Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

[DiogoDX]

It gets much worse

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Spotted with Missing ROPs, Performance Loss Confirmed

TechPowerUp has discovered that there are NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 graphics cards in retail circulation that come with too few render units, which lowers performance. Zotac's GeForce RTX 5090 Solid comes with fewer ROPs than it should—168 are enabled, instead of the 176 that are part of the RTX...

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disaster

RTX 5089

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Failwell is the gift that keeps on giving.

I'm still waiting on a 5090 for AI hobby projects, but damn this is looking grim.

 

[CP5670]

Dropping 32-bit physx support is completely unacceptable

A few games like Cryostasis and Mirror's Edge would get messed up by this, although even on previous cards the physx doesn't seem to work properly anymore and causes major performance issues.

 

[gdansk]

I hadn't seen it mentioned much but apparently 5090 doesn't support the error correction mode that RTX 3090/4090 did. Despite the titan price it doesn't seem to have that Titan legacy anymore.

Does anyone know if it's a GDDR7 problem or the memory controller itself?

 

[SolidQ]

RTX 5089

You need download DLC to upgrade into 5090!

 

[Win2012R2]

Does anyone know if it's a GDDR7 problem or the memory controller itself?

It's the greed problem

 

[GodisanAtheist]

You need download DLC to upgrade into 5090!

- Click here to download more RAM ROPs for your PC....

 

[moonbogg]

Like I was saying, I expect things to shake out nicely and for Blackwell to really come into it's own right around that traditional 18-36 month mark post release.

 

[AdamK47]

All of my ROPs are accounted for.

 

[SolidQ]

downgrade generation

 

[Thunder 57]

I'm waiting for the PhysX edition, where the 50 series card comes bundled with a 1030.

 

[moonbogg]

Can we expect Nvidia to ditch ray tracing support down the road like they did PhysX? Wasn't PhysX supposed to be the future of realistic gaming where it only got better as time went on? I think ray tracing is just a gimmick to sell Nvidia cards and give themselves an unfair advantage, just like PhysX was.

 

[CakeMonster]

RT is much more more universally supported with different hardware vendors and in DirectX.

 

[poke01]

Can we expect Nvidia to ditch ray tracing support down the road like they did PhysX? Wasn't PhysX supposed to be the future of realistic gaming where it only got better as time went on? I think ray tracing is just a gimmick to sell Nvidia cards and give themselves an unfair advantage, just like PhysX was.

They didn’t ditch PhysX, they ditched 32-bit CUDA.

64-bit PhysX still works. Ray tracing works differently. You know what you should be worried about what if old DLSS won’t be compatible with future cards just because NV says so.

This is why DLSS should be open source. I buy into the PC platform for it backwards compatible, if NV starts acting like Apple then I will go to AMD or Intel whenever they make a card that’s not bad.

 

[moonbogg]

Why did they ditch 32-bit CUDA?

 

[gdansk]

Why did they ditch 32-bit CUDA?

32 bit is dead where CUDA matters.
32 bit PhysX is collateral damage.

 

[Ranulf]

Blackscreen problems with the latest drivers in 30-40 and 50 series cards.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-now-investigating-black-screen-issues-across-rtx-series-gpus

 

[moonbogg]

32 bit is dead where CUDA matters.
32 bit PhysX is collateral damage.

So does anyone actually care about this then? Does anyone actually care if a batman cape goes stiff on a 15 year old game?

 

[gdansk]

So does anyone actually care about this then? Does anyone actually care if a batman cape goes stiff on a 15 year old game?

Who knows. They bought Nvidia but can't play the game The Way It's Meant to Be Played. Could be a bit upsetting.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Blackscreen problems with the latest drivers in 30-40 and 50 series cards.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-now-investigating-black-screen-issues-across-rtx-series-gpus

-NV is just shaking out 20 years of clean launches in one go with Blackwell then are they?

 

[gdansk]

-NV is just shaking out 20 years of clean launches in one go with Blackwell then are they?

Their launches are often messy. I had problems with my RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 3080. But they fixed the issues with patches over the months. I guess people often forget because they have fixed things quickly.

 

[moonbogg]

Who knows. They bought Nvidia but can't play the game The Way It's Meant to Be Played. Could be a bit upsetting.

Anyone who bought a 50 series card over msrp get's what they deserve.

 

[gdansk]

Anyone who bought a 50 series card over msrp get's what they deserve.

More permanent harm to the graphics card pricing? The window keeps shifting.

 

[Mopetar]

Boycotts never work.

He just wants everyone else to hold off buying one so the price drops back down to MSRP.

Not a bad idea actually. Everyone should boycott Nvidia and AMD should release the 9070 XT for $650.

 

[AdamK47]

News report state there aren't any 64-bit PhysX titles. Not true.

GPU PhysX works on my 5090 with Arkham Knight. It's 64-bit and uses the 64-bit PhysX DLL.