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zinfamous

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The villain in Die Hard was no perfect creation. He was absurdly cast as a pseudo-intellectual who talked down to everybody including his underlings. "Down to earth?" Give me a fucking break.

The whole thief posse was ridiculous. Not a semi-believable character among them. In fact everybody in the movie was a caricature. Eat all the popcorn you want.

McClane a tough guy? He couldn't even fly from NY to L.A. without throwing his lunch.

TBH I hate Shreck, can't stand it, and don't remember seeing Home Alone, OK?

Escapism isn't high on my list of priorities, TBH. Dragons? Puuulease. Sorry to stomp on your Die Hard loving good time. Deal with it.

No True American can hate DieHard!
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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No True American can hate DieHard!
I don't hate it. I own the 5 star collection 2 DVD set, have seen it about 4 times. If I hated it I wouldn't have finished watching it once. But I don't adore it and think it's just a fabulous movie or anything. It's majorly flawed, just like Ebert said. Here's his review:

Die Hard
US (1988): Action
Roger Ebert Review: 2.0 stars out of 4

131 min, Rated R, Color, Available on videocassette and laserdisc

The idea has a certain allure to it: A cop is trapped inside a high-rise with a team of desperate terrorists. He is all that stands between them and their hostages. Give the terrorist leader brains and a personality, make one of the hostages the estranged wife of the cop, and you've got a movie.

The name of the movie is DIE HARD, and it stars Bruce Willis in another one of those Hollywood action roles where the hero's shirt is ripped off in the first reel so you can see how much time he's been spending at the gym. He's a New York cop who has flown out to Los Angeles for Christmas, and we quickly learn that his marriage was put on hold after his wife (Bonnie Bedelia) left for the Coast to accept a great job offer. She is now Assistant to the President of the multinational Nakatomi Corp., and shortly before Willis makes his entrance at the office party, the terrorists strike.

They, too, are a multinational group, led by a German named Hans Gruber (Alan Rickman), who is well-dressed and has a neatly trimmed beard and talks like an intellectual and thinks he is superior to the riffraff he has to associate with. He has a plan that has been devised with clockwork precision, involving the theft of millions of dollars in negotiable bonds, and it is only after Willis starts causing trouble that he allows the situation to escalate beyond his original plans.

The terrorists are skilled and well-armed, and there are a lot of them. Willis's strategy involves keeping them off guard with lightning attacks from his hiding place, on an upper floor of the building that is still under construction. This plan involves the deployment of a great many stunts and special effects, as when Willis swings through a plate-glass window on the end of a fire hose, or when he drops plastic explosives down the elevator shaft of the building.

On a technical level, there's a lot to be said for DIE HARD. It's when we get to some of the unnecessary adornments of the script that the movie shoots itself in the foot. Willis remains in constant radio contact with a police officer on the ground (Reginald Veljohnson), who tries to keep his morale up. But then the filmmakers introduce a gratuitous and unnecessary additional character, the deputy police chief (Paul Gleason), who doubts that the guy on the other end of the radio is really a New York cop at all.

As nearly as I can tell, the deputy chief is in the movie for only one purpose: to be consistently wrong at every step of the way, and to provide a phony counterpoint to Willis's progress. The character is so willfully useless, so dumb, so much a product of the Idiot Plot Syndrome, that all by himself he successfully undermines the last half of the movie. Thrillers like this need to be well-oiled machines with not a single wasted moment. Inappropriate and wrongheaded interruptions reveal the fragile nature of the plot and prevent it from working.

Without the deputy chief and all that he represents, DIE HARD would have been a more than passable thriller. With him, it's a mess, and that's a shame, because the film does contain superior special effects, impressive stunt work and good performances, especially by Alan Rickman as the terrorist. Here's a suggestion for thriller-makers: You can't go wrong if all of the characters in your movie are at least as intelligent as most of the characters in your audience.
 

Muse

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Just got a free month of HBOMax now that it's available on Roku. What should I watch?
How did you do that? I have 3 TCL 43" Roku TV's. What I would watch with it is the Chernobyl series that used to be on Prime. AFAIK, the only place you can see it is HBO, maybe only HBOMax.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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How did you do that? I have 3 TCL 43" Roku TV's. What I would watch with it is the Chernobyl series that used to be on Prime. AFAIK, the only place you can see it is HBO, maybe only HBOMax.

Roku and Warner announced their agreement on a partnership two days ago. The HBO Max app became available today on Roku.

I just got a free month because I have AT&T wireless service and they gave me a promo code. But I think a week free trial is for anyone.
 
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Muse

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Roku and Warner announced their agreement on a partnership two days ago. The HBO Max app became available today on Roku.

I just got a free month because I have AT&T wireless service and they gave me a promo code. But I think a week free trial is for anyone.
Yeah, I was aware of that 1 week trial. Just wanna have a week where I feel free enough to binge watch that Chernobyl series.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
21,860
20,182
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The Talented Mr. Ripley - HBO Max - 7.5/10 - Haven't seen this one in a real long time. Matt Damon, Jude Law, the GOOP founder, Cate Blanchette - all when they were young. Pretty good yarn about a young man who is struggling but gets addicted to the life of a wealthy trust fund brat, and tries to make it happen for himself.
 

DigDog

Lifer
Jun 3, 2011
13,617
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The Talented Mr. Ripley - HBO Max - 7.5/10 - Haven't seen this one in a real long time. Matt Damon, Jude Law, the GOOP founder, Cate Blanchette - all when they were young. Pretty good yarn about a young man who is struggling but gets addicted to the life of a wealthy trust fund brat, and tries to make it happen for himself.
.. by murdering a whole bunch of people.

Let's not leave that out. I feel that's an important aspect of the film.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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So I watched the suggestions of @HomerJS and @PingSpike
Anna 7.5/10 and
Atomic Blond 7/10

Both were much better than AVA. Some great twists in Anna and good ones in AB
Fight scenes where choreographed pretty well. Just have to get over the fact that thin women like this cannot take as much abuse as depicted in the films.
In one scene, Theron's character would certainly have had fractured a couple of ribs, but, nah. Of course, the male spy/combat movies do the same thing at times.
Some good spy craft and great supporting characters in each. Worth a watch (and getting to watch two beautiful women is the icing on the cake).
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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The Expanse - Amazon - Season 1 - This was good stuff. The first couple episodes take some time to get going but that's completely fine, it's called setting the stage. No need to rush everything in our instant gratification society. If you like sci-fi this show is a no-brainer. I see it has its own thread on ATOT but if you haven't gone into that thread like I never did, well here ya go.
 
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shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Coming 2 America is on the way.


I bet it will suck ass.

Unrelated:
The Long Kiss Goodnight is a solid 8/10.
I hadnt seen it for a while and looking objectively its an excellent action film with plenty of good swearing. I think at the time it was not appreciated which is a shame.
 
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DigDog

Lifer
Jun 3, 2011
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@zinfamous from wikipedia, it seems that an original version of The Passion Of Joan d'Arc exists, but there is no indication if it's available anywhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_Joan_of_Arc#Rediscovery_of_original_version
Also the wiki description of the (not one but two) fires that reeeeeally wanted to destroy this film gives to understand that the later cuts were assembled from unused takes; so, it's still the same set of scenes, just not the first-choice cuts.

.. to be honest, i've been forced out of my snobbery for "director's cut OR DEATH" due to too many films being impossible to, well, determine which one is the intended version.
And then also when directors go crazy *coughbladerunner* *coughcoughstarwars*, but mostly when, you know, you are 18 and you want to watch the definitive version of Metropolis so you can brag about how much of a culture snob you are, but there's six different versions and they are all 4 hours long.

i'll be watching The Passion later.

I did watch something in between though:
Gods And Generals - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0279111/ [extended director's cut]

Starring Robert Duvall in the role of General Lee, and .. well, the only other immediately recognizable is Jeff Daniels as a miscast Col. Chamberlain, who gives an excessively long and completely out-of-place reading of a ancient-Rome speech. But every major player in the American Civil War has an actor assigned to the role: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gods_and_Generals_(film)#Cast

The film is a Period drama, focusing with some intent on the Lost Cause of states rights, and while the story is seen on both sides, it's mostly centered around the South's efforts during the initial parts of the war. The film ends in 1863 with the death of Stonewall Jackson. interesting footnote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_Jackson#cite_note-39

Now, i'm a sucker for these things. I believe that the slow, careful speech of that era, the complex articulation of phrases, makes for some great dialogue, and the southern "gentleman" accent helps it, and G&G is no exception. Out of a primary cast of 30 there is obviously a few that botch it but overall i found the dialogue to be entertaining. The recreation is average - good costumes but a bit too much reliance on 'splosions, the direction is ok, the photography is average, the score is unremarkable.

It's four and a half hours long.

It took me several days to watch the whole thing, as i put it on after work and infallably fell asleep every time (which is not bad), and had to restart or go back to the last point remembered several times. Think of it as one of those long, well crafted TV production miniseries we had in the 70s.

This is a 2003 film, but it don't look it. It absolutely could be something out of that era where with a horse and a blue uniform, you could crank out film after film after film. And i liked it for that.

It's not a film i'd recommend, but for a guy who's getting ready to hit 50, it's got a lot of nostalgia factor in a modern packaging, without the trappings of modern film. The IMDb rating is 6.4/10, i would give the film a "over 7" rating, something, say, in the region of 7.4/10, assuming one is keen on that kind of film nostalgia i described earlier - NOT a film to watch all in one sitting.


On the topic of the Lost Cause, G&G isn't blatantly racist, but it does very much tell a story from the point of view of a Confederacy who believed that they were going to war over the ideology of freedom from being told what to do, regardless of what that "what" was.
The wiki "reception" section is wildly misleading. For example "historian Steven Woodworth .. criticized the portrayal of slaves as being "generally happy" with their condition" ignoring the fact that this film doesn't show "plantation" slaves, but rather only the slaves that were the house servants of the plantation owners.
There's more, just like that... the takeaway is that, those who set out to criticize this film, are unhappy that the film depicts the ideals that the characters had, regardless of whether or not those ideals were founded on truth. Kinda like criticizing Wolf Of Wall Street for making Jordan Belfort a scammer.
 

nOOky

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Aug 17, 2004
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Watched Clara last night. The wife hated it, I sort of liked it. I was in the mood for a sci-fi movie, not a love story.
 
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