Maybe next year in a refresh if GDDR7 has more than 2 GB/chip.
I have a prediction. If the 4060 doesn't sell all that well, nGreedia may release a 12GB version, to make it attractive at the $299 price point. That would be worth a bite.
8GB cards are for 1080p medium textures these days.Are there AAA titles out there today, that won't play on a 6GB GTX 1660 ti on, say, 1080P Med. textures? Or are we upping our everyday standards to require 1080P Ultra now, just because that's the way the benchmarks are run?
Meh it would still be slower than a 6700 XT that you can get for $310 to $320 a lot of the time, and often with a bundled game.I have a prediction. If the 4060 doesn't sell all that well, nGreedia may release a 12GB version, to make it attractive at the $299 price point. That would be worth a bite.
4060 8GB may then fall down to $249.
I have a prediction. If the 4060 doesn't sell all that well, nGreedia may release a 12GB version, to make it attractive at the $299 price point. That would be worth a bite.
4060 8GB may then fall down to $249.
Well it's not $10-$20 more in the uk, more like £50. It's also 220W vs 120W so would need a new power supply. It's also well down on features (DLSS being one but there are a number of other nice things Nvidia offers). Finally it's RT support is weak, and who wants to buy a new card that doesn't do RT well - Son plays cyberpunk so first thing he did was run it up and turn on all the options (other than path tracing, although even that runs ok with a mod) and it looks and runs great.You literally complained the 6700 XT isn't Nvidia. Where are you at? Because in the US the 6700 XT can often be found for like $10 to $20 more than the 4060.
and textures, you gotta like textures.The 6700XT is a bit more specialist - you gotta not like RT or upscaling and want to focus on raster only games at 1440p.
and textures, you gotta like textures.
I'm very curious to see how Nvidia handles marketing for the 4060Ti 16GB.
I know what can be done to make the 16GB look good, but marketing reps also need to justify the existence of the base model. So I'm curious if they'll manage to have the cake and eat it too.They will use Ultra textures to show the 4060Ti does not fall off a cliff in performance.
and textures, you gotta like textures.
I'm very curious to see how Nvidia handles marketing for the 4060Ti 16GB.
I know what can be done to make the 16GB look good, but marketing reps also need to justify the existence of the base model. So I'm curious if they'll manage to have the cake and eat it too.
Yes. Textures are tied to resolution - you don't actually need the textures designed for 4k at 1080p, even more so if you are using DLSS/FSR which means you are probably rendering at 720p. So yes a 1440p card needs better textures which needs more memory but that's not really necessary at 1080p.and textures, you gotta like textures.
I'm very curious to see how Nvidia handles marketing for the 4060Ti 16GB.
This is absolute nonsense. That's not how rasterization, texture mapping, and filtering works. Unless you play games standing perfectly still with your face planted right against a wall, like a desktop picture.Textures are tied to resolution - you don't actually need the textures designed for 4k at 1080p, even more so if you are using DLSS/FSR which means you are probably rendering at 720p
Detailed is detailed. You can turn the texture quality to highest even at 1080p. Totally up to you whether it's worth it or not. Maybe on a small screen like a laptop, lower quality textures may not be noticeable but any display size above 15 inches with 1080p will make low quality textures stick out like a sore thumb.Yes. Textures are tied to resolution
My biggest problem with 8GB cards in 2023 is that they're a bet on getting well optimized console ports as we enter the second half of the current console gen. Which is IMO a sucker's bet, as ports to PC have for the most part been lousy as long as I have been gaming, usually requiring you to brute force performance with better than console hardware. The XBox Series X has a segmented memory architecture where 10GB of RAM is much faster than the other 6GB, so that's used as the VRAM. Last year I bought a 12GB card (6700 XT) because I'm expecting ports to PC to remain poorly optimized the same way they have been the last 40 years, and thus I wanted to be above that 10GB mark and with a little headroom without spending $500 on a gpu to get to the 16GB mark at the time. Same reason in 2014 that I spent $20 more on a 4C/8T Xeon E3-1231v3 instead of the hot gaming cpu of the time (the 4C/4T i5-4690k) so I'd get 8 hardware threads to better match the octacores in the consoles since wide parallelization was an absolute necessity to get games running well on the last gen consoles given how low the clockspeed and IPC were on the Jaguar cores. And sure enough 4C/8T cpus aged a lot better than the 4C/4T ones in the second half of last console gen. I expect to see similar with >10GB vs 8GB. We have already seen it this year with ports like The Last of Us, Hogwarts Legacy, and Forspoken. PC first devs like CD Projekt Red, Bethesda, id, Remedy, and Techland will optimize to make 8GB work but I don't trust console first devs to do the same.Well it's not $10-$20 more in the uk, more like £50. It's also 220W vs 120W so would need a new power supply. It's also well down on features (DLSS being one but there are a number of other nice things Nvidia offers). Finally it's RT support is weak, and who wants to buy a new card that doesn't do RT well - Son plays cyberpunk so first thing he did was run it up and turn on all the options (other than path tracing, although even that runs ok with a mod) and it looks and runs great.
If you are playing at 1080p the 4060 is a well balanced card. The 6700XT is a bit more specialist - you gotta not like RT or upscaling and want to focus on raster only games at 1440p. If that's you well great, but don't rage at everyone else.
You don't know where he is, and what outlets he shops.
For Example: I'm in Canada, and only willing to buy a GPU from Amazon.ca (not their 3rd party market either) for simplicity in returns and overall trustworthiness. Prices at Amazon.ca have been fairly in line with performance.
I have a big wish list of AMD and NVidia GPUs and it's the first link I check each morning looking for deals.
I've never seen a RX 6700 (non XT) in stock. At Amazon it's a unicorn.
Prices are in Canadian Dollars:
On the AMD side:
Best Priced RX 67x0 option is the 6750 XT for $539.
Next step down is:
RX 7600 for $369, Which has a better price than the cheapest 6650 Xt at $392.
For the Step up:
6800XT for $793, there are no Amazon sold RX 6800 (A card I would be interested in), but even a third party is selling for an unpalatable $699, and it was kind of lucky to see a 6800XT in stock at all.
On the NVidia side:
4060 Ti - $539 - Essentially equal performance and price with the 6750 Xt.
4060 - $419 - Though these just entered the system and there is only 2. Wait a few days and the should fall to $399 vs $369 for the 7600, but for now the price difference may make the RX 7600 the winner.
4070 - $804 vs $793 for the 6800XT.
So here at least. At each performance tier, the price difference between AMD and NVidia is quite small, so then it becomes a battle of features, and NVidia wins the battle of features IMO.
Get away with changing the irrelevant things like names of chips. How nefarious.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti with 16GB memory launches on July 18th - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA RTX 4060 Ti to get 16GB option on July 18th Two reputable hardware leakers have confirmed that the RTX 4060 Ti 16GB will be launching in less than two weeks. Based on the latest information, the RTX 4060 Ti, featuring an increased memory buffer, is scheduled to hit the shelves on July...videocardz.com
The 4060 Ti 16 GB's release is July 18th, according to Videocardz.
Still it's 16GB for CUDA applications. For $500. They won't have to discount that model.
How long before they realize they are "losing" money this way and make the necessary "updates" to the consumer drivers to slow down AI CUDA applications, to upsell their professional parts?Yeah I was thinking exactly that, especially WRT Deep Learning applications.
I'd trade my citizenship for crappy Canadian citizenship tbh. Would be nice to live in a country run by responsible adults instead of banks and corporations.Sorry you live in a crappy country.
Dunno about that. A friend went there and he had to work three jobs just to survive, all in different places and had to use the train to commute. He hardly got four hours of sleep per day. He decided against staying there for citizenship.I'd trade my citizenship for crappy Canadian citizenship tbh. Would be nice to live in a country run by responsible adults instead of banks and corporations.
Oh you're in for a shock.I'd trade my citizenship for crappy Canadian citizenship tbh. Would be nice to live in a country run by responsible adults instead of banks and corporations.
Oh you're in for a shock.
Funny. He's also a GeminiOnly if that Trump Wannabe Poilievre gets into power.