Question Nvidia apologizes? Fact or fiction?

[aleader]

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-3080-apologies/

For real or was this a planned statement?

 

[traderjay]

Why do you think it is fake? These parasites hurt everyone but themselves. For every scalper that resells a card, its 100% lost revenue for nvidia, AIB and legit retailers.

I think it should be pretty easy to weed out the bots order by looking at how long it took to complete the online transactions because humans can't do that in under 1 second.

 

[aleader]

Well, Nvidia is a multi-billion dollar organization that SHOULD have known this was going to happen (bots, etc). The fact that they seem so ill-prepared may indicate that this was their intention all along. They already got us used to higher prices with the 20-series.

 

[otho11]

Could they not have delayed the release day until they had more units to sell? The way they went about it increased the hype through short supply

 

[Kenmitch]

Could they not have delayed the release day until they had more units to sell? The way they went about it increased the hype through short supply

And take the risk that Big Navi is trully competitive....Are you crazy?

Better to launch with low supply and if anybody asks just say the pent up demand was way greater then anticipated.

 

[aleader]

Wow, lots of 'rules' on this site. Here is a video I think you should look at (57:41):

You need to add your own original written content to your posts - a timestamp on a video is not sufficient.

AT Moderator ElFenix

 

[amenx]

At first I thought oh redacted another conspiracy thread. But then I recall some arguments made about how expensive the cooler is on the FE (IgorLabs says $150). Therefore would not be surprised if Nvidia did not produce much of the FE and relying on AIBs to do the bulk of sales.

Secondly, FE's aside, we dont know what the state of retail inventories will be a month or so from now. It could be fine. Not the first time we've seen stock unavailability after GPU launches.

Profanity is not allowed in the tech areas.

AT Mod Usandthem

 

[mindless1]

EDIT: Removed inappropriate content.

Why do you think it is fake? These parasites hurt everyone but themselves. For every scalper that resells a card, its 100% lost revenue for nvidia,

?? nVidia sells out so they make the maximum revenue possible at the price set, then the scalpers set a higher price so nVidia can come back and sell even more at that lower price than the scalpers set.

That is unless you believe this is a conspiracy where nvidia set a low price for good pr then sneakily bought them all up themselves to reoffer at a higher price? In that case it'd be even higher revenue for nVidia.

I get the feeling that there is some south park gnomes and underpants theme at play here, though it is a crazy situation to begin with, people so desperate for something to complete their life (which won't) that they'd pay a premium for what everyone else will have a few months later and be tossed aside as rubbish a few years after that.

Hey everyone, lets keep politics out of the tech sections. These are the rules. Thanks, -AT Mod Shmee

 

[Dribble]

At first I thought oh shit, another conspiracy thread. But then I recall some arguments made about how expensive the cooler is on the FE (IgorLabs says $150). Therefore would not be surprised if Nvidia did not produce much of the FE and relying on AIBs to do the bulk of sales.

Secondly, FE's aside, we dont know what the state of retail inventories will be a month or so from now. It could be fine. Not the first time we've seen stock unavailability after GPU launches.

The only thing that's expensive about that cooler is the design work it took to create it, other then that it's just a 2 fan metal cooler. The AIB ones if anything will be more expensive as they are bigger heavier 3 fan designs.

 

[Grooveriding]

I thought I'd get a 3080 instead of 3090 because I don't even play at 4K. I think this was a true soft soft soft launch. The cards are unicorns. Other card launches, you generally just have to be a bit of a tech nerd and camp your browser for launch day and you'll get one. No chance with these things, instantly out of stock. I don't think they had many cards ready.

 

[AtenRa]

Heh they probably didnt even had 5k cards globally.

That was just a paper launch to get cards first before the competition.

 

[xpea]

Heh they probably didnt even had 5k cards globally.

That was just a paper launch to get cards first before the competition.

Look at this :

starting at 14 minutes. Nvidia had reasonable stock (over 100k for sure) but the demand was the highest ever for a video card. Totally insane...

 

[aleader]

Nvidia had reasonable stock (over 100k for sure) but the demand was the highest ever for a video card. Totally insane...

I do love his videos. He hits it right on the head. On Nvidia, they SHOULD have known. Everyone and their dog has been hyping this thing for months, especially the last month. Nerds are cooped up, obviously in an empty-headed buying frenzy judging by the still stupid prices for used cards people are paying, and a LOT of people (myself included) skipped the 20 series for obvious reasons. Nvidia knew this by their own admission.

Call it 'conspiracy' or whatever you want (that seems to be what people call things now when they don't want to have to think too much). I just think it's corporate 'gaming' (pardon the pun) at it's *best* and they are playing everyone like a fiddle.

 

[AtenRa]

Look at this :

starting at 14 minutes. Nvidia had reasonable stock (over 100k for sure) but the demand was the highest ever for a video card. Totally insane...

axaxaxaxa are you serious ??? over 100k of RTX3080 in just a few seconds ???

NVDIA said 50 major global retailers had inventory of RTX3080 and we know that the highest inventory of large stores in the US didnt have more than 80-100 pieces each. That makes not more than 5K units globally.

And one more thing,

We know that STEAM had 95 Million active users in 2019 and RTX2080Super that has the same MSRT as RTX3080 only has a 0.80% of all GPUs in latest August Steam Hardware survey.
That means that there are approximately 760.000 to 800.000 RTX2080 Super users on Steam that got accumulated in the span of 12-13 months and now you are telling us that they sold 100K in just a few seconds ???

They just paper launch the card in order to have launch first before the competition, simple as that.

 

[Hitman928]

The real telling information will be how well the cards come back in stock in the coming days and weeks. It's impossible to tell how many were actually in stock on launch day but if they don't come back in stock over the next week or are still impossible to find over the next couple of months, then that's a much clearer indication of low supply.

 

[aigomorla]

Scalpers always ruin stuff for us gamers.
3080 cards were sold out i hear before they even hit shelves and people lined up in lines close to what black friday used to be.
Sigh... i guess i am definitely going to wait until stock is sufficient to get my 3090, as i feel that will be in the same boat.

Also i hear people are wrecking scalpers on ebay with bots to artificially inflate bids later to be not paid.

Nvidia RTX 3080 cards are selling for thousands on eBay, and people are pissed

The RTX 3080 has been a disaster, and eBay scalpers are now trying to cash in.

www.theverge.com

NVidia is also trying to do something as well, as cards they sold only to be resold and not used for feedback is probably hurting them as well. However i call BS.
Nvidia's storefront partner i believe which is water something, is horrible.
They are worse then some shady chinese wish.com shops i have done business with, and will/would never do business with them ever again.

Nvidia Is Manually Reviewing RTX 3080 Orders to Stop Scalpers

'To stop bots and scalpers on the Nvidia store, we’re doing everything humanly possible, including manually reviewing orders, to get these cards in the hands of legitimate customers,' Nvidia says.

www.pcmag.com

 

[VirtualLarry]

Call it 'conspiracy' or whatever you want (that seems to be what people call things now when they don't want to have to think too much). I just think it's corporate 'gaming' (pardon the pun) at it's *best* and they are playing everyone like a fiddle.

Just like the 'limited shipments' of the Nintendo Wii Console when it came out... "gotta keep the hype machine going!".

At least (from a mining perspective), the NVidia 3080 doesn't even impress me at all. I wasn't in the market, although it appears to be a gaming powerhouse, at least compared to the (overpriced) Turing generation.

 

[loki1944]

Nvidia keeps increasing revenue every year; this will not affect them one bit. They have majority market share and are the premium products at the same time; an enviable position. Their marketing strategy has seen nothing but continued success.

 

[AtenRa]

This architecture screams Compute, I will bet that Ampere will create more revenue/profits in Server/HP and ML than gaming.

 

[jpiniero]

Don't forget about miners.

 

[Mopetar]

If the card supply is that low (no one really knows and 5,000 globally just feels like a really bad lowball estimate) why not just have an actual paper launch where the reviews all come out while building up enough stock?

Sure you'll catch flak for even doing a paper launch, but you catch it all the same when it's effectively a paper launch only there are cards if you'll only pay the ransom for them.

There's no way around this issue other than having so much supply that any scalpers can't resell at a markup. Of course there are business goals and other factors to weigh against that. Pascal only went off so well because AMD was basically incapable of competition at that time so NVidia could wait longer and had no real pressure on them.

 

[Stuka87]

starting at 14 minutes. Nvidia had reasonable stock (over 100k for sure) but the demand was the highest ever for a video card. Totally insane...

Your nuts if you think nVidia had even remotely close to that. Most estimates put it at around 5,000 for the entire world. 50 retailers were selling them (per nVidia), many B&M stores only had 10-20 unites. Online retailers would have had more, but not ten's of thousands more.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Your nuts if you think nVidia had even remotely close to that. Most estimates put it at around 5,000 for the entire world. 50 retailers were selling them (per nVidia), many B&M stores only had 10-20 unites. Online retailers would have had more, but not ten's of thousands more.

The one number GN was able to quote was a System Integrator, and they sold 900 systems with Ampere cards, so I think your estimate is a bit light.

 

[aigomorla]

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[ozzy702]

The one number GN was able to quote was a System Integrator, and they sold 900 systems with Ampere cards, so I think your estimate is a bit light.

Exactly. If ONE system integrator sold 900 cards that quickly, the 5,000 number that keeps floating around is pure rubbish. It may not be 100k, but tens of thousand are likely.