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CP5670

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At this point I am just hoping Ryzen 5000 + RTX 3000 laptops don't fall to scalperitis as well. That might be straight-up more cost-effective than building a desktop the way things are going...

The OEM desktops with these cards are actually not that hard to get. I think something like this is a better deal than spending $2000 on a 3090 by itself. If I didn't already have an existing desktop, I would definitely buy an OEM one over a custom build.
 
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Given GPU scarcity I doubt there will be any supply of 3060 either. To be honest I'm not sure why would nVidia even bother right now since everything is selling like hotcakes. It's the worst one I've ever seen, even worse than 2017. I was at microcenter today, the isle where GPUs normally are was almost completely empty, the whole isle. There were only 5-6 cards left in the entire isle, and those were 1050ti and 1650 supers. Nothing else.
 

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The OEM desktops with these cards are actually not that hard to get. I think something like this is a better deal than spending $2000 on a 3090 by itself. If I didn't already have an existing desktop, I would definitely buy an OEM one over a custom build.

Curious what actual GPU it has. I demo'd an HP desktop last year for work that had a 2060 in it and it had the absolute worst cooler I had every seen in my life, was lighter than a Zotac 1650 and instantly throttled to slower than base spec'd frequencies under load. If it's an actual reference card, or decent AIB, then yeah, but if it's garbage like I've seen before, that's a nope for me.
 

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Curious what actual GPU it has. I demo'd an HP desktop last year for work that had a 2060 in it and it had the absolute worst cooler I had every seen in my life, was lighter than a Zotac 1650 and instantly throttled to slower than base spec'd frequencies under load. If it's an actual reference card, or decent AIB, then yeah, but if it's garbage like I've seen before, that's a nope for me.

It's some custom HP 3-fan design, but looks pretty big in the picture. Alienware has a custom design as well, which is a 2-fan setup that seems worse than any of the retail cards.
 

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Availability of the 3060 is going to be so great. nVidia is bringing back the 2060 and 2060 Super.
 

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Availability of the 3060 is going to be so great. nVidia is bringing back the 2060 and 2060 Super.
Is this some sort of joke? According to the article, the RTX 2060 will be $300, and the RTX 2060 Super will be $400, slotting in ABOVE the 3060 at $329.

It should be noted that the 3060 is produced at TSMC, or was, and the 3060 at Samsung. Are yields that bad at Samsung?

It should be noted that the RTX 2060 and RTX 2060 Super are produced on 12nm at TSMC, whereas the RTX 3060 and the rest of the 30-series Ampere cards are produced at Samsung (except for the GA100?).
 
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Is this some sort of joke? According to the article, the RTX 2060 will be $300, and the RTX 2060 Super will be $400, slotting in ABOVE the 3060 at $329.

It should be noted that the 3060 is produced at TSMC, or was, and the 3060 at Samsung. Are yields that bad at Samsung?

For second there I was like, woah, 3060 at TSMC? Like 7nm? Then I realized you meant 2060 and was disappointed. It doesn't have anything to do with yields, I don't think - just that there is a likely a lot 12nm TSMC capacity and they just hit the "reorder" button on a proven card and integration system. There was no need to do any silicon work at all.

If they had done a die shrink of Turing to something like TSMC 7nm or anything interesting it would be news.

Heck, 2060S @ $300? I mean, yeah, that's at least something.

But to "relaunch" them by really just filling the channel again? :/ Probably looking all these 1660 cards they're still selling and turned it up again.

I wanted to start a thread on this separate, different take - RDNA2 on the best 12nm GloFo has to offer? I mean, something feature complete and newer than Polaris to sell?
 

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Maybe sooner if the price of Ethereum drops and/or Nvidia fixes their supply chain issues.


Hopefully Etherium goes Proof of Stake soon, so it will reduce GPU demand.

It would be funny if AMD reintroduced Polaris, especially since it's made at Global Foundries chip so it wouldn't be as supply constrained as much as the ones at TSMC.
 

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Hopefully Etherium goes Proof of Stake soon, so it will reduce GPU demand.

It would be funny if AMD reintroduced Polaris, especially since it's made at Global Foundries chip so it wouldn't be as supply constrained as much as the ones at TSMC.

- If there was ever a time for NV and AMD to go all in on rebranding lower end volume parts... it would be right now. Call the 2060's the 3050Ti and 3050 and get them to market ASAP. Take Polaris (since Navi 1 is unfortunately TSMC 7nm, it would just be competing with RDNA2 dies) call it the 6300XT and shovel it out the door.

Both companies are likely a bit gun shy after the first mining boom with being stuck with a ton of unsold inventory, but the risk is much lower with older parts than it is with current gen ones.
 
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Hopefully Etherium goes Proof of Stake soon, so it will reduce GPU demand.

It would be funny if AMD reintroduced Polaris, especially since it's made at Global Foundries chip so it wouldn't be as supply constrained as much as the ones at TSMC.

They probably still have a pile of Polaris cards laying about given how long they were selling them and how little they changed their product stack for a stretch of several years.

I suppose if they can sell all of them for the $400+ they were fetching in the last mining boom there's no reason not to do so. Hell if they sold them all at MSRP maybe the miners would stay away from all the newer cards.
 
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