Nuclear chief: No "smoking gun" in Iraq

[Piano Man]

CNN Link

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Piano Man
CNN Link

They don't have WMD, and they're not lying. Someone is lying however, and it isn't the Iraqis.

hint

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Why do they keep making news about not finding something?

Why not just wait until they do find something or the inspections are over?

It's like that episode of the Simpsons.

Homer shouting above an alarm: This alarm will go off every 3 seconds when everything is ok

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Piano Man
CNN Link

They don't have WMD, and they're not lying. Someone is lying however, and it isn't the Iraqis.

hint

The Bush fanboys are gonna slaughter you!

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I am beginning to think the inspectors are there just to keep Iraq from whipping anything together before we attack.

 

[Piano Man]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Why do they keep making news about not finding something?

Why not just wait until they do find something or the inspections are over?

It's like that episode of the Simpsons.

Homer shouting above an alarm: This alarm will go off every 3 seconds when everything is ok

Why? Because we are going to war for a reason that's not there. Plus, its VERY hard to prove a negative, which Iraq has done so far (emphasis on so far).

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Why do they keep making news about not finding something?

Why not just wait until they do find something or the inspections are over?

Isn't the point since the inspections are just about over? I thought they had a mid-January deadline. The fact is that Bush hasn't shown us any proof that Iraq has WoMD that they plan to use. There may be proof, but until we see it, why should we support a military mission there? The UN inspectors is all we can get information from. The fact that they can't find anything is even more reason that Bush needs to let us know what he knows.

 

[SlowSS]

Nuclear chief and his people are in search of nuc program.

UNMOVIC are in charge of searching for WMD and UNMOVIC hasn't made any public announcement,
they will report their findings on 27 Jan.

BTW, these guys making all these announcements are just adding fuel to the fire.
And they are appearing to be Iraqi sympathizers rather than in neutral position.
They should withhold any information until they report it to the UN.

 

[Piano Man]

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Nuclear chief and his people are in search of nuc program.

UNMOVIC are in charge of searching for WMD and UNMOVIC hasn't made any public announcement,
they will report their findings on 27 Jan.

BTW, these guys making all these announcements are just adding fuel to the fire.
And they are appearing to be Iraqi sympathizers rather than in neutral position.
They should withhold any information until they report it to the UN.

What's so biased about reporting that they haven't found anything? If they reported that they had, I wouldn't consider it biased, but the truth.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Nuclear chief and his people are in search of nuc program.

UNMOVIC are in charge of searching for WMD and UNMOVIC hasn't made any public announcement,
they will report their findings on 27 Jan.

Don't nuclear programs and weapons of mass distruction have an awful lot in common? If nuclear programs are found, there is a great chance of nuclear weapons, without a nuclear program there is a very low chance of nuclear weapons. Honestly that is the biggest threat at the moment. Anything else pales in comparison.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Nuclear chief and his people are in search of nuc program.

UNMOVIC are in charge of searching for WMD and UNMOVIC hasn't made any public announcement,
they will report their findings on 27 Jan.

Don't nuclear programs and weapons of mass distruction have an awful lot in common? If nuclear programs are found, there is a great chance of nuclear weapons, without a nuclear program there is a very low chance of nuclear weapons. Honestly that is the biggest threat at the moment. Anything else pales in comparison.

They aren't there looking for nukes as much as chem & bio weapons. Like I said, I think the inspectors could really be the US's first wave of the attack. They are keeping Iraq from mobilizing anything they might (probably do, just not on any sort of grand scale) have from being readied. I really can't believe Bush still has any sort of support for this. No evidence of WMD's, and no evidence of a connection to terrorism (which the media has conviently forgotten the Bush administration making accusations & promises of evidence about).

 

[SlowSS]

Originally posted by: Piano Man

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Nuclear chief and his people are in search of nuc program.

UNMOVIC are in charge of searching for WMD and UNMOVIC hasn't made any public announcement,
they will report their findings on 27 Jan.

BTW, these guys making all these announcements are just adding fuel to the fire.
And they are appearing to be Iraqi sympathizers rather than in neutral position.
They should withhold any information until they report it to the UN.

What's so biased about reporting that they haven't found anything? If they reported that they had, I wouldn't consider it biased, but the truth.

What is so hard about keeping their mouth shut just do what they were tasked to do, which is inspect for Nuc programs and weapons.
It is UN's resolution, let UN spokesperson make announcement. Situation with Iraq is tense as we all know, and their mouth isn't helping any.

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: hagbard

They don't have WMD, and they're not lying. Someone is lying however, and it isn't the Iraqis.

hint

LOL that's classic.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: SlowSS

Originally posted by: Piano Man

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Nuclear chief and his people are in search of nuc program.

UNMOVIC are in charge of searching for WMD and UNMOVIC hasn't made any public announcement,
they will report their findings on 27 Jan.

BTW, these guys making all these announcements are just adding fuel to the fire.
And they are appearing to be Iraqi sympathizers rather than in neutral position.
They should withhold any information until they report it to the UN.

What's so biased about reporting that they haven't found anything? If they reported that they had, I wouldn't consider it biased, but the truth.

What is so hard about keeping their mouth shut just do what they were tasked to do, which is inspect for Nuc programs and weapons.
It is UN's resolution, let UN spokesperson make announcement. Situation with Iraq is tense as we all know, and their mouth isn't helping any.

Why isn't it helping any? Don't you think that reporting that they are finding nothing will ease the tension? I don't understand your thinking.

 

[rudder]

We knew before sending in the inspectors that Iraq was not producing nuclear weapons. Since it takes a whole heck of a lot more real estate to produce a nuclear weapon (reactors are easy to spot) and its a lot cheaper to make chemical weapons, maybe we will hear a lot more after the 27th. Until then this is really non-news.

 

[justint]

Originally posted by: rudder
We knew before sending in the inspectors that Iraq was not producing nuclear weapons. Since it takes a whole heck of a lot more real estate to produce a nuclear weapon (reactors are easy to spot) and its a lot cheaper to make chemical weapons, maybe we will hear a lot more after the 27th. Until then this is really non-news.

In that case all of the Bush administrations vague and unsubstantiated allegations regarding Iraq are non news, but they seem to be leading up to war. At least in this case the director is giving a status report on concrete on the ground investigations in Iraq. It may not be all the information, but it least it is substantive and based on real events rather than rumor and rhetoric.

 

[m2kewl]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: SlowSS

Originally posted by: Piano Man

Originally posted by: SlowSS Nuclear chief and his people are in search of nuc program. UNMOVIC are in charge of searching for WMD and UNMOVIC hasn't made any public announcement, they will report their findings on 27 Jan. BTW, these guys making all these announcements are just adding fuel to the fire. And they are appearing to be Iraqi sympathizers rather than in neutral position. They should withhold any information until they report it to the UN.

What's so biased about reporting that they haven't found anything? If they reported that they had, I wouldn't consider it biased, but the truth.

What is so hard about keeping their mouth shut just do what they were tasked to do, which is inspect for Nuc programs and weapons. It is UN's resolution, let UN spokesperson make announcement. Situation with Iraq is tense as we all know, and their mouth isn't helping any.

Why isn't it helping any? Don't you think that reporting that they are finding nothing will ease the tension? I don't understand your thinking.

i think he's made up his mind what should be said

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: Piano Man

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
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Plus, its VERY hard to prove a negative,

...

That my friend is the problem in a nutshell. Proving that something doesn't exist is theoretically impossible. You can only prove that something DOES exist.

 

[Piano Man]

Originally posted by: justint

Originally posted by: rudder
We knew before sending in the inspectors that Iraq was not producing nuclear weapons. Since it takes a whole heck of a lot more real estate to produce a nuclear weapon (reactors are easy to spot) and its a lot cheaper to make chemical weapons, maybe we will hear a lot more after the 27th. Until then this is really non-news.

In that case all of the Bush administrations vague and unsubstantiated allegations regarding Iraq are non news, but they seem to be leading up to war. At least in this case the director is giving a status report on concrete on the ground investigations in Iraq. It may not be all the information, but it least it is substantive and based on real events rather than rumor and rhetoric.

Bingo.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I think the Bushies would retort that they know Saddam had parts to a gun and the ability to make bullets. Ultimately, Saddam MUST account for his potential.

Edit for bad syntax.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Piano Man
CNN Link

They don't have WMD, and they're not lying. Someone is lying however, and it isn't the Iraqis.

hint

theres one born every second...

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

theres one born every second...

Poor excuse for a public servant? I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[sandorski]

The time will soon be upon us, it seems, when Bush will have to put up or shut up. Unfortunetly, I don't expect him to do either, he's dug himself into too big a rhetorical hole to not invade Iraq now.

 

[SlowSS]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: SlowSS

Originally posted by: Piano Man

Originally posted by: SlowSS
Nuclear chief and his people are in search of nuc program.

UNMOVIC are in charge of searching for WMD and UNMOVIC hasn't made any public announcement,
they will report their findings on 27 Jan.

BTW, these guys making all these announcements are just adding fuel to the fire.
And they are appearing to be Iraqi sympathizers rather than in neutral position.
They should withhold any information until they report it to the UN.

What's so biased about reporting that they haven't found anything? If they reported that they had, I wouldn't consider it biased, but the truth.

What is so hard about keeping their mouth shut just do what they were tasked to do, which is inspect for Nuc programs and weapons.
It is UN's resolution, let UN spokesperson make announcement. Situation with Iraq is tense as we all know, and their mouth isn't helping any.

Why isn't it helping any? Don't you think that reporting that they are finding nothing will ease the tension? I don't understand your thinking.

My point is they are tasked with inspections and they are to report their finding at specified time and that is exactly what they should do.
There are a subordinate to UN and it is UN who should do any type of announcements. They weren't assigned to work on public relations.
I want them to keep their mouth shut do their job and report the findings to the UN. If they don't find anything great, if they do find Nuc or WMD
let UN make the decision based on their resolutions.

 

[tcsenter]

They don't have WMD, and they're not lying. Someone is lying however, and it isn't the Iraqis.

The purpose of the inspections is to verify this, which Iraq has endeavored to obstruct and hamper and prevent from day one. The inspections are complete when the UN says they're complete, not when Hussein says they're complete. Iraq will have no WMD or infrastructure when the UN confirms it has none, not when Hussein says they have none.

And I'm not sure what you mean by your implied comment about the Bush Administration lying. The Bush Administration's position is that Iraq evicted and terminated inspections before they were complete, therefore has never met its obligations. Can you offer any evidence this is not true?

Did the UN weapons inspectors complete their job but the entire world has been lied to by the United Nations?