Now that the GTX 260 is the same price as the 4870...

[extra]

Kick ass! Depends on which games you play.

 

[Wreckage]

For $40 less than a 4870 I would jump on a GTX260. Nearly the same performance but with less heat and power draw. Plus you get CUDA and PhysX.

 

[LightningRider]

If you put the fan on the HD4870 to 30-40%, it fixes the temps nicely though. Also, doesn't the GTX260 use more power on load?

Also, CUDA/PhysX VS DX10.1/Havok support.

 

[natty1]

Originally posted by: zod96
And from what I've heard the GXT260 is much louder than the 4870

can anyone confirm this?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
For $40 less than a 4870 I would jump on a GTX260. Nearly the same performance but with less heat and power draw. Plus you get CUDA and PhysX.

I think the 4870 is the better card all in all, but I don't know that it's $40 better (even if it is a rebate). But I'm curious to see if AMD is going to counter with price reductions of their own. 4870 level performance for $250ish would be incredible.

 

[Janooo]

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: zod96
And from what I've heard the GXT260 is much louder than the 4870

can anyone confirm this?

Here you go.

 

[natty1]

Originally posted by: Janooo

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: zod96
And from what I've heard the GXT260 is much louder than the 4870

can anyone confirm this?

Here you go.

thanks but i was hoping for someone who actually had the cards

i've seen different reviews come to different conclusions

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: tvdang7
its after rebate

Yea you are right. I tried to spend some rebate $$ that I got off a pair of OCZ sticks, and they laughed me out of the store.

Point is you still have to shell out $300 to get the card. Some of us have been completely turned off to rebates through bad experiences. I have lost track of all the rebate deals I sent for and never received Jack in return. Sure its a nice added bonus if 3 months from now you get a $40 dollar check but its far from a certainty that you will get it.

 

[Link]

Originally posted by: lopri
Here is the hoping for a $399 GTX 280.

If and when GTX380 comes out..

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I'd still personally be leaning towards the 4870. AMD has shown over the last year that they make releasing official driver updates a priority. I can't see Havok not taking off, it has AMD and Intel behind it, it's not like when AMD was trying to push 3DNow! alone. Not to mention DX10.1 which will certainly get some support, it's not all important or anything, but no doubt that there will be games that support it and you'll be left without it with the GTX260. I doubt anyone will be unhappy with either card around $300 though.

Same, nVidia had better drivers then ATI, so i prefered them.
AMD has better drivers then nVidia so I prefer them now.

 

[RussianSensation]

In the latest games ATI card seems to be faster:

Assassin's Creed - 4AA 2560x1600
4870 = 41.8fps (31 low)
260 = 32.3fps (21 low)

GRID 4AA 1920x1200
4870 = 80fps (62 low)
260 = 59fps (47 low)

COD4 4AA 2560x1600
4870 = 44.4
260 = 42.8
(wash)

It's faster in Bioshock as well.

It's also quieter at load - Noise levels

Also note that at 8AA, ATI card destroys GTX series.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: Janooo

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: zod96
And from what I've heard the GXT260 is much louder than the 4870

can anyone confirm this?

Here you go.

thanks but i was hoping for someone who actually had the cards

i've seen different reviews come to different conclusions

Already denied this for you on the first page of this thread... Yes, I've owned both cards. Not a significant difference between the two IMO. Neither is a silent card, as high performance gear seldom is; but neither is what I would consider loud either.

Originally posted by: ZimZum

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: tvdang7
its after rebate

Yea you are right. I tried to spend some rebate $$ that I got off a pair of OCZ sticks, and they laughed me out of the store.

Point is you still have to shell out $300 to get the card. Some of us have been completely turned off to rebates through bad experiences. I have lost track of all the rebate deals I sent for and never received Jack in return. Sure its a nice added bonus if 3 months from now you get a $40 dollar check but its far from a certainty that you will get it.

Another thing to consider with rebates is that Newegg will not accept an RMA from a product with the UPC removed. Once you cut that off the box, you now have to deal with MSI, PNY, or Asus should you have an issue with the card even if you're in the first 30 days of ownership. Now, for a card from BFG or EVGA I wouldn't worry too much because they will take care of you about as quickly as Newegg would, but I'm not so sure about those other guys.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Powernick50

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Well that puts a turd in the ATi punchbowl.......! That is, until the X2 takes the single-card crown.

no, this is the only option that nvidia had. frankly, I'm surprised that they waited so long to do it. they tried to piss in amd's wheaties ( to continue with the defecatory metaphors ) with 9800gtx+ with little effect, they had to be hoping that 4870 wouldn't be quite so strong. nvidia's big problem here is that they can only hurt themselves here: amd will be able to lower prices much better than nvidia, and a huge price war will only stir up the market even more and net more sales for amd. nvidia needs to invest some of their billions in a time machine to get them to Q1 2009...

Well you are referring to an excretory process. Defecation is egestion.

Oooo..he just Egested on you! Booyakasha

rumbling even further off topic:

excretory, while undoubtedly the correct phrase, fails to adequately induce involutary "LOL's" in our beloved readers (and chizow). defecatory, however, while not actually a word, is some funny, uh, shit.

back on topic:

at $449 and $399 the gtx 260 was a stupid purchase for anyone not using step up. at $259 AR it's 50 dollars cheaper than the 4870 for 5-10% less performance. It oc's at least as well as 4870 and uses far less power at idle and similar power at load. I give the nod to gtx 260 right now at this incredibly low price even though I hate mir's with a passion.

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: nitromullet


Another thing to consider with rebates is that Newegg will not accept an RMA from a product with the UPC removed. Once you cut that off the box, you now have to deal with MSI, PNY, or Asus should you have an issue with the card even if you're in the first 30 days of ownership. Now, for a card from BFG or EVGA I wouldn't worry too much because they will take care of you about as quickly as Newegg would, but I'm not so sure about those other guys.

Wow that sux, I didnt know that. Do other Etailers have this same policy?

 

[Magusigne]

I think for me I would "consider" a GTX280 at 350$ and the 260 if it were at 230$

 

[feelingshorter]

Like many have said, the power at idle of the 4870 WILL DROP once AMD fixes the drivers to throttle it down during idle. To bad AMD didn't fix this before release as it creates confusion. I hate MIR and i always look at the prices without considering it. I've been tired of MIRs not comming in. With the prices as they are, the MSI 260 vs visiontek 4870, i'd go with the visiontek 4870 in a heart beat. In anandtech's own test, it beats the 260 all across the board except for one game and even then it was only by 2 fps or so. But looking at your posts, your definitely nvidia biased already. I've never even owned an AMD card but even i realize AMD offers unbeatable price/performance (i refuse to recognize MIR prices to be fair to both sides). The only reason the 260 is 1-2 fps higher in Crysis is because you cant play it with AA, where AMD really shines. Not to mention Crysis is programmed like crap.

 

[imported_obsidian]

Originally posted by: allies
Uhm... nvidia was OVERCHARGING. Trying to take advantage of their customers. If AMD wasn't around we'd be getting bent over left and right by nvidia.

AMD took the initiative to introduce higher performing parts for CHEAPER prices. It's a good thing nvidia isn't completely blinded by their ego and are now finally tagging along.

All companies do this. When they can increase profits they will. That's how companies survive. If you don't believe me I still have my receipt for my $660 939 4800+ X2 from 3 years ago. If a company has a superior product (which nvidia did the previous generation) then they are going to charge a premium price. Just like AMD did with their 939 X2 chips a few years ago. Now that ATI is competitive again I fully expect nvidia to continue dropping prices to be competitive, which is great.

 

[BenSkywalker]

You are confused. AMD has 2 billions more in revenue than NVDA and has more cash. The balance sheet looks bad was because of the huge NON-Recurring expense from acquiring ATI.

AMD's market cap is ~$3Billion, nV has ~$1.6-$1.7Billion in liquidity right now. I assure you I am not confused, although you seem to be.

your explanation does not explain, the game Lost Planet was first appeared on the xbox 360, you know how it ended up.

Lost Planet was multiplatform, Bioshock was a 360 exclusive until it was ported. If you don't understand the difference, not sure I could explain it to you.

For the cost, people should go look at the 8800GT reviews when ATi was bending customer's over until nVidia forced ATi's ego to lower prices and stop overcharging customers

That line of thought is so profoundly ignorant it is hard to come to terms with people thinking that being able to read and write.

 

[Leon]

AMD has 2 billions more in revenue

Quarterly or yearly? AMD did 1.5 billion (358 million net loss) in Q1 2008.