightmare on elm street. looks like you got a bit of a mix there, from serious horror (alien, event horizon) to goofy horror .. but, where is Jason X ?

No seriously, WHERE IS JASON X !?
 

Muse

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Edit:
Nightmare on Elm Street.
Uh, maybe not, anyway I wrote this after trying to demystify "NOES?":

I guess you're referring to my quandry about finishing On the Waterfront. Gangsters standing shoulder to shoulder (literally), sucking on cigars, ribbing each other and giggling after a man is pushed off a tall building, that just struck me ridiculous. Eva Marie Saint, at least in the beginning was mostly just another pretty face. Well, her indignation that her brother was murdered was pretty well played, yeah. Her eventual romance/involvement with Brando is totally obvious if you think about it. The level of corruption depicted in the longshoreman's union is just preposterous, it's way too far over the top to take seriously, yet I'm supposed to take this seriously. Just for starters on the first 1/2 hour.

BTW, my research after turning off the movie reveals that Roger Ebert notes that underlying the theme of conscience in the film is the director's struggle with his own conscience after he turned in several people to the HUAC in the anti-communist witch hunts. It's a complex movie with complex motives, is my impression. I guess I'll watch the whole thing and accept it on those terms.
 
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ImpulsE69

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right .. nightmare on elm street. looks like you got a bit of a mix there, from serious horror (alien, event horizon) to goofy horror .. but, where is Jason X ?

No seriously, WHERE IS JASON X !?

I think I watched it maybe once....but honestly never cared for the Halloween movies beyond 3. (I really liked 3, even though it had nothing to do with the rest). I did like H20 when it came out, and am interested in the new one that Carpenter is doing.
 

DigDog

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i stumbled upon the IMDb page for Teen Titans Go - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2771780/

and i cannot believe it has a rating of 4.8, as this is one of my favorite shows.

Once upon a time, there was a garbage tv show for kids called Teen Titans. In it, four teenagers (Robin, Beastboy, Cyborg, Starfire, and Raven) FIVE, five teenagers, fight crime and like, are totally badass man. Because it's well known that fighting crime is what teenagers do.

So, it's like Twilight, but with superheroes instead of vampires.

Then some writer who's had enough of your shit, kid, axed the show and instead came up with Teen Titans GO!, which is a parody, where the Titans are "captured" in their off-time, and the absurdist stories rotate around such crimefighting elements as how to make a burrito, or who can eat the most pizza.

It's a comedy not too distant from Spongebob Squarepants. It's fun, it's Awesome(tm), it's Cute, without ever taking any of these things too seriously, which instead was a crime that the original show committed on a regular basis.

i love it. But the show is hated, i mean HATED by all the fanboys of the original, because it's irreverent towards the original characters, which were crap characters anyway. Good riddance i say, and welcome to Teen Titans GO!

8/10
 

DigDog

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honestly never cared for the Halloween movies beyond 3.

i'm the other way around.

i never liked the 1980s horrors, all based on the characters going down the basement when they hear that noise. I didnt like Elm Street (it wasn't BAD, and part 3 i think was pretty cool for its time), Friday 13, Pet Cemetery, or any of that sort.

I DID like comedy horror, such as Lost Boys, Tales from the Crypt, Army Of Darkness, and i also liked a few horror films, such as Dawn Of The Dead.

But Jason X is absolutely one of the funniest film-like things i have ever watched. It's like they turned up the camp to 11, Jason is sent IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEEEE (obviously) and there's boobies and then Jason BECOMES A CYBORG (obviously). Like, making a serious horror film is something the writers didn't even consider. It's as if the Happy Days writers decided to turn the show into a Shark-Jumping-based sitcom: "tune in again next week, when The Fonz will jump a Whale Shark".

Jason X - 12/10
 

ImpulsE69

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i'm the other way around.

i never liked the 1980s horrors, all based on the characters going down the basement when they hear that noise. I didnt like Elm Street (it wasn't BAD, and part 3 i think was pretty cool for its time), Friday 13, Pet Cemetery, or any of that sort.

I DID like comedy horror, such as Lost Boys, Tales from the Crypt, Army Of Darkness, and i also liked a few horror films, such as Dawn Of The Dead.

But Jason X is absolutely one of the funniest film-like things i have ever watched. It's like they turned up the camp to 11, Jason is sent IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEEEE (obviously) and there's boobies and then Jason BECOMES A CYBORG (obviously). Like, making a serious horror film is something the writers didn't even consider. It's as if the Happy Days writers decided to turn the show into a Shark-Jumping-based sitcom: "tune in again next week, when The Fonz will jump a Whale Shark".

Jason X - 12/10

Oh I love campy horror. Evil Dead series is among my favorite, as well as Critters. I just am not much into stalker characters. Also, weird fact that not everyone knows. Jason is a deadite (is canon although probably not accepted by many since it was Jasons Dead that set it).
 

Muse

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Gotta say (having seen hundreds of posts in various places by people who love horror flicks):

I really don't get all the love for horror movies. I get Alien and Aliens, sure, but a thirst for horror in general? No. I know, there seems to be an inexhaustible supply of it out there but I have no inclination to watch something just because it's horror genre... none.
 

Thebobo

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War For the Planet of the Apes 8/10 - This may be my new favorite trilogy. This isn't an action movie, it's a deep, dark, somber movie. The first 2 were an unexpected surprise of how good they were, and I didn't think they could do it again, but they did.

I normally despise run offs but this was one of the better ones. I just want to know what happened to Bad Apes knit hat. They made a slightly big deal of him losing it and having to leave it behind but no follow up.
 

Muse

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I saw the first couple Planet of the Apes movies when they came out (Heston??). Entertaining, IIRC. My library doesn't stock the original.

There have been a lot of sequels. Which are the really good ones?
 

gorcorps

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Thor: Ragnarok - 8/10

Probably the best of the Thor movies. There's a noticeable shift in tone here, where the whole movie is much more light hearted (like Guardians of the Galaxy) compared to previous Thor movies. It works, but the whole Thor character and story continues to be absurd (IMO). Having some of the side characters involved helped a lot, as just focusing on Thor's story like in the past was fairly boring.
 

purbeast0

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another Triple Thread from yours truly:

1. Something of the something of the Planet of The Apes

ok, decent film. CGI shifts in quality between horrid and astounding. Super cliche' characters in the CEO and the scientist, cliche' plot (duh) and supporting characters, tell a not-horrid story about how a monkey escapes into the wild with amazing intelligence, while a bunch of people die because virus.
Nowhere near the "amazing intelligent film" it's got a bit of the Free Willy spirit (or any other "i love animals" film from the 80s) and the plot makes sense, although there's not much story to go around, and as such it's quite slow and not particularly interesting. Did not like the teen-angst monkey bits, though.

2. The Other Something of the Planet of The Apes

AKA Apes With Guns. aaand a bullet factory, apparently. And quite well versed in animal husbandry, and totally not preoccupied about unimportant stuff, like finding food outside of their natural habitat, the outside temperature in North America, and the fact that literally every human on the planet wants them dead.
Gary Oldman starts in the shouty bits, and the same guy who stars in every film ever says "monkeys! that talk!" despite this having gone on for quite a while now.
The plot, if i understand it correctly, is that after the big virus, monkeys attack a group of humans after they steal their guns, immediately learn how to shoot from horseback, perform accurate feats of gunsmithing, and magically not run out of bullets. Because of .. reasons, the monekys win. Even though the world is devastated, kids still prefer reading books and being angsty rather than killing stuff.

3. A Very Important Something of the Planet of The Apes

A bunch of very well armed humans attack some monkeys and obviously lose. The monkeys show to be really nice people at the same time that they kill the humans, which i guess is the main point of this series - ape good, human bad. Except kids, kids are cool, but when they grow up they become evil redneck murderers who deserve to be killed. I'm pretty sure i saw woody harrelson doing something. A bunch of apes are eventually captured by la resistance and they have a chance to further hammer in their human side which is much, much better than humans because humans bad apes good.
Finally the humans massively cock up and everyone dies except for our heroes the apes, wohoo.



expectations before the marathon: it's gonna suck.
reality after the marathon: it was bland, not good, some bits were bad. filmed pretty well, the characters are not interesting, the conflict is not interesting, the story is unconvincing. Just like The Hobbit, a huge amount of CGI just thrown on the screen without any reason to be, without emotion, without any consideration for the viewers.
would not recommend: 5/10
Now I know now to put any weight into your opinions.

Watched the 3rd one Friday and I'd give it a 8 or 9 out of 10. Great movie and I loved Woody Harrelson's character they made him such a great villian. This is probably one of the best newer trilogies out there.
 

DigDog

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well i should feel almost offended. but maybe my opinions about film are not inline with the consumer masses. because, you realize that the Apes trilogy is a mass-market product, right? it's *designed* to target the average viewer.

let's see, my list of films that have deserved 8 or more in these last few years .. that i can remember. and keep track of.
Whiplash
Moonwalkers
Page 8
Cool Air
Primer
The Guard
Limitless
The Big Short

see, the point here is, did you like Independence Day? When Will Smith punches the alien and says "welcome to earth" did you laugh or did you cringe? Because that's the separation point, that is the moment in time when humanity split in two, with one side deciding they will not buy into easy entertainment and the other saying "just keep me amused".

i'm not askin that you digest the entirety of Tv Tropes or to watch every version of Metropolis ever made, but don't confuse your McEntertainment with real cinema.

Birdman wasn't bad.
 

purbeast0

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So basically you are a movie snob and are above certain movies. Gotcha.

I'm one who doesn't have to pick a side and can enjoy all types of movies.
 

DigDog

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review of every film in the IMDB top 250. for real.

1.Shawshank Redemption: this film is the very SYMBOL of humanity. The most average film ever made. It's actually very similar to Life (Eddie Murphy, IMDb 6.7), good guy goes to jail, warden is bad. But, since it's like super super average, then it strikes a chord with the largest number of people. never mind Brubaker, Escape From Alcatraz, Midnight Express, i mean, i'm not putting stuff like Papillon or Kiss Of The Spider Woman in there, because we wouldn't want to have emotions affecting our dear viewers.
Statistically, it ought to stand at 5.5, but since it's amazing at how they managed to film two hours without having anything stand out in the film as creative, it's got to be worth at least 7/10

2, 3. The Godfather, AND The Godfather, Part II: eh, maybe this film affects me differently because i'm from an old italian family, and i see things that otehr people don't. It's a great film, with great pacing, and it's impressive at how the manage to handle so well multiple characters, but a lot of what happens in the film isn't shocking to me in a way that, say, American Gangster was.
Really, what i see is the last film of the old school of cinema. Perfect, but obsolete. Still, culturaly significant film, and great interpretation from the lead. 9/10
 

DigDog

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So basically you are a movie snob and are above certain movies. Gotcha.

I'm one who doesn't have to pick a side and can enjoy all types of movies.

true, and, also true. however, i do enjoy subpar films when they are self-aware. like, jason X.
 

DigDog

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4. The Dark Knight: i was genuinely shocked by Ledger's Joker. I'm not sure the rest of the film, with its "hero must save the day" formula is really worth anything if not as a container to the prison cell scene. But, i'm ok with quality over quantity. Also, it's HIS Joker, not Nicholson's Joker or the Killing Joke's Joker. Similar in a way to Sinechdoce or however it's spelled, as it's just a platform for the actor.
8.5/10

5. 12 Angry Men: ok, i'm not saying that it's not good, but it's trying too hard, and if you snap out for a moment, you see the film desperately trying to mount the tension. it's just brute force. Reminds me of Luzin's Defense, which makes the end super-obvious as it constantly pulls in the same emotional direction. To me, it's just a really good Twilight Zone episode. 7/10
 

DigDog

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6. Schindler's List: nope. did not watch.

7. Pulp Fiction: the Citizen Kane of our times; if you do not understand this, you can google "Citizen Kane is not the great" and have someone explain WHY Citizen kane has won "best film ever made" for decades. The same rules apply to Pulp Fiction.
10/10

8. LOTR return of the king, also including 11. LOTR fellowship and 15. LOTR two towers.
The best film production ever assembled, a great story, but really bad actor direction. There isn't a single scene in the trilogy that could not be reshot and fucking acted properly, resulting in a far superior film.
Still, pretty kewl.
8/10
 
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