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Feneant2

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Speaking of bad Netflix Films:
Extinction- 5/10 Had potential but didn't care for the twist
Titan- 4/10 This one just kind of sucks... but I'm sure y'all knew that.

You know, maybe Netflix they should concentrate a bit less on quantity and more on quality.

I also watched IT- 7/10
I'm only watching this now as I had to wait for it to come up on the movie networks and for my wife to be away so it wouldn't scare her. I liked it but there was so much more attempt at terror than horror. And while I know it's linked to the books and made to be in the 80s, they really do ignore the common issues like bullying and child abuse that are present. Maybe in those days it was expected to have a bully carve his name on you with his knife or that fathers leer at their tween daughter?
 

snoopy7548

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Speaking of bad Netflix Films:
Extinction- 5/10 Had potential but didn't care for the twist
Titan- 4/10 This one just kind of sucks... but I'm sure y'all knew that.

You know, maybe Netflix they should concentrate a bit less on quantity and more on quality.

I also watched IT- 7/10
I'm only watching this now as I had to wait for it to come up on the movie networks and for my wife to be away so it wouldn't scare her. I liked it but there was so much more attempt at terror than horror. And while I know it's linked to the books and made to be in the 80s, they really do ignore the common issues like bullying and child abuse that are present. Maybe in those days it was expected to have a bully carve his name on you with his knife or that fathers leer at their tween daughter?

At least in the book (especially during the final act), it wasn't that the adults consciously approved of bullying, the town was "cursed" with IT and caused their disregard for the children.
 

thestrangebrew1

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Life of the Party: 4/10

Had a few LOL moments, but it was pretty terrible overall. Acting was pretty bad, premise was stupid and the characters were just annoying. What's weird is my family thought it was hilarious. Does not compute...
 

MtnMan

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Netflix series production 'Dark'. Produced in Germany, but there is english audio available. Lots of twists and turns, enjoyable and I'm not sure where it is going.
 
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thedarkwolf

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Insatiable ?/10
Another Netflix original series. I've only watched two episodes so I don't want to rate it yet but it hooked me after the first. It is another show were everybody is a horrible person which is right up my alley. If you have been skimming past it because meh beauty pageants like I was give it go. Pretty twisted funny show.
 

DigDog

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I watched Paul Thomas Anderson's bowel movement Magnolia.

Ill take some time later on to explain *why* this film is not good - because it's not something you can casually just throw out in a few words - but for now let me just say i experienced physical pain as a result of watching this film.

Could be even 6/10 if taken in half-hour doses.
 

kn51

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Insatiable ?/10
Another Netflix original series. I've only watched two episodes so I don't want to rate it yet but it hooked me after the first. It is another show were everybody is a horrible person which is right up my alley. If you have been skimming past it because meh beauty pageants like I was give it go. Pretty twisted funny show.

This was something my wife started to watch and I started watching around 3-4 episodes in and at first was like "what is this trash?" but we ended up binge watching the whole season. It is quite twisted and funny. Gotta love Bob.

it's soooo much better without the dubbing!

God yes. It is the worse dub job I've ever seen.
 

clamum

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Insatiable ?/10
Another Netflix original series. I've only watched two episodes so I don't want to rate it yet but it hooked me after the first. It is another show were everybody is a horrible person which is right up my alley. If you have been skimming past it because meh beauty pageants like I was give it go. Pretty twisted funny show.
Huh. I don't think I've seen that one but I'll have to add it to my list. Thanks for the review.
 

thestrangebrew1

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I discovered last night The 100 s5 was out on Netflix so I started watching it. I binged 4 episodes last night and that show is still wtf/how/what kind of mess are they in now, but I'm pretty hooked much like the last few seasons. Looking forward to more episodes in the next few days.
 

DigDog

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So, i watched again Snowpiercer.

I might have been too hard on this film the first time around. Yes there are many unrealistic things, yes there's parts that drag on too much, and well, you've heard the story before.
The acting however is solid, and the visuals are interesting .. mostly. The ending is weak, the korean guy was inappropriate, tilda swinton is amazing.

It's a decent film. 7/10
 

zinfamous

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Seriously though just wrapping up season 3 and the dialog/writing on this show is amazing.

What's more to be said about Ian McShane? He was born for that role.

Swedgin's! dialogue is written in iambic pentameter. did you notice that?
 

zinfamous

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I watched Paul Thomas Anderson's bowel movement Magnolia.

Ill take some time later on to explain *why* this film is not good - because it's not something you can casually just throw out in a few words - but for now let me just say i experienced physical pain as a result of watching this film.

Could be even 6/10 if taken in half-hour doses.

This is a fantastic film. 10/10. I might hate you now.

I've probably watched it a few dozen times, and am never not glued to it.

I mean, you just re-watched the already-known-as-a-turd Snowpiercer, and then improved your rating? wtf, man.
 

DigDog

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wtf, man.
With all respect, i knew magnolia would be a 10/10 for you. Here is where we agree:
1. Every hand-picked actor
It's a well known fact i have sex with a lifesize SPH-shaped doll. I likewise adore Julianne Moore, who here arguably puts in her finest performance. All the way down to "i hate Illinois nazis" Gibson, everyone acting in this film is on top of his game.
2. The film is shot flawlessly; and pretty much every aspect of the production is worthy of praise.
3. Tom Cruise playing "tom cruise" is a touch of genius.
4. The deus ex of the taining frogs actually makes sense, within the context.

What i strongly oppose is the lack of a complete story within the film. If it at least had a mcguffin to tie it together, as Pulp Fiction did.

Watching Magnolia is the very equivalent of turning on the TV and what comes on is a major scene in a film. You enjoy the acting in that scene and decide to carry on watching to catch up to the rest of the plot, but before you can do so, it changes to another identical situation, and so on.
They are just a number of mini theater pieces that dont need to be linked, because unlike Pulp Fiction (who i also have sex with) they are not co-dependant.

Julianne drugs herself, rambles at her lawyer, then cuddles up to her husband, and tries to kill herself.

Tom's success depends of avoiding his emotions, but he has to face them by talking to his dad.

SPH is a nurse.

John Rilley is a cop in the wrong job.

And so on. These aren't just vignettes summarizing the plot, this *is* the plot. PTA stops at the character description without including a plot for me, the viewer, to follow, and that is something i cannot forgive because films exist for the purpose, in primis, to entertain me, and only then to show off a director's artistic skills.
I liked every performance, every shot. But Anderson forgot to tell me WHY i must watch them.
 

DigDog

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Cont.

A director has the option to deviate from the formula, but not to change the final processing stage - the audience. And the audience likes the formula.

This is why "bad" films are successful, because they in fact follow the book.
For example, look at the film bigmusclesguy:

Character: bigmusclesguy
Plot device: bigmusclesguy is really strong
Character description: a army guy who retired because he was too strong and too army.
Plot: bad guys have kidnapped bigmusclesguy's mcguffin and he must retrieve it.
Hook: (comedy) bigmusclesguy is witty.
Hook: (action) guns go boom.
Complete film: bigmusclesguy is held prisoner and his mcguffin taken; he escapes using his strong power. He finds the bad guys. He uses his army power and retrieves the mcguffin.
Crowd cheers.


You *can* deviate from this formula but, paraphrasing Hitchcock, you can't do so for the entire runtime; rather you need to remember there are human spectators who pay you that want to watch a story, a story that starts, explains itself, and then concludes with a big sign that says "and that's our story, folks".

The Master has a story, Charlie Wilson has a story, and so does Boogie Nights. Magnolia doesn't.

Film critics are unique not because they have the character trait "knows-stuff-about-film" but rather, because out of the entire audience, they are the only ones paid to be there; and they forget that the viewer wants to know what story PTA needs to tell that they need to listen to. "A slice of the human condition"? Ok but in what context?

The Deer Hunter has less of the same but what it has works as a cog in the machine of the story, the same works for Taxi Driver; while the Travis "talkin to me" scene is great, we want it carefully seated within the STORY of travis driving the taxi, then finding the girl, then imagining himself as a heroic saviour. In Magnolia, we just have two hours of "are chu talkin to me".

Im not criticizing the dialogue either, but it's apparent to me that PTA "simply" made a pastiche of various central scenes without fleshing out the rest of the stories for each, and rather than having a condensate, we have a chop job.

I understand why the critics loved this film: because they do not need to consume it.

Magnolia is like a steak dinner where there is only steak, six nice juicy delicious steaks, with no potatoes, no salad, no wine, no water, no salt, no pepper, no fork, knife or napkin. And no table to eat it on.

It's cute to watch bits of it casually but sitting through it ... no.
 
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DigDog

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Im appealing to your best judgement here, and i know i can convince you even if that means that you won't like Magnolia anymore.

Luke's binary sunset scene doesn't mean anything on its own; it acquires meaning if you first portray him as someone unhappy in his situation because he cant express his potential. He loves uncle Ben and aunt Beru, and as they are killed he is sad but the anchor that held him on Tatooine has been severed.

Magnolia has a similar arc with Cruise's character, but in reverse. He is at his potential but his father being on his deathbed means he must face normality. Or you could argue that having a relationship with is father *is* his potential.

But New Hope doesn't end at the binary sunset scene. It uses it to estabilish the character motivations which lead him to the action of rescuing Leia from the Death Star (story).
Magnolia just ends.

All of Magnolia's characters are experiencing strong emotions but at no point is explained how this is pertinent to the viewer.

To yet again use the best story ever put to film, going backwards you got the death star exploding. This means Victory and you must cheer.

As a viewer this would be boring if you had 2 hours of space fights and then Blue 4 exploads the bad guy.

But in New Hope the bad guy is exploaded by a Hero, and you love Hero.

Hero is relatable. Hero is a normal guy, in fact, Hero is YOU. NH is really the story of Zin and how he Wins(tm) by Expload(tm) the Badguy(tm).

How is he relatable, you say?

And so on. Now, Magnolia clearly isn't Star Wars. But all successful film establishes a relationship between the protagonist and the viewer, from the most basic "will i kill the dragon / rescue the princess / steal the money" to the more refined and adult such as "will i find love / can i fix this relationship / is there a meaning to life".

We can see that Magnolia firmly sets itself in the latter camp, but never seeks to provide answers.
Who am i, in this film? What is the film trying to tell me?

Magnolia doesn't answer these questions. And this is bad, because these answers are what people watch films for.

The world is divided in two kinds of people; those who watch football and come home saying "we won", and a much smaller percentage that comes home and says "they won". PTA decided that with this film, he was going to cater to the latter.

Magnolia has a strong voyeuristic aspect to itself, it goes deep into the personal, emotional space of its characters, but never gives the viewer a solid reason why we need to be watching.

I flat out do not like drama. I reject negative emotions unless these have a reason to exist, which if you think about it, is a lot more common than you'd initially expect.
The death of a beloved character is a plot device for Revenge or other plot device. Loss or humiliation can be used for a Determined character arc. Unfulfillment, craving, a special calling all serve as basis for character motivation.
But no matter how deep in emotional shit a character is, the unbreakable rule of cinema is that THE PROTAGONIST DOES SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT DO, be it escaping from an attack of killer birds, saving the arc of the covenant from nazis, rescuing a girl from a life of prostitution, or even commit an unspeakable crime.
Either that, or you must finding something extraordinarily mundane that *everyone* does, like Make Friends and Stand Up For Yourself. But not every film can be Stand By Me.

These are things that get people nodding at the screen and say either "oh yeah i do that" or "oh yeah i would totally do that".

So you see where my beef is with Magnolia: the film structure.

Now, i think the rain of frogs is actually cool and i appreciate that PTA did his best to try to streer the train instead of going for a total wreck. And it fits to have a deus ex machina since the film is written as a collection of theater piece extracts. I just don't think it's successful.
I won't say "it could have been better" because Magnolia is exactly what it set itself out to be - a film with the key element removed and replaced with more film fragments. But PTA is frightfully close to merde d'artiste territory here - a work of art that isn't meant to be consumed, a painting that isnt meant to be seen, music that is not to be heard.

Musically it reminds me of Pierrot Lunaire; if you see the score for that thing, it's a masterpiece of complex chromaticisms, but if you hear it, it's torture.

And like an absurdly complicated nouvelle cuisine dish of flowers and reduction of creamed parsnips, im asking the chef if he's going to remember what every human's eating needs, but the chef ignores me,caught up in his quest for extreme art.

Paul Thomas Anderson gave me a lot of food, but he forgot to feed me.
 

snoopy7548

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Not sure if this counts, but the official trailer for Suspiria was released yesterday. Looks absolutely crazy. 9/10.

 

thedarkwolf

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Corbin Nash 5/10
Streaming on Netflix and Amazon. The movie is a confusing mess. Jumps between flashbacks, forwards, and present making it hard to figure out WTH is going on. The one saving grace in the film and might make it worth watching is Corey Feldman's extreme over acting hamming it up cross dressing vampire character lol. He is great. If the whole movie was based around his character I'd love it.
 

Zanovar

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So, i watched again Snowpiercer.

I might have been too hard on this film the first time around. Yes there are many unrealistic things, yes there's parts that drag on too much, and well, you've heard the story before.
The acting however is solid, and the visuals are interesting .. mostly. The ending is weak, the korean guy was inappropriate, tilda swinton is amazing.

It's a decent film. 7/10

I just ate a linda mCcartney sausage,and that gunge in snowpeircer probably tasted better
 
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