now I get LTE

jacktesterson

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I live in a tiny city *75k* and 20 mins ago I noticed my phone with Telus switched to 5 bars of LTE

Speedtest confirmer it - 26Mbps

Man is it ever faster than 4g for browsing.

Didnt know it was coming. Happy its here now!


I always thought LTE wasn't necessary. .. my views may change
 
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its the latency too! 3mbps versus 26mbps is not noticeable for just loading webpages, but the fact that it doesn't have to change the UMTS to HSDPA which can take a second or two, is a huge improvement.
 

ImDonly1

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Not interested until it comes to prepaid.
Hopefully t-mobile allows lte on their prepaid, then I might consider switching to them.
 

Eug

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Welcome to the club.

And it's not just max sequential download speed. It's reduced latency, and more consistent decent speed. On Rogers/Fido, in a lot of areas, it's just no comparison between LTE and HSPA.

I'll never go back to an HSPA or lower phone (unless I can get an iPhone 4S for $100 or so, unlocked with no contract).
 

Fire&Blood

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Not interested until it comes to prepaid.
Hopefully t-mobile allows lte on their prepaid, then I might consider switching to them.

I'm post paid but on a value plan, no subsidy. 2 lines, unlimited minutes/texting and "unlimited" data. ~$107 per month total.

LTE definitely not worth switching for at the moment. Before the %1 strikes, I'm not talking about affordability, talking about value. LTE data links are on par with wifi via decent residential services, latency and speed-wise but the power draw is still behind. Despite what some may imply, the number of suicides due to HSPA & Verizon/Sprint 3G speeds has been quite low so take the "3G is terrible claims" with a grain of salt. I've been here a while and haven't witnessed any outrages about sub LTE speeds before LTE actually arrived.
 

cardiac

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3G suits me just fine. Pageplus on Verizon network. Love it. I think 3G would still work for 75% of the folks out there....
 

jiffylube1024

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its the latency too! 3mbps versus 26mbps is not noticeable for just loading webpages, but the fact that it doesn't have to change the UMTS to HSDPA which can take a second or two, is a huge improvement.

It's massively noticeable for downloading podcasts!!! < 50 seconds for a 1.5 hr podcast vs 5 minutes sometimes!

The browsing speed is much improved too. Definitely the latency improvement greatly improves the "feel" of browsing on a mobile device.
 

Belegost

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Well let me say thank you, from all of us who work to make LTE a reality.

And for Cardiac, the difference between EVDO and LTE is comparable to the difference between dial up and cable broadband. When we do modem throughput tests we frequently see the margin of error in the test which is higher than the maximum theoretical throughput on EVDO. Much as bigstyle learned, you don't really understand the difference until you use it.

Mr. Astley, I'm not sure where you live but in my area 120 a month will get 10mbps capped broadband (I pay 60 for 6Mbps), I routinely get 20Mbps on my ATT Lumia, and both have data limits, though my broadband provider is at least just a warning message. As for power draw, the popular recent chipsets have LTE power profile similar to HSPA, and fairly close to WiFi (better under high constant traffic, or traffic with regular periodicity, WiFi has advantage for bursty traffic)

Of course value is relative, and I pay 150/month for 2 lines unlimited talk/text and shared 6GB data pool, I find the value to be acceptable, though I grumble about the data billing, its the wrong way to go about it, but that's true for all current data plans.
 

dguy6789

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Verizon's dog slow 3G??? lol.............

Sure you can't really download some huge file in a short amount of time but it's fast enough to listen to Pandora or watch YouTube or Netflix without having to wait for them to buffer lol
 

destrekor

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Sure you can't really download some huge file in a short amount of time but it's fast enough to listen to Pandora or watch YouTube or Netflix without having to wait for them to buffer lol

What the hell kind of magic have you worked to watch youtube and stream pandora on Verizon 3G without every having buffer pauses?


I can't say I have ever experienced this nirvana you describe.
 

jacktesterson

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Yeah

I use Telus Prepaid and Use Data Only

I buy 1GB of LTE Data per month for $25/mth I believe. Use Skype for all my calls. Prepaid includes voicemail and call display. I use Facebook Messenger for all my "texting" with my friends who all have smartphones - but texts are $0.10 a piece if I do use them.

I'm on Fiber Op Wifi all day at work (30 Mbps roughly) and 75 Mbps Wifi when I'm home

The city of Fredericton NB has Free 1 Mbps wifi through the entire city called "Fred-Zone". Fredericton is a technical town - with some major Tech company presence.


Even with using Skype daily - I rarely use more than 600 MB a month

That said, LTE has made browsing much faster. There are no delays waiting for Data to kick in. It's nice.


Wonder how my Note II battery life will be effected on LTE?
 

swanysto

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Sure you can't really download some huge file in a short amount of time but it's fast enough to listen to Pandora or watch YouTube or Netflix without having to wait for them to buffer lol

I agree with Pandora. I can stream that just fine on 3g. Youtube I can stream, but there are times when I have to buffer a bit. However, Netflix I cannot get to run. It buffers right out of the gate.

That being said, I agree that Verizon 3g(at least in my area) is good enough for the majority of users who surf and use non-streaming apps. I could live with out LTE, but it is certainly nice having it.
 

Red Storm

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Sure you can't really download some huge file in a short amount of time but it's fast enough to listen to Pandora or watch YouTube or Netflix without having to wait for them to buffer lol

Nope, definitely cannot do high quality Youtube streaming on 3G.
 

lothar

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Sure you can't really download some huge file in a short amount of time but it's fast enough to listen to Pandora or watch YouTube or Netflix without having to wait for them to buffer lol
Pandora? Yes.
YouTube and NetFlix? No.
 

railer

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Youtube stutters and buffers badly on its own, regardless of internet connection IMO.
 

boomhower

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I can't wait for LTE to hit. Verizon says it's here now but I beg to differ. The last couple of months data has been essentially unusable so I'm hoping it's the changeover causing the issues. Surrounding towns have it and it rocks.

Youtube stutters and buffers badly on its own, regardless of internet connection IMO.

It's something to do with the servers. There's a hack that floated around here that made to 100% better on desktops/notebooks. 1080P now plays buffer free.
 

jacktesterson

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It's something to do with the servers. There's a hack that floated around here that made to 100% better on desktops/notebooks. 1080P now plays buffer free.

go on...

Interested to know

I have 75 Mbps FiberOp Connection at home - uncapped - and Youtube 1080p buffers annoyingly all the time. Curious.
 
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