Nvidia are on a roll

[otispunkmeyer]

they really are

g80 is just spectacular and we wont be hearing from the red team (well slightly less luminous shade of green team) untill well into next year.

they've duped us and blown us all away with a unified architecture thats been 4 years in the making, and pretty much desgined by hand by engineers and not just mapped from a software program. thats a pretty good run.

not only that, they get the new 6 series chipsets out the door for intels C2D's and they are just the best performing chipsets you can get......the memory controller is easily as good as intels 975, and the overclocks on the 680i are insane 2100 FSB!

NV are the small guys now, but theyre sure as well ready to fight

 

[tuteja1986]

Where are the game , its an nice E penis extension... Spend $600 to play what ? ... Nvidia ain't small guys they are big. Nvidia ain't the 1st company to introduce unified architecture , it was ATI's GPU in the XBOX 360. Nvidia last year was so verbally against the unified architecture. Then suddenly the bashing from their head engineering about Unified architecture stopped arround feb 06.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Where are the game , its an nice E penis extension... Spend $600 to play what ? ... Nvidia ain't small guys they are big.

who cares about the games?

the majority simply dont buy because they need, they buy because they want, and probably because they can

yeah they are a big company but surely intel are bigger, as are AMD/ATi

 

[Conky]

Nvidia is hardly the small guy but they are smacking ATI like Intel smacked AMD.

I can't wait for the prices to come down to earth because there is no way I am paying $600+ for a videocard.

The new 680i SLI mobo chipset is a good thing although I am gonna wait a bit on that too just because the prices always drop within a couple weeks of a brand new release and it looks like every mobo maker and his brother are gonna have a 680i SLI board.

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Where are the game , its an nice E penis extension... Spend $600 to play what ? ... Nvidia ain't small guys they are big.

who cares about the games?

the majority simply dont buy because they need, they buy because they want, and probably because they can

yeah they are a big company but surely intel are bigger, as are AMD/ATi

Ohh god so now we buy these expensive GPU for :?

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Not to mention how great IMO the 7 series was

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Beachboy
Nvidia is hardly the small guy but they are smacking ATI like Intel smacked AMD.

I can't wait for the prices to come down to earth because there is no way I am paying $600+ for a videocard.

The new 680i SLI mobo chipset is a good thing although I am gonna wait a bit on that too just because the prices always drop within a couple weeks of a brand new release and it looks like every mobo maker and his brother are gonna have a 680i SLI board.

It's ironic how quickly people forget

Never mind that A64 walked over everything intel had to offer from launch until C2D, how long was that?

We've been here before (with r300 and less spectacularly the 6800 series), but this time there isn't that killer game or games that need the extra horsepower for most people (1280 max res i would imagine is by far and away the most common gaming resolution), whereas you NEEDED a 6800 to play farcry at standard monitor resolutions with AA and AF, the 9800XT couldn't manage any more than 1024 with max details and 2xAA/8xAF...when the next crop of games rolls around would be the time to buy into G80 imho, you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now especially if you've already got an x19x0xt/x/79x0/SLI/CF in there...

G80 is awesome, make no mistake, i'd better get that out there before someone storms into this thread and accuses me of being a rabid ati fanboy

On a closing note, anyone who thinks nvidia are some romantic david in a battle against goliath need smacking upside the head

 

[josh6079]

One thing to consider though is the fact that G80 is the first DX10 GPU yet there are still no Vista drivers for it. I don't think Vista beta users are happy about that.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: josh6079
One thing to consider though is the fact that G80 is the first DX10 GPU yet there are still no Vista drivers for it. I don't think Vista beta users are happy about that.

I'd like ocing support from nvidia in vista too

 

[josh6079]

...you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now especially if you've already got an x19x0xt/x/79x0/SLI/CF in there...

Why? CrossFire and SLI both cause a hoard of problems depending on the game and you'd get better performance on the average without the dual-GPU problems. Not to mention it spanks an R580.

People say there are no demanding titles out, but just because there isn't a popular shooter that is making it cry doesn't mean that there isn't a game that could use its power. NWN2 and Gothic 3 could definitely benefit from a G80, and I don't know about you, but I'd like being able to handle any game I have with the highest possible settings they offer and still have room for games that are due to come. Who wouldn't want one right now?

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: josh6079

...you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now especially if you've already got an x19x0xt/x/79x0/SLI/CF in there...

Why? CrossFire and SLI both cause a hoard of problems depending on the game and you'd get better performance on the average without the dual-GPU problems. Not to mention it spanks an R580.

People say there are no demanding titles out, but just because there isn't a popular shooter that is making it cry doesn't mean that there isn't a game that could use its power. NWN2 and Gothic 3 could definitely benefit from a G80, and I don't know about you, but I'd like being able to handle any game I have with the highest possible settings they offer and still have room for games that are due to come. Who wouldn't want one right now?

NWN 2 your kidding ;( the graphic in that rpg are terrible , they look 2 years old. Gothic 3 works just fine at 1600x1200 8xAA 16xAF @ X1900XTX 512MB / 7900GTX.

 

[Gstanfor]

you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now

No more so than those who bought GF4 Ti4600, 9700 Pro, Geforce 6800 Ultra, 7900 GTX for top dollar when they were new.

Now for an opinion I know will be viewed controversially (but do I care?)
nvidia has never required competition in order to drive them forward IMHO. G80 is proof of this. In fact, as demonstrated with nv3x and nv4x, competition hurts nvidia's ability to deliver the very best quality possible to consumers (I'll guarantee nvidia would never have introduced harmful optimizations the way they did if they were not forced to compete hard against ATi).

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now

No more so than those who bought GF4 Ti4600, 9700 Pro, Geforce 6800 Ultra, 7900 GTX for top dollar when they were new.

Now for an opinion I know will be viewed controversially (but do I care?)
nvidia has never required competition in order to drive them forward IMHO. G80 is proof of this. In fact, as demonstrated with nv3x and nv4x, competition hurts nvidia's ability to deliver the very best quality possible to consumers (I'll guarantee nvidia would never have introduced harmful optimizations the way they did if they were not forced to compete hard against ATi).

What are you smoking ;( ... I don't what goes inside your brain but here is an advice : be more open minded. Also competition is reason why G80 is so great.

 

[Gstanfor]

nvidia were first with a single main chip video card as powerful as the competition (Riva 128), first to useable 32 bit color (TNT), first to offload the graphics pipeline from the cpu (GF256), first to introduce a crossbar memory controller (GF3), first to introduce pixel & vertex shaders (GF3) ... the list goes on and on and on, all the while offering performance equal or better than anything else out there, and they are continuing to do so to this day, with nv3x being the only real stumbling block.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Where are the game , its an nice E penis extension... Spend $600 to play what ? ... Nvidia ain't small guys they are big. Nvidia ain't the 1st company to introduce unified architecture , it was ATI's GPU in the XBOX 360. Nvidia last year was so verbally against the unified architecture. Then suddenly the bashing from their head engineering about Unified architecture stopped arround feb 06.

i didnt mention anything about who was first with unified shaders, i just said that initially we thought nv would stick to seperate shaders...and then bam out came G80

im fully aware of the xenos GPU...afterall i have one and have read up on it

doesnt make the G80 any less spectacular though, console graphics are old hat now lol and thats before the PS3 has even arrived hahahaha

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
nvidia were first with a single main chip video card as powerful as the competition (Riva 128), first to useable 32 bit color (TNT), first to offload the graphics pipeline from the cpu (GF256), first to introduce a crossbar memory controller (GF3), first to introduce pixel & vertex shaders (GF3) ... the list goes on and on and on, all the while offering performance equal or better than anything else out there, and they are continuing to do so to this day, with nv3x being the only real stumbling block.

i think i have to agree here

nvidias best cards have seemingly came from no where or from a cock up....

the G7x and R580 based cards are pretty much neck n neck, even stevens, competition is pretty dead between the two for being out so long. G80 has been 4 odd years in the making so to me that doesnt really look like they were designing to beat the competition....afterall you cant predict the future.

but then on the otherside of the fence, every developement can easily be attributed to competition, you wanna beat the next guy and be the best you gotta make the best stuff.

anyway i still think the best reason to buy G80 is simply becuase people want to , and people can, lifes just a little too short to quibble over wether you need it or not.... if you want something, and you can afford it, buy it.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: josh6079

...you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now especially if you've already got an x19x0xt/x/79x0/SLI/CF in there...

Why? CrossFire and SLI both cause a hoard of problems depending on the game and you'd get better performance on the average without the dual-GPU problems. Not to mention it spanks an R580.

People say there are no demanding titles out, but just because there isn't a popular shooter that is making it cry doesn't mean that there isn't a game that could use its power. NWN2 and Gothic 3 could definitely benefit from a G80, and I don't know about you, but I'd like being able to handle any game I have with the highest possible settings they offer and still have room for games that are due to come. Who wouldn't want one right now?

:bangs head against wall:

At no stage did i say i didn't want one, or that people shouldn't want one.

Having cleared up that misunderstanding you appear to have just made up for your own amusement

If gaming is such an important part of people's lives that they're unwilling to wait a few months to see how things pan out (and you wouldn't exactly be suffering in the mean time if you had a 'last gen' ultra high end card/cards from the benchmarks i've seen, then getting G80 *right now* makes sense for them.

In my opinion you're somewhat silly to go out and grab a G80 *right now* if you've already got an extremely competent card in there already, when it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you could save yourself a lot of money by waiting a month or so for prices to fall, but at the end of the day, i'm not forcing you to agree with me, or discounting the validity of your opinion

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now

No more so than those who bought GF4 Ti4600, 9700 Pro, Geforce 6800 Ultra, 7900 GTX for top dollar when they were new.

Now for an opinion I know will be viewed controversially (but do I care?)
nvidia has never required competition in order to drive them forward IMHO. G80 is proof of this. In fact, as demonstrated with nv3x and nv4x, competition hurts nvidia's ability to deliver the very best quality possible to consumers (I'll guarantee nvidia would never have introduced harmful optimizations the way they did if they were not forced to compete hard against ATi).

What are you smoking ;( ... I don't what goes inside your brain but here is an advice : be more open minded. Also competition is reason why G80 is so great.

competition drives everything, but G80s been on the drawing board for a long time.... so what were they designing this to compete against 4 years ago?

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now

No more so than those who bought GF4 Ti4600, 9700 Pro, Geforce 6800 Ultra, 7900 GTX for top dollar when they were new.

Now for an opinion I know will be viewed controversially (but do I care?)
nvidia has never required competition in order to drive them forward IMHO. G80 is proof of this. In fact, as demonstrated with nv3x and nv4x, competition hurts nvidia's ability to deliver the very best quality possible to consumers (I'll guarantee nvidia would never have introduced harmful optimizations the way they did if they were not forced to compete hard against ATi).

What are you smoking ;( ... I don't what goes inside your brain but here is an advice : be more open minded. Also competition is reason why G80 is so great.

competition drives everything, but G80s been on the drawing board for a long time.... so what were they designing this to compete against 4 years ago?

lol, it doesn't quite 'work like that'.. :rofl;

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

you're on crack paying top dollar for the card now

No more so than those who bought GF4 Ti4600, 9700 Pro, Geforce 6800 Ultra, 7900 GTX for top dollar when they were new.

Now for an opinion I know will be viewed controversially (but do I care?)
nvidia has never required competition in order to drive them forward IMHO. G80 is proof of this. In fact, as demonstrated with nv3x and nv4x, competition hurts nvidia's ability to deliver the very best quality possible to consumers (I'll guarantee nvidia would never have introduced harmful optimizations the way they did if they were not forced to compete hard against ATi).

What are you smoking ;( ... I don't what goes inside your brain but here is an advice : be more open minded. Also competition is reason why G80 is so great.

competition drives everything, but G80s been on the drawing board for a long time.... so what were they designing this to compete against 4 years ago?

I don't know...maybe the equivalent ATI card at the time?

OF course competition drives the video card market, like it drives every other market, and you really do have to smoking crack to think otherwise on this one

 

[Gstanfor]

From the Huang interview I posted in another thread.

Jen-Hsun: We don't need to talk about Fusion in order to get excited. We absolutely have more than we can do right now GPUs and will stay focused there. We are just not working on CPUs. There are a lot of things I am working on. Without any exception, I?m not working on CPUs.

Is just one example. nvidia is too busy evolving their gpu's to care what ATi or anyone else does (and you can see that right through their history - just compare what nvidia deliver architecturally compared to the competition).

There is an element of competition on top of that, granted, but that is taken care of by making sure the architecture has enough grunt to come out on top (only time that really failed them was nv30).

 

[Keysplayr]

Nvidia just turned out the nicest piece of graphics hardware ever seen. Something we all wanted and was the source of ATI/Nvidia flame wars since forever, was an extremely powerful card that also offered damn near perfect image quality, AND the ability to crank the image quality without losing playability. Nvidia has done well here.

Those who can afford it and want it, then buy it. Those that can't afford it, can't buy it and make it sound like it's stupid to buy it now and think up reasons why it's not necessary to buy one. It's actually pretty hysterical to watch all this.

7900GTX/X1950XTX are great, powerful cards, but nobody can sit there and tell me that they can play ever game they own, at highest resolution their monitor will support, with every setting maxxed, 16xAA 16xAF and still be playable. G80 seems to offer this kind of power. No more compromising your settings.

It just appears to me that people just complain no matter what the circumstances are. Usually the complaints are because they can never afford this kind of purchase. Hey, I'm one of the folks who can't afford a G80, but damned if I cant see the merits of owning one.

So, everybody. Don't be idiots.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
From the Huang interview I posted in another thread.

Jen-Hsun: We don't need to talk about Fusion in order to get excited. We absolutely have more than we can do right now GPUs and will stay focused there. We are just not working on CPUs. There are a lot of things I am working on. Without any exception, I?m not working on CPUs.

Is just one example. nvidia is too busy evolving their gpu's to care what ATi or anyone else does (and you can see that right through their history - just compare what nvidia deliver architecturally compared to the competition).

There is an element of competition on top of that, granted, but that is taken care of by making sure the architecture has enough grunt to come out on top (only time that really failed them was nv30).

Huh? Nvidia doesn't care about their competition? Wha?

If it weren't for their competition, they would have no need to enhance their product lines in the first place. They still would, but the incremental changes would be FAR smaller, as there would be no need to get ahead or stay ahead.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Nvidia just turned out the nicest piece of graphics hardware ever seen. Something we all wanted and was the source of ATI/Nvidia flame wars since forever, was an extremely powerful card that also offered damn near perfect image quality, AND the ability to crank the image quality without losing playability. Nvidia has done well here.

Those who can afford it and want it, then buy it. Those that can't afford it, can't buy it and make it sound like it's stupid to buy it now and think up reasons why it's not necessary to buy one. It's actually pretty hysterical to watch all this.

7900GTX/X1950XTX are great, powerful cards, but nobody can sit there and tell me that they can play ever game they own, at highest resolution their monitor will support, with every setting maxxed, 16xAA 16xAF and still be playable. G80 seems to offer this kind of power. No more compromising your settings.

It just appears to me that people just complain no matter what the circumstances are. Usually the complaints are because they can never afford this kind of purchase. Hey, I'm one of the folks who can't afford a G80, but damned if I cant see the merits of owning one.

So, everybody. Don't be idiots.

I'd be interested to see who has said they can't see the merits of owning one?

Personally i would never buy at launch, because we've seen, launch after launch, prices dropping significantly a month or so further down the track. That doesn't mean i can't see how good the card is, just that i'm remotely prudent with my spending habits

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Nvidia just turned out the nicest piece of graphics hardware ever seen. Something we all wanted and was the source of ATI/Nvidia flame wars since forever, was an extremely powerful card that also offered damn near perfect image quality, AND the ability to crank the image quality without losing playability. Nvidia has done well here.

Those who can afford it and want it, then buy it. Those that can't afford it, can't buy it and make it sound like it's stupid to buy it now and think up reasons why it's not necessary to buy one. It's actually pretty hysterical to watch all this.

7900GTX/X1950XTX are great, powerful cards, but nobody can sit there and tell me that they can play ever game they own, at highest resolution their monitor will support, with every setting maxxed, 16xAA 16xAF and still be playable. G80 seems to offer this kind of power. No more compromising your settings.

It just appears to me that people just complain no matter what the circumstances are. Usually the complaints are because they can never afford this kind of purchase. Hey, I'm one of the folks who can't afford a G80, but damned if I cant see the merits of owning one.

So, everybody. Don't be idiots.

Indeed, the Geforce 8800 allows users to run at the settings you stated, but it will not be for long; newer and more advanced games are coming out all the time. Although there is something that needs to be said. As you all know, the 8800 has unified shaders. DX9 does not support this. We will have to wait until DX10 to see the true effect of having them all fully programmable.