The name of this thread is "NV 12VHPWR issues revisited". We had heard a few reports of molten connectors in the early weeks of the 4090 release. Then guidelines were issued by Nvidia about ensuring the connectors are properly secured during installation. Then reports of molten connectors tapered off for a few months then suddenly spiked again. That is about when Cable Mod began selling their adapters.Wait what? That's a pretty backwards way of looking at things.
That is about when Cable Mod began selling their adapters.
If these repair shops repaired cards only or primarily because of the Cable Mod adapter they would have said so. Where's the evidence of your claim that "the vast majority were these adapters"?The name of this thread is "NV 12VHPWR issues revisited". We had heard a few reports of molten connectors in the early weeks of the 4090 release. Then guidelines were issued by Nvidia about ensuring the connectors are properly secured during installation. Then reports of molten connectors tapered off for a few months then suddenly spiked again. That is about when Cable Mod began selling their adapters.
Cable Mod have sent many cards to Northridge Fix (as well as Kriss Fix in Germany) who refurbish the cards that were damaged due to their connectors. Pretty sure that has a lot do with NRF reporting he fixes about a 100 4090s per month .. Sure, a few may have melted without CM adapters, but I believe the vast majority were with these adapters (CM have sold about 25000 adapters).
Again, why the lull in molten adapter reports until this "revisited" thread in May when CM were in full swing selling their adapters.
I get that you have an issue with some above quoted posts, I don't need to name them.The name of this thread is "NV 12VHPWR issues revisited". We had heard a few reports of molten connectors in the early weeks of the 4090 release. Then guidelines were issued by Nvidia about ensuring the connectors are properly secured during installation. Then reports of molten connectors tapered off for a few months then suddenly spiked again. That is about when Cable Mod began selling their adapters.
Cable Mod have sent many cards to Northridge Fix (as well as Kriss Fix in Germany) who refurbish the cards that were damaged due to their connectors. Pretty sure that has a lot do with NRF reporting he fixes about a 100 4090s per month .. Sure, a few may have melted without CM adapters, but I believe the vast majority were with these adapters (CM have sold about 25000 adapters).
Again, why the lull in molten adapter reports until this "revisited" thread in May when CM were in full swing selling their adapters.
Well this the point. There were very few adapters reported as melted until May of last year when the CM adapters entered circulation. That may not be solid evidence, but interesting coincidence. AND seems to have been enough in numbers for CM to issue a recall.If these repair shops repaired cards only or primarily because of the Cable Mod adapter they would have said so. Where's the evidence of your claim that "the vast majority were these adapters"?
I believe the point of this thread is to bring awareness of the problem and hold those accountable for using the design. CableMod is the only company I am aware of that has stood up for its customers and done something about it. Not NVidia, nor MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, etc for selling products that are unsafe. The fact that the cable has already been altered, and still doesn't seem to work all that well, is only more evidence that these other companies should be held accountable. Since NVidia is the company requiring this connector, they should be the ones "on trial". I commend CableMod for doing the right thing. But there were cards before the CM adapters. Gamer's Nexus didn't use a CM adapter during their testing.Well this the point. There were very few adapters reported as melted until May of last year when the CM adapters entered circulation. That may not be solid evidence, but interesting coincidence. AND seems to have been enough in numbers for CM to issue a recall.
Make of it what you will, but look at all those reddit links BFG10k pulled out that show several 4080 connector failures with CM adapters. With 25000 of those adapters sold one could reasonable infer a hell of a lot more affected the power hungry 4090s.
Granted, I do believe the 12VHPWR is a faulty design if even allowing 1% failure of hundreds of thousands of cards sold to occur. But the way some arguments are presented in this thread is like watch out, any 40 series cards that has it is highly prone to disaster regardless of the power draw of the card.
Possible explanation why the ground pins often don't melt: the connector sends less current back to the PSU than it takes, forcing the difference through the motherboard EPS/ATX connectors instead. This can potentially affect audio and USB signals.
Ground on the wrong track: Why only certain power connector pins melt and we should rethink PCs | Part 1 of 2 | igor´sLAB
Some things are accidental discoveries and are actually so trivial that nobody even bothers to question the current flows in the PC and, above all, to measure them. We only ever measure the 12-volt…www.igorslab.de
Well... don't you want you motherboard to nice and warm and maybe a bit toasty!?Is that "healthy" for the motherboard?
While the original pins were long gone, Northwest Repair was able to cut off the same pins from a donor board and attach them to the 4090 using epoxy and solder.
While I don't doubt Leather Jacket Man's greed, this is probably better described as hubris. And since it has gone on for so long now, there is a certainly cult-like stubbornness at play.Burned RTX 4090 brought back from the dead — PCIe repair job resurrects GPU that suffered power connector meltdown
A second chance for this 4090.www.tomshardware.com
Sad that an expensive and otherwise fine card suffered due to Mr. Black Jacket's greed. Don't think that card will be able to draw too much power without that solder melting so the owner will need to power limit it.
He actually answered this a while ago, most of the repairs he does have been denied warranty.That's just one shop! I guess a lot of these users fall in love with their defective cards so much that they can't stand the thought of RMA'ing them and then receiving someone else's repaired card.
Obviously to avoid being sued by a company if a card or the entire system on their premises goes up in smoke/flamesHmmm, I wonder what possible reason NV had to do this on their professional cards?