NV 4060 / 4060TI reviews

[BFG10K]

Wow, how could NV possibly decide it was a good idea to release this? After 2 years at the same $400 price it can't even convincingly beat the 3060TI. This should be no more than $279.

AMD have a great opportunity here to outdo this turd, but sadly I think the 7600 will be equally subpar

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[jpiniero]

Based on the pricing and leaked performance, these cards are DOA.

$299 for the 4060 really profanity removed over AMD. (And nVidia really, they must be desperate)

It's too late for AMD to cancel the 7600 but I guess they could just end N33 production.

 

[BFG10K]

$299 for the 4060 really fucks over AMD. (And nVidia really, they must be desperate)

MLID is saying even @ $269, the 7600 would still have decent margins.

 

[jpiniero]

MLID is saying even @ $269, the 7600 would still have decent margins.

MLID is fake news. The 7600 is cheaper to manufacture than the 4060 but it's not going to be worth it at the price it'd have to be now.

This could easily be the last entry level GPUs.

 

[coercitiv]

It's too late for AMD to cancel the 7600 but I guess they could just end N33 production.

But you said they already have too many chips. There's probably a mountain of N33 chips refused by OEMs. AMD must be talking to Atari, see if there's any room left next to those E.T. cartridges.

 

[TESKATLIPOKA]

I don't see any mention of RTX 4060's price in presentations. How does Techpowerup know It will cost only $299?

 

[coercitiv]

I don't see any mention of RTX 4060's price in presentations. How does Techpowerup know It will cost only $299?

"The RTX 4060 family delivers PC gamers both great value and great performance at 1080p, whether they're building a gaming battle box or an AI-assisted creation station," said Matt Wuebbling, vice president of global GeForce marketing at NVIDIA.

"These GPUs deliver an incredible upgrade, starting at just $299, putting Ada Lovelace and DLSS 3 in the hands of millions more worldwide."

 

[BFG10K]

I don't see any mention of RTX 4060's price in presentations. How does Techpowerup know It will cost only $299?

NVIDIA today announced the GeForce RTX™ 4060 family of GPUs, with two graphics cards that deliver all the advancements of the NVIDIA® Ada Lovelace architecture — including DLSS 3 neural rendering and third-generation ray-tracing technologies at high frame rates — starting at just $299.

GeForce RTX 4060 Family Is Here: NVIDIA’s Revolutionary Ada Lovelace Architecture Comes to Core Gamers Everywhere, Starting at $299

NVIDIA today announced the GeForce RTX™ 4060 family of GPUs, with two graphics cards that deliver all the advancements of the NVIDIA® Ada Lovelace architecture — including DLSS 3 neural rendering and third-generation ray-tracing technologies at high frame rates — starting at just $299.

nvidianews.nvidia.com

 

[blckgrffn]

Honestly this changes almost nothing? I don't see how this screws over AMD, provides good options for people waiting this long, etc.

All of the cards under the 4080 are named (and priced) a tier to high.

The 4070ti is what the 4070 should be. The 4070 is what the 4060ti should be. And so on. The 4600 looks nifty in that nvidia actually cut the MSRP of the *60 part by ~$30 but what they are really delivering is the 4050 as the 4060.

Hopefully Toms will do the right thing and eviscerate the 4060 as the 3060 replacement. It's barely faster at 1080p and will likely be crushed by minimum frame lows in 2k/high settings testing and be shown as a obvious regression due to 8GB of ram.

You could have bought a 3060 so long ago for ~$330 or less on a deal and had a card roughly equal to the 4060 card in many instances the entire damn time. And likely to last longer at higher detail levels to boot.

As much of a stutter step the 3060 was compared to the 2060 (maybe as fast a s 2070 but a solid 12GB frame buffer, easy power consumption) this is even worse. I liked the 3060 at sub $300 but the base 4060 is like a $200 card to me.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I liked the 3060 at sub $300 but the base 4060 is like a $200 card to me.

Agree!

 

[In2Photos]

4060Ti has ~3070 performance. Oooohhhh, let me get excited.

 

[blckgrffn]

4060Ti has ~3070 performance. Oooohhhh, let me get excited.

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You forgot how awesome it will be with those big green arrows in weird stutter mode as they attempt to generate frames from too few frames

 

[In2Photos]

You forgot how awesome it will be with those big green arrows in weird stutter mode as they attempt to generate frames from too few frames

Dang it! nVidia, TAKE MY MONEY!!!

 

[Timorous]

Too expensive across the board as is typical this gen (aside from the 4090).

$249 for the 4060
$329 for the 4060Ti 8GB
$399 for the 4060Ti 16GB

That would really screw AMD and actually get NV some very positive press and reviews. At these prices AMD has options and opportunity to take a bit of mindshare. A 16GB N33 based 7600XT at $299 or a 12GB N32 based 7600XT at $349 would both be very viable.

 

[NTMBK]

Wait, I thought that 128-bit cards were 50 series? What happened to 192-bit?

 

[blckgrffn]

Wait, I thought that 128-bit cards were 50 series? What happened to 192-bit?

Inflation is not limited to prices. It works on model numbers as well.

AKA, the 4050 graduated up to the 4060 moniker because marketing works!

 

[jpiniero]

Honestly this changes almost nothing? I don't see how this screws over AMD, provides good options for people waiting this long, etc.

I think AMD was hoping to make a little bit of money on the 7600, assuming that the 4060 would be $349 at least. With Navi 33 laptop being a megabust, who knows how many chips they have lying around. AMD's going to have to drop the 7600's initial MSRP to well under $300 now.

 

[coercitiv]

Wait, I thought that 128-bit cards were 50 series? What happened to 192-bit?

192-bit got a promotion... to $600 and $800 cards

[Later Edit]: to be fair though, it kinda seems like a natural evolution based on the direction the GPU industry is heading towards. AFAIK large & fast caches are required for good RT perf, so it makes sense to transition some of the die space from MC to L2/L3. The extra bonus is reduced power draw... and the big trade-off is losing performance scaling as render resolution goes up.

For example, the new 4060TI and 4060 performance figures against the 3000 gen are offered by Nvidia for 1080p Max Settings, with DLSS enabled wherever possible. This means the pressure on the memory bus is reduced as much as possible. Things may look a bit different when we move to 1080p native in all games, or even worse for 1440p native.

 

[Mopetar]

4060Ti has ~3070 performance. Oooohhhh, let me get excited.

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Don't worry, I'm sure that future versions of DLSS will be able to generate enthusiasm for you as well.

 

[Mopetar]

I think AMD was hoping to make a little bit of money on the 7600, assuming that the 4060 would be $349 at least. With Navi 33 laptop being a megabust, who knows how many chips they have lying around. AMD's going to have to drop the 7600's initial MSRP to well under $300 now.

A 7600 for over $300 was a bad value already. The only thing NVidia has done is make it look worse by comparison.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Inflation is not limited to prices. It works on model numbers as well.

AKA, the 4050 graduated up to the 4060 moniker because marketing works!

Being 128 bit, looks like 4050 graduated to 4060 Ti

 

[IEC]

A tier too low in performance and a tier too high in price.

AMD and nV alike are in for a rude awakening when sales don't meet their expectations.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

192-bit got a promotion... to $600 and $800 cards

[Later Edit]: to be fair though, it kinda seems like a natural evolution based on the direction the GPU industry is heading towards. AFAIK large & fast caches are required for good RT perf, so it makes sense to transition some of the die space from MC to L2/L3. The extra bonus is reduced power draw... and the big trade-off is losing performance scaling as render resolution goes up.

For example, the new 4060TI and 4060 performance figures against the 3000 gen are offered by Nvidia for 1080p Max Settings, with DLSS enabled wherever possible. This means the pressure on the memory buss is reduced as much as possible. Things may look a bit different when we move to 1080p native in all games, or even worse for 1440p native.

$400 for freaking 1080p gpus what a joke

 

[NTMBK]

192-bit got a promotion... to $600 and $800 cards

[Later Edit]: to be fair though, it kinda seems like a natural evolution based on the direction the GPU industry is heading towards. AFAIK large & fast caches are required for good RT perf, so it makes sense to transition some of the die space from MC to L2/L3. The extra bonus is reduced power draw... and the big trade-off is losing performance scaling as render resolution goes up.

For example, the new 4060TI and 4060 performance figures against the 3000 gen are offered by Nvidia for 1080p Max Settings, with DLSS enabled wherever possible. This means the pressure on the memory buss is reduced as much as possible. Things may look a bit different when we move to 1080p native in all games, or even worse for 1440p native.

Honestly I'd happily sacrifice all the RT and DLSS features for better raster performance.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I know a ton of people still play on 1080p but who is paying $400 to $500 for a gpu and gaming on 1080p?