390 has borked numbers in there for some reason, but it still doesn't affect the overall picture.
That was one store though, he was taking those numbers from a UK store. RX 480 did sell in one day what Pascal did in a month, but NV earnt much more revenue/profit.
Now I don't expect globally it is that ratio.
But for those looking at the Steam surveys, surely you can see that the top GPUs are NOT expensive parts.
It's the 750ti, 950, 960 and 970 ($299 to $329 is vastly different to $449 to $699).
If you add up the total %, it's actually about right, 85:15, ie. 85% of the gamers do buy ~$300 and less.
Think outside of your own 1st world wealthy scenarios for a bit and know that the rest of the world, have much less disposable income than we do.
Also, why the heck are we debating whether the vast majority of the market buy cheaper GPUs? This is proven time & again throughout the history of graphics cards.
The 480 will be AMD's best selling card this year. As long as yields stay high I predict it'll even outsell the 1060. Let's check back in Jan 2017 and see how this pans out.
Well said.
As good as the 1070/1080 are they're prohibitively expensive hence the 15%.
480's are in the sweet spot given DX12/Vulcan/Asyc capabilities. Punch above their weight is the term I keep seeing thrown around and it's true. The 1060 no doubt will dominate DX11 benchmarks but DX12 w/Async the Rx480 should keep a small lead which could widen as devs get a handle on it.
Well that's a given. 480 invalidated 390/390X and makes any of the Fury flavors look overpriced.
At the current price it makes the 380/380X pointless.
There is basically only one card to recommend for AMD currently.
At the current price it makes the 380/380X pointless.
There is basically only one card to recommend for AMD currently.
Seriously? No more biased that pointing out the "captain obvious" statement that 480 will be the best selling card. Since it is the only card on 14nm, it would be a fail of colossal proportions if it were not.
I've searched this thread and neither found "China" nor "India" being mentioned here.
I think, we should step back a bit from our westerner's view and see the world as a whole without blinds. Some here discuss power consumption as would one kWh cost north of 20 cents in most parts of the world. Some see products as turds if they don't beat the leader in many or all aspects.
So it might be helpful to include different kinds of markets with their needs and determining factors in these discussions about the usefulness of products, like China and India for example. Just look at all the business AMD and others are doing there, incl. whole R&D teams, joint ventures, and production sites.
Think outside of your own 1st world wealthy scenarios for a bit and know that the rest of the world, have much less disposable income than we do.
Same is true for NV, 1070 and 1080 just made any 970/980/980Ti/R9/Fury and Titan obsolete.
RX 480 made any card from $199 to $299 (both AMD and NVIDIA) obsolete.
Only the sub $199 cards are left (from both AMD and NV) and those are going to be obsolete really soon with the launch of RX 470 and 460.
So the situation in August will be $99 to $299 14nm cards for AMD and $249 to $799 16nm cards for NV, until December. Every other 28nm card except the sub $99 market will be obsolete.
And the 1070 at the current price makes both GTX980 and GTX980TI pointless
So what? There's basically only two cards to recommend for NV currently
Why only point the obvious on the AMD side. It's biased posts like this that this forum doesn't need.
something tells me 1060 will outsell 480.
I personally don't think so, at least not unless Nvidia can find a way to get WAY more supply from TMSC. Just logically if they had the availability to match 480 supply with the 1060 it would be smarter to push that capacity towards 1070 wafers that could lead to a 970-style sales boom.
I personally think they are about to basically paper launch the 1060 to try and get people to hold off buying a 480, and weeks after "launch" it will be way easier to actually buy a 480 than a 1060 from Amazon, Newegg, etc near MSRP.
Hell Newegg still has a bunch of 970s in stock for $270-$300. There seems to huge lag between what we know we can buy from announcements and what we can actually buy in 2016.
Nope, no need. One just has to look at your posts to see it.Look in the mirror if you want to see bias.
EDIT: ie, it's obvious the 480 is going to be AMD's best seller. Now if you want to turn it into NV vs AMD, something tells me 1060 will outsell 480. Since you guys brought it up.
Nope, no need. One just has to look at your posts to see it.
I couldn't care less if it sells better than the 480 and see that's where people like you and me differ, i just care if it's actually a better performing card and i might actually buy it for my HTPC instead of getting the 480.
People here care too much how well certain corporations perform financially as if JHH getting richer will suddenly make their gaming experience that much better LOL
My third GeForce card in 20+ years of PC gaming
Odd, don't care but will post a rebuttal.
JHH is already rich. Super rich. Me making him richer is AMD's fault. Give me something to buy day1. I'm tired of the "well in 6+ months it will be faster" defense. They've had my money locked for almost a decade (throw in the ATI days outside one brief romance with GeForce 8800s, I've only owned AMD/ATI cards in my personal rig.) But they decided they didn't want it any more.
I'm tired of the "well in 6+ months it will be faster" defense.
This how easily you were influenced :biggrin:
It's a forum, get over yourself bro. We're here to discuss and not caring about corp financials doesn't mean i don't care to counter certain silly arguments i read here
Good for him, he deserves it IMO.
Now, 480 could be bought day 1, much better availability than other launches but i guess you missed that somehow. :whiste:
They already are Faster, most AAA games coming onward are DX-12/Vulkan, no need to wait
I'd rather wait for the AIBs. But I'm use to waiting with AMD lately :/
They already are Faster, most AAA games coming onward are DX-12/Vulkan, no need to wait
Nobody forced you to wait for the AIBs, reference models at MSRP prices (not FE prices) were available day 1.
Faster than what? Kepler/Maxwell? Won't be faster than GTX 1080/1070 that are running in enthusiast PCs before Polaris even got to the market, maybe a few % faster than GTX 1060 in their Gaming Evolved titles (still slower overall), but let's see the impact of this in actual sales.