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He's trying to explain the obvious to the layman: putting labels on things does not make them behave like the name implies. The sensing pins do not measure or sense anything, they just make contact and increase the likelihood that power pins have good contacts well.I am 9 minutes in and - "the sense wires are senising themselves...nothing is sensed or measured"
The sense pins should more accurately be called config pins. They just indicate to the card the maximum power the power supply can deliver.He's trying to explain the obvious to the layman: putting labels on things does not make them behave like the name implies. The sensing pins do not measure or sense anything, they just make contact and increase the likelihood that power pins have good contacts well.
For example, when Nvidia says "user error", they don't mean that users made mistakes. Nope, they use the name "user error" as a code-name for bad connector and bad power delivery design. User Error is just a PR and marketing term
PS: I'm out of /s tags, will add one when they're back in stock.
LOL yeah I got that. As he explained, this entire FUBAR mess is because they took a bad design and made it worse. Zero safety measures in place making what should not be technically possible, technically possible.He's trying to explain the obvious to the layman: putting labels on things does not make them behave like the name implies.
Yeah, they took the shortcut. A more sensible way would be to punch a hole in the mobo and have the connector at the bottom of the card next to the PCIe slot connector. Affix the cable with screws to that hole and when the card is inserted, the card's underside female connector naturally fits into the PSU's screwed in and secured male connector.I personally think the whole dumb design is due to catering to the PCMR showcase build fad, and their OCD level obsession with cable management.
There is nothing sensible about that. How about do what adult Jimmy Neutron said, and go back to the tried and true method. If you need 4 cables plugged in? so be it. If buyers need to buy a new PSU designed for the new cards? so be it. If you are already spending $2500 or more on a card, you can pony up a few $$$ for a new PSU too.Yeah, they took the shortcut. A more sensible way would be to punch a hole in the mobo
FTFYwhat have they all become?
I couldn't agree more. It'd also be great if we go back to sharing our stoke more, and complaining about everything and anything less. Then "we" would not have to complain about the complaining.high-end retail computing is entirely led by 'enthusiasts' of which 95% are gamers or as described above with OCD level obsessions with cable management and other absurdities...
all for that strange 'clean looking' PC tower picture with leds to post on reddit for useless reddit points
what have we all become?
He's trying to explain the obvious to the layman: putting labels on things does not make them behave like the name implies. The sensing pins do not measure or sense anything, they just make contact and increase the likelihood that power pins have good contacts well.
For example, when Nvidia says "user error", they don't mean that users made mistakes. Nope, they use the name "user error" as a code-name for bad connector and bad power delivery design. User Error is just a PR and marketing term
PS: I'm out of /s tags, will add one when they're back in stock.
I wouldn't be too sure about that. If 5090 is the BEST they could do, they really aren't the best. At least not anymore. Just fat slobs enjoying their riches.over-ruling the best advice of his people to improve the connector design.
The way he pushes the new cable in almost gently by jiggling his wrist shows alot of IQ there... You plug things like a switch, all in instantely you don't jiggle your wrist so the connector can make its way to the GPU that's completely stupid and wear the connector out even more and even faster making the pins inside moving and losing their optimal contact. I'm shocked nobody noticed this. He is too lazy to take out his gpu from his bench so he is already fucking the pins up on a brand new connector despite the already lame and awful Nvidia design.
They should sell 5090 SE 24GB with 350W TBP and slimmer AIB designs @ strict 4090 MSRP.and even with all that extra power the results are still very disappointing...... what a failure
I think they have very competent people. No one there would dare risk their job with the crap connector design unless they were over-ruled from above. ie, Jensen with his overly idealistic form-over-function vision of what the card could be.I wouldn't be too sure about that. If 5090 is the BEST they could do, they really aren't the best. At least not anymore. Just fat slobs enjoying their riches.
They are probably not eating their own dogfood. Everyone there except the lowly testers are on data center hardware and the testers never get any respect because most executives don't want to hear about small issues like a connector. They are leaving the brunt of the responsibility on the AIBs. That's why ASUS had to fortify their 5090 against the inherent faults to reduce RMA rates or risk tarnishing their reputation due to Jensen's shenanigans.I mean, they have almost 30.000 employees, is there really not a single person that looked at the 4090 cable issues and analysed the new cards? It's hard to believe ...
The FE is a 2 slot design. Thats the problem. No room for power connector safety features.5090 going down in history as the fattest most thirsty PCIE card ever
LOL yeah I got that. As he explained, this entire FUBAR mess is because they took a bad design and made it worse. Zero safety measures in place making what should not be technically possible, technically possible.
While there is the old adage that if you try to make something idiot proof, they just make a better idiot. The old design worked quite well as he opined, and if it ain't broke don't fix it. I personally think the whole dumb design is due to catering to the PCMR showcase build fad, and their OCD level obsession with cable management.
Do not want.Yeah, they took the shortcut. A more sensible way would be to punch a hole in the mobo and have the connector at the bottom of the card next to the PCIe slot connector. Affix the cable with screws to that hole and when the card is inserted, the card's underside female connector naturally fits into the PSU's screwed in and secured male connector.
But the best is just giving these cards an external fat power brick.