NSA leaker has come forward: Idiot has fled the U.S

[AreaCode707]

If Obama is smart he'll immediately change his tune about this scandal and start talking about the power of the American people, the right to privacy and the President serving the people and responding to their wishes.

He'd issue Snowden a full presidential pardon, host him at the White House with a welcome back ceremony, be seen with him everywhere trumpeting the change an individual can make when they stand for right in the face of impossible odds, issue an order to everyone that Snowden should be left entirely alone, etc.

Since that's not going to happen, what do we as the American people do to protect Snowden? I, for one, am grateful for the incredible sacrifice he's made of living in safety, of living in his own country, of being with his family and friends, of living out his career path, everything. What do we do to help encourage him to come home, out of foreign arms, and know he's safe from assassination or imprisonment?

 

[DCal430]

No can explain how this phone record program is illegal. Remember data is only being gathered. Actual individual warrants are still needed to view the data.

 

[ichy]

Do low level techs get salaries of $200.000 at then NSA? Wow. Where do I send my application?

He wasn't an NSA employee, he worked for Booze Allen.

 

[ichy]

This guy is so full of shit. He says we're losing internet freedom and then he flees to China? I bet that asshole sold the Chinese a whole shit ton of secrets while he was at it.

 

[shady28]

Yep. It sucks for him but it is not up to him to determine what is "legal" and "illegal" or "right" and "wrong".

Blowing the whistle on an illegal activity is not a crime. Participating in that activity is.

What you advocate sounds dangerously like a twist on "Yes we knew it was wrong, but we were just following orders".


"A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.

...developing, under the need for efficiency and stability, into the welfare-tyranny of Utopia. "

- Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World"

 

[ichy]

No can explain how this phone record program is illegal. Remember data is only being gathered. Actual individual warrants are still needed to view the data.

Don't let facts get in the way of mindless hysteria. The so-called War on Drugs has done far more harm to the average American's freedoms than this NSA program yet you don't hear any politicians wringing their hands about that.

 

[ichy]

Blowing the whistle on an illegal activity is not a crime. Participating in that activity is.

The program that he revealed was legal.

 

[Paul98]

No can explain how this phone record program is illegal. Remember data is only being gathered. Actual individual warrants are still needed to view the data.

So let say they do, how can the data be used? Just having a huge amount of data on everyone should be very scary.

 

[Jaskalas]

If Obama is smart he'll immediately change his tune about this scandal and start talking about the power of the American people, the right to privacy and the President serving the people and responding to their wishes.

He'd issue Snowden a full presidential pardon, host him at the White House with a welcome back ceremony, be seen with him everywhere trumpeting the change an individual can make when they stand for right in the face of impossible odds, issue an order to everyone that Snowden should be left entirely alone, etc.

Since that's not going to happen, what do we as the American people do to protect Snowden? I, for one, am grateful for the incredible sacrifice he's made of living in safety, of living in his own country, of being with his family and friends, of living out his career path, everything. What do we do to help encourage him to come home, out of foreign arms, and know he's safe from assassination or imprisonment?

We get a Governor to order state national guard to protect him. Feds say "hand him over", State tells Feds to go !@#$ themselves.

In short, if the Feds will not do right, a State must secede to do right.

 

[UberNeuman]

We get a Governor to order state national guard to protect him. Feds say "hand him over", State tells Feds to go !@#$ themselves.

In short, if the Feds will not do right, a State must secede to do right.

What law was broken?

 

[KK]

Should be locked up. Period.
What he did was treason regardless of your view on the NSA surveillance program.

founding fathers were would have been accused of treason too if they lost the war.

 

[Nintendesert]

See, this is the deflection now. It's horrible that he leaked this information!!!! It's illegal!!!!

All in an effort to drive the discussion away from what the NSA and US Government is doing.

 

[UberNeuman]

See, this is the deflection now. It's horrible that he leaked this information!!!! It's illegal!!!!

All in an effort to drive the discussion away from what the NSA and US Government is doing.

What law was broken?

 

[Nintendesert]

What law was broken?

You'll have to be more specific with your question.

 

[UberNeuman]

You'll have to be more specific with your question.

In either case...

 

[Nintendesert]

In either case...

What laws did the leaker break or what laws did the US government break in all this?

I must have drank a lot more whiskey than I thought.

 

[unokitty]

By law, NSA's intelligence gathering is limited to foreign communications...

...the Obama administration is defending this surveillance. A senior official in the Administration stated that these programs "comply with the Constitution" and "appropriately protect privacy and civil liberties."

They're wrong.

It's time for a full accounting of America's secret spying programs—and an end to unconstitutional surveillance...

Join EFF in calling for a full investigation by emailing Congress today.

Uno

 

[monovillage]

What law was broken?

He released classified documents and data.

 

[UberNeuman]

What laws did the leaker break or what laws did the US government break in all this?

I must have drank a lot more whiskey than I thought.

Let's go the US "goverment." Seems like they've signed a blank check back in 2008.... and it's been cashed in....

What law have they broken now?

 

[AreaCode707]

He released classified documents and data.

Which, lawyers will debate for years before concluding, was illegal under the fourth amendment. So which law did he break?

 

[DCal430]

What law was broken?

Him? He released sensitive and clasified information.

The federal government? None. All legal and valid.

 

[cliftonite]

Which, lawyers will debate for years before concluding, was illegal under the fourth amendment. So which law did he break?

The documents are still classified.

 

[michal1980]

Him? He released sensitive and clasified information.

The federal government? None. All legal and valid.

If the government hasn't done anything wrong, then why should it be afraid of sharing this information?

 

[JEDIYoda]

so what exactly did this young man do that was wrong??

The government spying on it`s own citizens is right?
What classified documents did this young man divulge??

Oh...you mean the classified documnets concerning the illegal collecting of our information....ohh...now I get it....

 

[Nintendesert]

Let's go the US "goverment." Seems like they've signed a blank check back in 2008.... and it's been cashed in....

What law have they broken now?

Who can say? All determinations on the legality of these programs are secret. Even the court rulings themselves are. Hard to judge what's illegal and not when it's all conducted behind closed doors.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics...tronic-frontier-foundation-fisa-court-opinion