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Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
so many junkies on atot!

Screw you and anyone like you- you are all ignorant, smug, and believe your choices and view in the world are the be-all to end-all.
You feel better to be above an "influence." Drugs are chemicals, the association with the word gives it a negative connotation.

Without LSD, we wouldn't have figured out when we did that DNA is a double helix.


And there is little doubt that Schroedinger went up to that mountain and did something
And he came down and delivered to mankind an equation more important than the ten commandments.

I know how to work that equation- the entire periodic table can be derived from this one equation, and 99% of the modern technology and amenities we all enjoy come from that equation. Because I know how to use it, and many others don't, does this make me better? No.

So you not choosing to add chemicals to your body, towards the ends of enhancing life rather than what you view as others defecating it is a choice, and makes you no better.
Not everyone that uses 'drugs' are addicts, or have no appreciation for life. Alcoholics give you the view of a user, because you know little of culture other than your own.

People who are judgmental about substance use have the view they do out of an insecurity for inexperience on the subject matter. If something is alien to a person, it is assumed to be wrong and must be abolish- a keystone of ignorance and a lack of tolerance. All that attitude does is perpetuation a self-centered attitude towards others, and is responsible for such atrocities as the Spanish inquisition and the holocaust.

sorry if you, in particular, were being sarcastic

Idiocy rises from the dead!

Anyway, the main thing is, without X-Ray crystallography, we wouldn't know DNA is a double helix. For further explanations see my first point.
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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Actually, the image of the double helix had been thrown around from the crystallography, and no one could realize it was indeed a double helix. Until cricks decided to dose with a little Lysergic acid diethylamide

http://www.miqel.com/entheogen...cis_crick_dna_lsd.html
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=22271
http://www.hallucinogens.com/lsd/francis-crick.html
http://articles.mercola.com/si...he-figured-it-out.aspx

I suppose if someone were to do nutmeg and figure out the key to successful- positive energy output fusion they'd be as lame as can be...

Idiocy has certainly so risen...
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
Dude, you have 17,000 some posts to people with limited avatar choice, me being a blonde-haired kid, and a friggin bald eagle. Meanwhile, I've been strung out for the entire day, not posting, hanging out with friends over a three-day weekend with no responsibilities. GET A MIRROR.
3 tablespoons I took. Exactly 12 hours ago....



Go and get a CDL drivers license,
and Then, get a good paying job, with a retirement plan, health insurance etc...
and deal with Random Drug testing.

I am willing to take a CDL Drug test any day, and I will pass.


Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/facts...esting-update-2003.htm

FMCSA requires all motor carriers operating vehicles that must be driven by someone holding a CDL to have drug and alcohol testing programs. Such vehicles include trucks with gross combination weight ratings of more than 26,000 pounds, trucks carrying specific hazardous materials that require the vehicle to be placarded in accordance with FMCSA regulations, and buses designed to carry 16 or more passengers, including the driver. Carriers must randomly test a fixed percentage of their CDL drivers both for alcohol and for a specified set of five controlled substances.

In the case of alcohol, a driver is in violation of FMCSA regulations when the alcohol breath content is 0.02 grams per 210 liters of breath?equivalent to a blood alcohol content (BAC) of 0.02 grams per deciliter (g/dL). Drivers testing at this level are not permitted to perform safety-sensitive functions for at least 24 hours. In addition, drivers who test at the 0.04 g/dL level or higher must be evaluated by a substance abuse professional and undergo additional testing before being allowed to return to duty. For controlled substances, drivers are tested for marijuana, cocaine, opiates, amphetamines, and PCP. Table 1 shows the cutoff levels for identifying the use of these drugs, based on guidelines set by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Sure thing, the active principle ingredient in salvia is metabolized faster than most people can long divide a 3 digit number into a 7 digit number.
As for nutmeg, it isn't screened for.
 

zanejohnson

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Nov 29, 2002
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Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
so many junkies on atot!

Screw you and anyone like you- you are all ignorant, smug, and believe your choices and view in the world are the be-all to end-all.
You feel better to be above an "influence." Drugs are chemicals, the association with the word gives it a negative connotation.

Without LSD, we wouldn't have figured out when we did that DNA is a double helix.

And there is little doubt that Schroedinger went up to that mountain and did something
And he came down and delivered to mankind an equation more important than the ten commandments.

I know how to work that equation- the entire periodic table can be derived from this one equation, and 99% of the modern technology and amenities we all enjoy come from that equation. Because I know how to use it, and many others don't, does this make me better? No.

So you not choosing to add chemicals to your body, towards the ends of enhancing life rather than what you view as others defecating it is a choice, and makes you no better.
Not everyone that uses 'drugs' are addicts, or have no appreciation for life. Alcoholics give you the view of a user, because you know little of culture other than your own.

People who are judgmental about substance use have the view they do out of an insecurity for inexperience on the subject matter. If something is alien to a person, it is assumed to be wrong and must be abolish- a keystone of ignorance and a lack of tolerance. All that attitude does is perpetuation a self-centered attitude towards others, and is responsible for such atrocities as the Spanish inquisition and the holocaust.

sorry if you, in particular, were being sarcastic

p.s.
caffeine is a drug, so is alcohol, and addictive behavior is responsible for obsessive musical appreciation (being late b/c you didn't want to get out of your car because a song came on), choice of using gas-guzzling vehicles to boost one's self image and self esteem, sexism, womanizing behavior, seeking of power and fame, sexual abuse and addiction to sec itself. Running causes a release of endorphins that is addictive (talk to a marathon runner on a day they couldn't do their run)

also "drugs" have a chemical basis that has a method of interaction with the synapses in the brain- and majority have "receptors" that the brain uses to detect the compound, and respond in some way. Kind of like how your nose registers a scent when molecules are drawn in on the air we breath.

your a cool dude.


i've never tried nutmeg, and never intend to... i've DXM tripped before though, we did the extraction method and extracted the pure Dextramethorphan, it was good everytime...i've tripped on mushrooms, but never LSD... mushroom trips can be good or bad, if you over do it, it can get quite scary and you can go into panic mode, this happened to me once, and i havent tripped on shrooms since, but the other times it was wonderful, pure bliss....

nowdays i just stick to my prescribed medications and a joint every once in a long while.....im prescribed xanax 2mg and dolophine, 90mg a day.
 

venkman

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When I was in High School, I could never convince the girls that you can get high off penis.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
"This one time I got really drunk, and did't remember anything."
"This other time I threw up all over. "

So I suppose almost all this country's youth are below me for succumbing to both of these, where someone doing alternates doesn't?

I dont do drugs, alcohol, or smoking.

I am above you all.

Suck it.

nah, youre' just really lame.

you'd be "above them all" if you had done those things, learned a bit, and chose not to do them anymore.

abstaining is as uninformed and ignorant as it gets...not absolutely knocking abstaining, just the holier-than-though idea that you will never try, therefore you have some clue of what you are talking about.
you don't.

try it once. decide it's not for you, then start preaching.

as for nutmeg...what the fuck is wrong with you, OP?
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
Actually, the image of the double helix had been thrown around from the crystallography, and no one could realize it was indeed a double helix. Until cricks decided to dose with a little Lysergic acid diethylamide

http://www.miqel.com/entheogen...cis_crick_dna_lsd.html
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=22271
http://www.hallucinogens.com/lsd/francis-crick.html
http://articles.mercola.com/si...he-figured-it-out.aspx

I suppose if someone were to do nutmeg and figure out the key to successful- positive energy output fusion they'd be as lame as can be...

Idiocy has certainly so risen...

oh god, the ultimate logical fallacy in the myth of discovery. If person A had died, we would have never had B.

BS. some other person who was less bat-shit crazy than Watson or Crick would have put all of the info together on DNA if they had not done it. (FYI, Watson and Crick never did their own research; they actually spent the majority of their time at the Central Dogma Bar getting blitzed on stout when they put together the tireless research of others to come up with the double helix). Of course, Rosalyn Franklin is the chief person involved in that discovery, far more than those other limey tools. She was the one behind the crucial crystallography work. (which is such a pain in the ass, that if it is indeed possible that one person's absence would have halted the discovery of DNA, it would be her, and not Watson or Crick).

anyhoo, drugs can be good for inspiration and such, but are brutally awful when it comes to formulating concise and sensible thoughts. best thing is to brainstorm while blitzed, take a few notes, then sleep it off and sober up. No good work can be done while high, despite what you may think. (speaking from experience here...)
 

blackllotus

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Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
I know how to work that equation- the entire periodic table can be derived from this one equation, and 99% of the modern technology and amenities we all enjoy come from that equation. Because I know how to use it, and many others don't, does this make me better? No.

What the fuck are you talking about?
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
I know how to work that equation- the entire periodic table can be derived from this one equation, and 99% of the modern technology and amenities we all enjoy come from that equation. Because I know how to use it, and many others don't, does this make me better? No.

What the fuck are you talking about?

remember that he's tripping on nutmeg while trying to post and sound informed....
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
I know how to work that equation- the entire periodic table can be derived from this one equation, and 99% of the modern technology and amenities we all enjoy come from that equation. Because I know how to use it, and many others don't, does this make me better? No.

What the fuck are you talking about?

the schdrodinger wave equation. It is very complicated, and its implications very far-reaching. It is also responsible for much of what we use on a daily basis, technology-wise. It is very interesting.
 

rivan

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Wow.

Just.... wow.



You know, I'd write a long, drawn out post about my experiences and the conclusions I've come to, but one of those conclusions is that people like you aren't interested in anyone else's conclusions.

I hope you're one of the lucky ones that learns from their mistakes.
 

duragezic

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HAHAHA jenkems!

My roommate told me about that a while ago. Funny shit. Meanwhile, I'm just chilling here, 'meggin'...

HAHAHAHHA
 

clamum

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Seconded on the jenkem suggestion. I hear that is a great buzz, and it's basically free to make.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
"This one time I got really drunk, and did't remember anything."
"This other time I threw up all over. "

So I suppose almost all this country's youth are below me for succumbing to both of these, where someone doing alternates doesn't?

I dont do drugs, alcohol, or smoking.

I am above you all.

Suck it.

Most people like that who I know are really boring.
 

IEC

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
If your willing to swallow the amount of nutmeg it takes to make you high, you really really need to seek counseling.

+1
 

eakers

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Don't do it.
I've never done it myself but everyone I know who has done it has had a completely awful time with it. Apparently its the worst high ever and you'll get right sick.
 

skywhr

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n low doses, nutmeg produces no noticeable physiological or neurological response. Large doses of 60 g (~12 teaspoons) or more are dangerous, potentially inducing convulsions, palpitations, nausea, eventual dehydration, and generalized body pain[1] In amounts of 10-40 g (~4-8 teaspoons) it is a mild to medium hallucinogen, producing visual distortions and a mild euphoria. Nutmeg contains myristicin, a weak monoamine oxidase inhibitor.

A test was carried out on the substance that showed that, when ingested in large amounts, nutmeg takes on a similar chemical make-up to MDMA (ecstasy)[citations needed]. However, use of nutmeg as a recreational drug is unpopular due to its unpleasant taste and its side effects, including dizziness, flushes, dry mouth, accelerated heartbeat, temporary constipation, difficulty in urination, nausea, and panic. A user will not experience a peak until approximately six hours after ingestion, and effects can linger for up to three days afterwards.

A risk in any large-quantity (over 25 g, ~5 teaspoons) ingestion of nutmeg is the onset of 'nutmeg poisoning', an acute psychiatric disorder marked by thought disorder, a sense of impending doom/death, and agitation. Some cases have resulted in hospitalization.

Fatalities occur with lower doses with children. An 8-year-old boy who consumed just two nutmegs fell into a coma, only to die 20 hours later.[2]

wiki ftw
 

amerikanight

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Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Go out and buy some Salvia. Report back to us.

yep... tried that this weekend...

IT WAS FRIGGIN NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually tried it the weekend before last as well but had no effect. since its been on the news and all I gave it another shot with some friends watching. I was VERY skeptical of any resulting changes in awareness and thought if anything it was like a cigarette buzz.

EHHHEMMMMM....

then came the wildest, nuttiest, trippiest few minutes Ive witnessed.

With about 5 or 6 others in the room, I began to lose track of time, language, and physical control. I went through what felt like an out of body experience. It felt like a shockwave from some crazy explosion or something was ripping through my world and I was able to see what was happening to everyone just a split second before it hit them. Although, I was obviously the only going through it. Everyone blended together almost as if their bodies and everything around me was being ripped from their souls and a "spiritual world". I couldnt understand words, I couldnt speak, I couldnt really even move. I almost felt paralyzed but in somewhat chaotic comfort. I really thought it might have been the end of days... and that kinda frightened me. But then life is only counterbalanced with death and I had to come to a reckoning of such.

Then as it starts to wear off, my body felt like it had gone to sleep and had pins n needles. I couldnt physically shake it off for about 5-10 minutes. And trust me thats long enough...

But the mental pictures it left give me a new respect for the world and our frail existence.

Its a crazy life, people... and nobody is better than ANYONE else for doing or NOT doing what somebody else thinks life is. As long as I can stand on my own and contribute to society as I feel is positive and constructive.... then "for me" thats as good as life can get.

Having a "Im better than you" mentality actually only affects YOU and makes you "less than YOU are" or were a couple seconds before saying it.

okay rant done. im going to the beach.
 
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