railven
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Did you also forget that Dark Souls III ran like crap on consoles as well? Particularly on Xbox One a lot of people complained of 25fps or lower. It wasn't that great on Nvidia hardware either.
Inertia is a powerful thing, and it takes time to overcome, also game development cycles are long, sometimes 3+ years long. A game like Dark Souls started their development on Nvidia but seeing how many issues they had with developing on Nvidia hardware I would be surprised if their next title is done on Nvidia.
Exactly! And Dark Souls 3 was most likely rushed to market. It probably had 2 years dev time since it came out only a year after Dark Souls 2. Dark Souls 1 and 2 used the same engine, Dark Souls 3 got the engine from Bloodborne a PS4 exclusive. You know that angle you guys are arguing that AMD having its hands in the consoles will translate to amazing results.
Yet Dark Souls 3 released terrible on PC, and even worse on Radeon cards. Where the minimum recommendations were bumped up almost two tiers above NV's.
These aren't even outliers either. And I wouldn't be surprised if the next Dark Souls uses the exact same engine.
We're already seen the proof to the contrary. BF1 will probably be the biggest game release of the year and it also appears to be developed using all the latest technologies AMD introduced.
Probably because AMD has their hand in it. So like I said, unless AMD is directly involved in it, I doubt devs/studios will go out of their way to use all the fancy features on those console "Radeons."
PC market is tiny compared to consoles. Nvidia also counts on people to not notice how poorly Kepler aged. rx480 is selling like hotcakes.. rx470 and rx460 will upgrade many people to the latest tech.
Hardware maybe, software sales not so much. Were console software sales are stagnating or dropping, PC software sales are growing. NPR is even branching out to try to start tracking digital sales. I wouldn't be surprised if PC software sales are within 20% of console software sales.
EDIT: Never in my life would I have imagine to be able to buy certain games almost day 1 on PC. Games that have historically never left the consoles. There is a huge audience for these games. Squaresoft just released a RPG on PC, the kind that would normally only see light of day on a console or handheld. Namco is probably going to bring Tekken 7 same day for PC. SFV, day 1 on PC. The newest Tales title, day 1 PC. Consoles are losing a huge chunk of their once exclusive library. The console affect might not be as strong as people think it will be when devs no longer have to use a console as the lead platform.
Polaris gives AMD the opportunity to take over the mainstream. If they manage to pull it off, than what I am saying is a foregone conclusion. I do think that Nvidia got caught off guard personally. Enthusiast community is blindsided by the 1080/1070, but 1080/1070 don't matter when it comes to install base discussions, and what hardware a developer is more likely to target.
That's the same story. "Now wait and see." I'm tired of waiting. When I buy my GPU I want to know today , not 6 months or longer down the road, it will be amazing. I don't go to review sites and go "damn look at DOOM Vulkan, wish I bought a Radeon." And "but Vulkan is the future." Future decided on one game. Really? "DX12 is the future. 2017 is right around the corner, if I put money on the list AtenRa spewed almost every other post end of 2015 I'd be broke.
Wake me up when AMD's claims and glory come into affect.
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