While I agree this is a total garbage release, nothing quite says pathetic nerd, as loudly as making spread sheet to "prove" the name of the GPU is wrong.
Daniel Owen makes the case that the 5080 is really a 5070 Ti tier class of GPU. Because if you look at generational improvements, it's the worst x80 series card ever:
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Maxwell was also 28nm HKMG.Same process node this time, right?
well they did, both were 40nm.So imagine Nvidia trying to release the GTX 500 series on the same node as the GTX 400 series.
500 was a Fermi refresh that fixed every 40nm PDK goofup Fermi actual had.The node shrink literally was the GTX 500 series
There was no shrink, but it was also really incremental and launched like 9mo after the Fermi actual.Without it, you'd have the same garbage we see now with the 5000 series
While I agree this is a total garbage release, nothing quite says pathetic nerd, as loudly as making spread sheet to "prove" the name of the GPU is wrong.
Maxwell was also 28nm HKMG.
well they did, both were 40nm.
500 was a Fermi refresh that fixed every 40nm PDK goofup Fermi actual had.
There was no shrink, but it was also really incremental and launched like 9mo after the Fermi actual.
yeah, Maxwell was good.OMG that wasn't a node shrink? It was so much more efficient and everyone loved it. I remembered it as a shrink. Wow.
While I agree this is a total garbage release, nothing quite says pathetic nerd, as loudly as making spread sheet to "prove" the name of the GPU is wrong.
He's not wrong though. If you look at the current branding compared to historic naming conventions, NVidia is selling lesser GPUs under names previously used to indicate greater chips.
He's not wrong though. If you look at the current branding compared to historic naming conventions, NVidia is selling lesser GPUs under names previously used to indicate greater chips.
If you're not picking up on it, imagine Ford releasing a new Mustang only it's actually a Fiesta or whatever their low-end model is these days. They've been watering down their own brand for a while now.
no? there's a small horde of 300-400mm^2 dies in x8 tier. Goes way back when.NVidia is selling lesser GPUs under names previously used to indicate greater chips.
As stated Maxwell wasn't a shrink, rdna wasn't (from Vega20) and iirc rdna2 wasn't as well. All actual improvements on the same node.OMG that wasn't a node shrink? It was so much more efficient and everyone loved it. I remembered it as a shrink. Wow.
Iirc the 8 cards were almost always the big zero die (later refreshes might have had a different die) until the 680 which used the 4 dieno? there's a small horde of 300-400mm^2 dies in x8 tier. Goes way back when.
Things like 780/ti, 3080 or 2080 are outliers.
People doing this whole nerd rage chart stuff should actually try and go back all the way to FX5800.
NV in general has a track record sticking iso node and going for a shrink later.As stated Maxwell wasn't a shrink, rdna wasn't (from Vega20) and iirc rdna2 wasn't as well. All actual improvements on the same node
Yeah but all that matters is the final area commitment which has been 300-400mm^2 with some outliers here and there.Iirc the 8 cards were almost always the big zero die (later refreshes might have had a different die) until the 680 which used the 4 die
bingo.it's a failure because after two years it brought no meaningful improvement over its predecessor.
Not everything new is good and Blackwell is a good example of thisThe long overdue shiny new SM and it's just this.
Oh, I bet Blackwell will also deliver something, like $$ to nVidiaLike RDNA3 was a miss, but at least it delivered something.
it's called navi48.AMD should make a run of 7900xtx on N4P.
God I hope not! We're a bunch of old farts who think ATi Rage, Voodoo and Riva TNT are brands ripe for a comeback.Are we sure they are not just sourcing Anandtech forum discussion in regards to AMD make a new graphics brand to relaunch their consumer gpu operations?
Well we had a Rage comeback with Fury/X, just that it wasn't very good.God I hope not! We're a bunch of old farts who think ATi Rage, Voodoo and Riva TNT are brands ripe for a comeback.
no? there's a small horde of 300-400mm^2 dies in x8 tier. Goes way back when.
Things like 780/ti, 3080 or 2080 are outliers.
People doing this whole nerd rage chart stuff should actually try and go back all the way to FX5800.
No?One has to compare with the flagship of the same generation
Previous flagships of the long bygone era were dual GPU cards, which occasionally shipped over a ret worth of Si.It is very disingenuous to compare mm2 of 70 or 80 class GPU with that of another generation if the flagship got much bigger.