Golgatha
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We lack one data point, does the 4090 leave room for the 4060 underneath?Also, I was very surprised to see the 5070 Ti + 4060 configuration beat my 4090 overall!
Yeah, that irked me too, but no, the 4090 completely blocks the available PCIe 4x slot, whereas the 5070 Ti does not.We lack one data point, does the 4090 leave room for the 4060 underneath?
*hint* riser *hint*Yeah, that irked me too, but no, the 4090 completely blocks the available PCIe 4x slot, whereas the 5070 Ti does not.
For real and I think one would notice a 43 FPS dip during a playthrough, where 80 FPS min is still silky smooth all the time.^^^ THIS is why I love the community here!
Clearly even a 1030 helps a lot too vs. no dedicated PhysX card.
Additional data if possible. Can you check how much the 1030 and 4060 were being utilized as shown in GPU-Z or Windows Task Manager?
Ooo, I don't have one of those, but that's an excellent idea for a work around!*hint* riser *hint*
Yes, I'm convinced by my data that the GT 1030 doesn't have enough muscle for the task. I just happened to have it around and figured something was better than nothing, and it definitely was. It shows how much offload from the CPU it takes too. Batman Arkham City recommended a RX 460 for a dedicated PhysX card, and the RX 460 totally annihilates the GT 1030 in gaming, so the PhysX performance outcome is pretty expected in hindsight.Very interesting find, and it relates strongly with the choices made by the poster in that reddit thread: the GT 1030 was considered but ultimately RTX 3050 won as being the safer choice with more compute muscle. Turns out it was a better choice.
Nvidia with their BILLIONS can't support 32-bit code anymore? Nope. They just don't want to. For whatever reason. It's them giving the middle finger to gamers. That's all.
So that's why 3050 6GBs are going up in price! The high rollers aren't content with overpaying for RTX 5090s they also want a side piece.
I ordered an MSRP PNY 5070 Ti for CA$1090 from Best Buy on launch day. It's now delisted and the page shows product not found. The only 5070 Ti's BB Canada still has listed at $1320 and $1350, so $230 and $260 over MSRP. They obviously have the flexibility to move prices down if they need, but at least at the moment "MSRP" is just a marketing gimmick.I went to Microcenter today for a bundle.
While there, I saw a short line forming. Maybe 7 people behind a blue tape line on the floor. This was about 2:40.
I asked an associate what was up. He said “We might be releasing 50 series cards at 3”
“Might be?”
“Yes.”
So I asked my daughter to look at computer cases and I stood in line. One guy already had a 5080? Anyway, dude comes out at 3 and says they’ve got two 5090s and some 5070ti. First two guys hustle off with associates and the guy is like “anyone here for anything but the 5090?” Everyone ahead of me grumbles and I say I am down for whatever they’ve got, and ask which model. He tells me we have to go to the back and he’ll bring it out. It’s an Asus model.
“Is that an MSRP model? I know it was an Asus model that was?” ( I might have bought this.)
“No, let me bring it up on the computer. We had like two total of those come in that were $900 but on “on sale”, I thinks this is $999.”
Yep, it was the TUF2 model so I turned it down and my daughter and I walked out with a case, a 9700x bundle and some power strips
I thought the “we had like 2 of those total” was exactly what we had suspectd.
The two guys walking around clutching their 5090s looked super excited and they were Gigabytes, so they might have been MSRP models. I would have been excited too.
Glad you got one at MSRP though! Nice work!I ordered an MSRP PNY 5070 Ti for CA$1090 from Best Buy on launch day. It's now delisted and the page shows product not found. The only 5070 Ti's BB Canada still has listed at $1320 and $1350, so $230 and $260 over MSRP. They obviously have the flexibility to move prices down if they need, but at least at the moment "MSRP" is just a marketing gimmick.
The hardware no longer runs 32b CUDA/nvptx/SASS/whatever binaries.how is that physically possible?
And how old 32 bit games still work then?The hardware no longer runs 32b CUDA/nvptx/SASS/whatever binaries.
They're not CUDA. They're HLSL/GLSL.And how old 32 bit games still work then?
Ah I see, makes sense, so then there must have been some arch changes in Blackwell and it's all backwards it seemsThey're not CUDA. They're HLSL/GLSL.
They're not CUDA. They're HLSL/GLSL.
nvptx exposes a helluva lot more of the machine model than DXIL ever does.CUDA is shipped as a PTX intermediate representation
No they offed something in the bare metal ISA that no longer lets 32b ptx to be lowerable.They could absolutely support it on newer hardware if they chose to.