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sactoking

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Warrior Nun

Wasn't sure what to expect going in. I'd heard some good things but had no exposure to the source content before. Netflix trailer looked cool.

Episode 1 started out kinda cool, in media res. Then the season really started to slog. I almost gave up several times, but it was something the wife wanted to watch as well and I didn't have anything better on my viewing plate. Last several episodes got pretty good. Season ended with me wanting it to continue.

Early on there was a fair amount of inner monologue from the main character as she developed her personality and views on the plot. It's difficult for a now-40 male to relate to the inner monologue of a late-teens/early-20s female. In my opinion the show got better when the inner monologue essentially vanished, which is around the time things changed with the love interest.

Overall - 7/10. Looking forward to next season.
 

DigDog

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Empire Strikes Back: 10/10

The best goddamn Star Wars movie hands down!
When i saw Empire back in .. uh, 1981? i guess, when it was released dubbed in my mamma papa country, at the tender age of 9yo, i didn't like it as much as i liked Star Wars.
YES BECAUSE IT WASNT FUKCING CALLED "A New Hope"

Today, i think that it's a great film, but i can see that it has some good things and some not so good - or, at least, this is my re-interpretation of my 9yo's first impression.

The in-media-res start of the film is confusing at first; i can see now that it's a strength, as it clearly marks the film as a continuation of the previous, instead of "another story in the same world". It also implies the continuation of the rebellion after the end of the first film.
Ok ok fuck let's call it Hope just so i don't have to always say "the previous film" and "the first film".

The land attack is great .. WAS great, because in 1980 we couldn't get enough of the special effects. MORE SPACESHIPS?! YES PLEASE!
But today it's just a long combat sequence that's still cool, but it's not "great filmmaking".

Luke's departure is a bit weird as well. I'm not a fan of splitting the party here because it diverts our attention. Dagobah however is great, Yoda IN THIS FILM is one of the greatest character ever put to film, his scene "he is not ready" is monumental.
(the "dark place" scene was scary AF to me at 9yo but i see it today and i cringe on how bad the lighting is)

Han going to Bespin is terrible. The asteroid belt scene is fine, but the whole Lando's betrayal thing is so badly paced, so badly directed. And i hate that Lando turns around again within the space of 5 minutes, or a single scene.

The carbonite scene is pretty cool though.

Luke's return is bad.

And i should say why.

In The Original First Film Named Star Wars Without "A New Hope" In The Title, there is a complete, well paced character arc for Luke Skywalker, the protagonist, that keeps the viewer interested throughout the film. It starts by describing Luke as a malcontent, out of place farmer on Tatooine who is caught in events larger than him. As his parents are killed by the Evil Guys we feel for him when he declares "i want to learn the ways of the force and become a Jedi like my father". *everyone liked that*
He learns about The McForce, and his role in the story - to destroy the Villain. He is initially defeated by the Villain, but through witnessing the sacrifice of the Old Mentor, he finds his confidence and uses the McForce to Win(tm).

There. Filmmaking 101.

In Empire there is no such continuous story.
Why is the empire still relevant after Tarkin is killed and the Death Star destroyed? (remember that these guys destroyed a planet just like that - there is no coming back politically fro that level of murder unless you own a giant fucking space-laser).
Why does the hero still have to fight? Did he not Win(tm) in the previous film?
Why does he still need to train to become a Jedi? He already "Used The Force" successfully to Win(tm).
How does Vader magically teleport to Bespin? I thought the Falcon was supposed to be reeeeally fast ? He instead arrives, threatens Lando, who agrees to doublecross Han, they capture the heroes and RIGHT IMMEDIATELY AWAY Lando turns around and says naw dog, i am not actually gonna betray you.
Apparently Fett manages to get all this organized before Han can navigate to Bespin.

We already know that Luke was in training, so it's not *wrong* that he goes to Dagobah, i mean, there's nothing terribly wrong with anything in the film, all those above can be excused - fairly easily, as a matter of fact - and, the film contains some epic scenes. The unusual way the script handles time is also something taht can be seen in a positive light, but, Empire fails to set up The Hero's Journey. We instead have to assume all this, and while Empire still makes a good job of implying what we need to know, it's crude in its execution.

Again, i can totally excuse this too because when you got such memorable scenes as "i am your father", you want to cram them in there, but from a purely filmwriting point of view, Hope is the superior film.

So, Luke's been away for 5 minutes and Han has managed to get himself arrested by the spacecops. He returns to bespin where he faces the Villain in a really, really great confrontation; (yes i do like this film) Vader plays with him, and we can see this, but do not expect the Reveal.
And, it's a great reveal, but again here unfortunately the film fails, and this is the worst part of Empire.

Luke flees the confrontation with the Villain, and .. the story ends.

it just fucking ends. I was 9yo and for years i was so incredibly disappointed at this stupid film that DOESNT HAVE A STORY. It starts, and they are just doing stuff. There is no secondary character to do any exposition on "here is what you must do to Win(tm)". They say "oof, we're just gonna go away for a while to do unrelated stuff to the main arc" (which doesnt even exist) and then they fail miserably at everything and when the Hero fights the Villain, .. nothing happens. There is no Win(tm). There is no conclusion, no fanfare with medals for everyone except Wookies because racism, no happy ending and sex with the princess.
WHY THE HELL DID YOU EVEN FILM THIS.

As you see, i was very wise when i was 9yo.

The Empire Strikes Back is a really good film and noteworthy of mention as one of the greatest "second film in a series", if not the g... no, no Terminator 2 sucks, greatest, but it only works as a part of a trilogy. It is really good at re-starting a story that was, by all accord, complete and ended by the end of Hope. I truly appreciate that this is really hard to do and have rarely if ever seen another "second" film do this as well, but looking at each film on their own and not as part of a trilogy, Star Wars The Not A New Hope is the best Star Wars film there is.

idk 9 or 9.5/10
 

shortylickens

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The Empire Strikes back is perfect storytelling IF you know you're in the middle of a trilogy.


Thats also why the prequels are a mess, they didnt follow the structure properly. And individually they dont stand up very well.
In fact in terms of pure story telling they're actually slightly better than the sequel trilogy because story-wise the sequels are even worse, but the prequels had some god awful dialog and and CGI that aged horribly.
 

KMFJD

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Doctor Who is. exceptional.

I absolutely love this show, i'm somewhere in the middle of season 7 now....i thought i would never like Matt Smith's doctor as much as i liked Tennant but he's grown on me a lot in the last season.
 

DigDog

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I absolutely love this show, i'm somewhere in the middle of season 7 now....i thought i would never like Matt Smith's doctor as much as i liked Tennant but he's grown on me a lot in the last season.
i did not like Smith - which, is reasonable, after you go Ecclestone -> Tennat, anyone would be disappointed with Smith - but he as an actor clearly understood that his scripts were inferior and tried to step it up as the series went on. And the last season of Smith is almost farcical, because he really puts as much effort as he can into trying to be a serious doctor, but the scripts are just raving fanboysms. In other words, Matt Smith isn't the guilty party for Matt Smith's series being bad.
Malcom Tucker's series also goes nowhere. The female Master is quite good but gets poorly used, and there is some horrible breach of canon with Simms. (or, you know, MY INTERPRETATION of canon)

Bill Potts was meh, and i truly despise Clara, because they made the show entirely about her.

I watched three episodes of Whittaker's doctor and thought it looked a lot more like an episode form The Sarah Jane Adventures, which is a Doctor Who spinoff targeted at young children - in this format there is no Doctor who, and it's instead just a bunch of "companions" who have the lead.
 

SKORPI0

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Raised by Wolves TV series (2020-) Ridley Scott Sci-Fi HBO Max Series 8/10.



Not to be confused with Eaten by Wolves w/ Gerald Ford. J/k.
 
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DigDog

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i tried watching again Pitch Black -

.. couldn't get through. But that's not a bad thing, i just felt i already knew the story too well.
What did impress me however is how evident it was that the film was made on a shoestring budget once you have seen the film several times, but when you watch it the first time it's the opposite. great characters though, not just Riddick, but everyone. Great idea too (although i figure this time that the eclipse scenario, while possible, would mean that sunset is reeeeeally long), and an all-round really well made little film.

Also, i like that here Riddick isn't as superhuman as he is in the later parts of the franchise (which includes comics, videogames, novels, tv shows..).

7.5/10 but add half a point for Riddick's character.
 

DigDog

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they have released the full traile rfor Dune 2020
Directed by Denis Villeneuve (Sicario, Arrival, Blade Runner)
It looks a bit better than the production stills did, so my current impression isn't overly negative.
I would say that:
1. the kid is probably annoying
2. the worm effects will be epic - although i am wary of bad CGI
3. the art will probably steal heavily from Lynch's film
4. the film will likely be "ok" but not as good as Lynch's

Also:
Villeneuve has stated that the 2020 film will roughly cover the first half of the novel, with a follow up covering the remaining half. He explained, "I would not agree to make this adaptation of the book with one single movie"
 
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DigDog

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HOLY SHIT

You can now rent Complex World on Amazon video: https://www.amazon.com/Complex-World-Daniel-Von-Bargen/dp/B079LLZNTP FOR ONE AMERICAN DOLLAH !!

this is one of my all-time favorite films and very, VERY difficult to find, i'm talking like, obscure even on file sharing websites.

I would strongly recommend that everyone watch this. In 1991 i was fortunate enough to catch this in the theater; the only recognizable cast member is Captain Lou Albano, but despite being acted and directed by virtually unknowns, it's a great film.

Jeff Burgess is the owner of the local rock club, the Heartbreak Hotel. He is also the son of the local Major and presidential candidate Robert Burgess. Burgess sr is a warrior from the cold war days, and has a failproof plan to win the elections: have his own son murdered. He plans to have a bomb planted in his son's club, so he can prove he can stand up to terrorists even at the cost of his own blood. The task of planting the bomb is handed to a mercenary who recruits his team from wannabe terrorists and looneys, one of which is "artist" Morris Brock.
The bomb is planted, and the mercenaries put their ransom demands to the club owner, but things do not go as planned.


The film is in color, but shot in 4:3 format (even in the theater release). It was shot with locals and actual patrons of the club, which existed until a few years ago. Local band "The Young Adults" provide the soundtrack and a portion of the plot.
This film is .. the equivalent of an amateur film, but, really well made. The script is fantastic, there's a number of memorable characters, and not a single bad performance. It's really, really a gem in the rough and i wholeheartedly recommend it to everyone, and not just in that "because filmmaking is an art" babble, but because it's a funny film that's unsual, quirky, and very, very memorable - in fact, i think i might be slightly obsessed by it. It just shocks me that a film this good is nearly unknown to everyone else.
Bonus: The Young Adults' titular song "Complex World"
(if you are in the UK and have Prime Video, you can watch it for free!!)
 

snoopy7548

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HOLY SHIT

You can now rent Complex World on Amazon video: https://www.amazon.com/Complex-World-Daniel-Von-Bargen/dp/B079LLZNTP FOR ONE AMERICAN DOLLAH !!

this is one of my all-time favorite films and very, VERY difficult to find, i'm talking like, obscure even on file sharing websites.

I would strongly recommend that everyone watch this. In 1991 i was fortunate enough to catch this in the theater; the only recognizable cast member is Captain Lou Albano, but despite being acted and directed by virtually unknowns, it's a great film.

Jeff Burgess is the owner of the local rock club, the Heartbreak Hotel. He is also the son of the local Major and presidential candidate Robert Burgess. Burgess sr is a warrior from the cold war days, and has a failproof plan to win the elections: have his own son murdered. He plans to have a bomb planted in his son's club, so he can prove he can stand up to terrorists even at the cost of his own blood. The task of planting the bomb is handed to a mercenary who recruits his team from wannabe terrorists and looneys, one of which is "artist" Morris Brock.
The bomb is planted, and the mercenaries put their ransom demands to the club owner, but things do not go as planned.


The film is in color, but shot in 4:3 format (even in the theater release). It was shot with locals and actual patrons of the club, which existed until a few years ago. Local band "The Young Adults" provide the soundtrack and a portion of the plot.
This film is .. the equivalent of an amateur film, but, really well made. The script is fantastic, there's a number of memorable characters, and not a single bad performance. It's really, really a gem in the rough and i wholeheartedly recommend it to everyone, and not just in that "because filmmaking is an art" babble, but because it's a funny film that's unsual, quirky, and very, very memorable - in fact, i think i might be slightly obsessed by it. It just shocks me that a film this good is nearly unknown to everyone else.
Bonus: The Young Adults' titular song "Complex World"
(if you are in the UK and have Prime Video, you can watch it for free!!)

Included with my Prime membership! I'll check it out, thanks.

I just upgraded my HTPC to Windows 10, and now I can use the Prime Video app, which allows you to download movies.
 

SKORPI0

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Included with my Prime membership! I'll check it out, thanks.

I just upgraded my HTPC to Windows 10, and now I can use the Prime Video app, which allows you to download movies.
Watched part of it. 1.1 GB of encrypted mp4 file that can only be viewed by the app. 4x3 at 480p.
 

DigDog

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i'm watching for the first time (didn't see any commercials for it either) The Boys, season 1.

As usual, starts great but slows down, but, pretty darn good show. I keep mistaking Carl Urban for Josh Brolin. I'm on Ep.2 , i really hope it doesn't get too bogged down in the soppyness of "intrapersonal relationships" - i'm here for the asskicking, and the bubblegum chewing.

tentative initial score of: 8/10

i'm also watching another famous tv show but instead of telling you the title, i'll name it What if Saving Private Ryan Was Ten Hours Long.

it's just .. long.
 

Nereus77

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they have released the full traile rfor Dune 2020
Directed by Denis Villeneuve (Sicario, Arrival, Blade Runner)
It looks a bit better than the production stills did, so my current impression isn't overly negative.
I would say that:
1. the kid is probably annoying
2. the worm effects will be epic - although i am wary of bad CGI
3. the art will probably steal heavily from Lynch's film
4. the film will likely be "ok" but not as good as Lynch's

Also:

Don't compare it to the Lynch film (ew), compare it to the book.
I read the book recently before any imagery for this movie came out. It seriously nailed it.
Skinny Paul? Yeah, he's a rich 15 year old.
Arrakis is looking amazing, the thopters look great!
I might have some reservations about the Sardaukar, but I'd really need to see them in action
The fremen suits look great, I'm not sure why people are calling them out.

The fact that he's splitting this great book over two movies shows he's a true Dune fan
 
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Planetary warfare, novel cultures and religions, galactic politics, gargantuan sandworms, novel far-future science & tech interspersed with complex characters and a lot of bloody conflict is far too boring to read over 500 pages....

Ignoring the science fiction part still puts it as one of the greatest novels of all time.

Ahem. Should be a decent couple movies.
 

DigDog

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Before nereus gets too chummy i need to point out that

1. Lynch's film is a masterpiece and anyone who dreams it can be outdone is a lunatic

2. i like Lynch's film. I like the stillsuits, the music by Toto, the floating baron, the gaudy Imperial Court decor; i like the horrible back-projection Navigator scene and i like the water of Caladan being teleported to Arrakis at the end.

Also, keep in mind that, despite a few angry nerds in need of validation saying otherwise, Lynch's film is actually pretty fucking spot on a recreation of the source material. And, if you are then going to re-recreate the source material, you *will* have a number of elements which look copied from the previous film.

My problem with Villeneuve is .. first, that Blade Runner 2049 sucks balls. It sucks such a quantity of various breed of animal bawls that i seriously question how anyone can NOT see it.
Sicario was ok. I know you guys masturbate to the border shootout scene but to me it was just ok.

Arrival was atrocious.
Please - a science fiction film needs to be about science fiction, not about EMOTIONS.

Dune, is not a film that needs to be remade, and of all things, Dune is not a film that needs to be remade VISUALLY. The visuals in Lynch's film are so epic and spectacular, that a director who thinks "hmm .. that film was ok, BUT THE VISUALS WERE REALLY BAD" has something wrong with his head. And VIlleneuve has until now demonstrated his scripts are really weak - and frankly, i far, far prefer Scott's Blade Runner, purely on visual style. Villeneuve's style is "let's make the sky red".

(incidentally, Paul has spent his entire life being trained in the art of war by Tufir and Gurney, if anything he would be buff, so that's wrong too)

if anything, i would have appreciated a tv series that expands on "how we got here", the Bene Gesserit's Kwizat Haderach plan of genetic breeding and of cultural seeding of planets, the creation of the empire, what the Sardauker are exactly and why it matters, the Butleran Jihad, and so on, because, while Lynch's film implies most of the answers, it still leaves many viewers puzzled and i'm tired of explaining how it's totally fine for Paul to create rain on Arrakis and everything else, like "why are they using knives".

3. A book does not have to be put to film word-per-word. I feel like Ben fucking Shapiro when i'm saying this but yes, you totally can, improve on someone else's creation. Maybe if your subject is a maniac like JRR Tolkien, that's not a great idea, but with Clarke, Herbert, Heinlein, Dick, yeah, you totally can.

i have nothing to add for now - i have spoken previously and have a strong feeling that the movie will be a poor recreation of Lynch's Dune, but targeted at people who only eat McDonalds, and it will probably do well at the theater, just like all these modern films whose visual style (Inception, Interstellar) does not require you to think, but only needs to make you go "wow".
 
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JujuFish

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if anything, i would have appreciated a tv series that expands on "how we got here", the Bene Gesserit's Kwizat Haderach plan of genetic breeding and of cultural seeding of planets, the creation of the empire, what the Sardauker are exactly and why it matters, the Butleran Jihad, and so on, because, while Lynch's film implies most of the answers, it still leaves many viewers puzzled and i'm tired of explaining how it's totally fine for Paul to create rain on Arrakis and everything else, like "why are they using knives".
Isn't that exactly what they're doing with Dune: The Sisterhood?
 

balloonshark

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Alita: Battle Angel is leaving HBO Max this month. I didn't know anything about this movie and went in with zero expectations. I was pleasantly surprised but I admit I'm a big special effects junky.


I also watched The Social Dilema on Netflix. It is a well made documentary and very topical. A must watch for everyone. It kind of explains why everything is so f'd up nowadays.

 

DigDog

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i watched:

Saving Private Ryan But It's Ten Hours Long - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185906/

gets some bonus points for being historically accurate (sort of) but otherwise not terribly interesting. Also, not sure why the washed out colors on everything.
"Watch these guy do war for 10 hours for no particular reason"

7/10 - if you are into that kinda stuff

Chronicle - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1706593/

"what if actually superheroes"
A group of kids finds a crash-landed alien artifact and shortly afterwards develop superpowers. As you would in normal life, they immediately become a bunch of dicks.
Interesting film made with very little money but with an interesting story, that can be read as a critrique to the superhero genre too.

7/10 - very little production values

The Boys S1 - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190634/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Before i watched this i made a bad leap of logic - i knew it was about superheroes - by connecting it to The Boys From Brasil and i figured it was going to be something closer to what Chronicle is; but then again, the two are not terribly distant, they both focus on superheroes being dicks because obviously, if you can fold a car with your brain, you probably won't take much day-to-day shit, like "parking tickets".
But, evil corporation wants money. Yawn.
Love the photography, great production, love all the special effects and most of the combat scenes (you guys still have a weird idea as to what does and what doesn't kill a person), i just wish they got on with the script. Too long but otherwise good.

7.5/10 - Karl urban's tough guy is the selling point but he really could do without the accent.

isn't Anthony Starr just Bradley Cooper's clone?
 

CZroe

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i watched:
...
Chronicle - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1706593/

"what if actually superheroes"
A group of kids finds a crash-landed alien artifact and shortly afterwards develop superpowers. As you would in normal life, they immediately become a bunch of dicks.
Interesting film made with very little money but with an interesting story, that can be read as a critrique to the superhero genre too.

7/10 - very little production values
Chronicle is basically American Akira done "found footage" style to get away with a low budget and a smaller scope.

Better than this, I guess:

My understanding is it really was inspired by Akira, but tweaked to avoid issues. Akira is also about what happens when you give humans more power than they can handle given their basic impulses... like giving an amoeba the destructive power of a human.

Kei - What if there were some evolutionary mistake giving something like an amoeba the power of a human?

Kaneda - Akira... is an amoeba?

Kei - ...amoebas don't build houses and bridges, right? So with that power they'd just devour all the resources around them [become "dicks"].
 
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