Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Why didn't he just shoot himself?
(read the article - it applies in both senses...)
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: OsoVerde
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The only thing that guy would have been justified in doing was dumping the girlfriend.
If she was morally obligated to tell him she was born with the wrong bits, he should have been obligated to tell her he was dangerously unstable, right? Transwomen get harassed or murdered just for existing, so I can see why some would not be forthcoming about it. The murdered girlfriend probably just wanted to live a normal life as a female, since she identified as a woman and not a man.
Uhg, ATOT is full of violent homophobes apparently. Gay dudes aren't any more interested in being women than dating women. Transwomen aren't gay, unless they like chicks. Think about this- You'd still consider yourselves men even if you lost your dangly bits in an accident, correct? Or if you grew tits from hormonal problems? Gender is more about how you percieve yourself than what's in your pants. Some people are born with a body that looks one gender but they feel another. Some people are born with a body that isn't obviously male or female, then what? Nature or god doesn't always make a mind and body that match. Would you suggest killing people born with 6 fingers or one leg or a really ugly nose because it doesn't fit your preferences? What if the person got a nose job to look better?
I agree 110%. Thanks for being the voice of reason and intelligence amongst all the hatred and homophobia. :thumbsup:
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: OsoVerde
:disgust:
The only thing that guy would have been justified in doing was dumping the girlfriend.
If she was morally obligated to tell him she was born with the wrong bits, he should have been obligated to tell her he was dangerously unstable, right? Transwomen get harassed or murdered just for existing, so I can see why some would not be forthcoming about it. The murdered girlfriend probably just wanted to live a normal life as a female, since she identified as a woman and not a man.
Uhg, ATOT is full of violent homophobes apparently. Gay dudes aren't any more interested in being women than dating women. Transwomen aren't gay, unless they like chicks. Think about this- You'd still consider yourselves men even if you lost your dangly bits in an accident, correct? Or if you grew tits from hormonal problems? Gender is more about how you percieve yourself than what's in your pants. Some people are born with a body that looks one gender but they feel another. Some people are born with a body that isn't obviously male or female, then what? Nature or god doesn't always make a mind and body that match. Would you suggest killing people born with 6 fingers or one leg or a really ugly nose because it doesn't fit your preferences? What if the person got a nose job to look better?
I agree 110%. Thanks for being the voice of reason and intelligence amongst all the hatred and homophobia. :thumbsup:
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: VashHT
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: surfsatwerk
Originally posted by: Safeway
The article you linked contains:
"A vicious attack such as this, with the evidence of overkill and excessive brutality, leaves the whole transgender community feeling afraid to live their daily lives."
Uhm, why? Tell people you are transgendered prior to any sexual contact. Then, there is no deception and no bias-motivated rage.
You can't blame the victim for the crimes committed against them. If you're so emotionally out of whack that you kill another person who isn't creating a direct threat to your life, then you gotta own that behavior no blaming the victim bullshit.
If that was me, I'd probably have punched him a few times and got the fuck out of there.
What about this situation: Man goes to have sex with woman (real woman). The woman is HIV+ and knows this. She still has sex with the man without a condom, and he becomes HIV+.
To me, this is just like the man/transgender encounters. The transgender is hiding her natural sex on purpose, deceiving the man on purpose. The transgender knows that nothing would take place if the truth was out, but chooses to hide that truth.
Same thing with the HIV+ woman. She knows that there would be no sex if she spoke up about her disease. She chooses to hide it.
Hiding disease from a sexual partner is an actionable crime in criminal and civil court. Hiding gender should be too.
This is a retarded comparison, you don't get a permanent disease from sleeping with a trans-sexual. He could have moved on and lived his life normally, something you could not do if you contracted HIV from someone.
:roll: A woman can just move on and live life normally if she were raped.
This is rape. Two years of it. I'm not condoning murder, but a good lawyer and the right jury he should get off through insanity plea. But really, if a woman murdered her rapist, I would turn a blind eye, similar situation here.
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: OsoVerde
Uhg, ATOT is full of violent homophobes apparently. Gay dudes aren't any more interested in being women than dating women. Transwomen aren't gay, unless they like chicks. Think about this- You'd still consider yourselves men even if you lost your dangly bits in an accident, correct? Or if you grew tits from hormonal problems? Gender is more about how you percieve yourself than what's in your pants. Some people are born with a body that looks one gender but they feel another. Some people are born with a body that isn't obviously male or female, then what? Nature or god doesn't always make a mind and body that match. Would you suggest killing people born with 6 fingers or one leg or a really ugly nose because it doesn't fit your preferences? What if the person got a nose job to look better?
This is true.
Sex is a physical characteristic, gender is a mental perception.