The 5070 is selling alright in Murica. Course a lot of that is because it's basically the only game in town.
I personally do not like the Fake MSRP thing. But I suppose they could do that again with the 5060 Ti.
FWIW, as of writing this 12+ hours later 9 of those 10 MSRP 5070's that are available for shipping across Canada are still sitting in stock.
Are you seriously basing the actual performance on Geekbench?+14% over 4060 Ti would put it a little faster than 3070 Ti at 1440p. 6% more SM than 4060 Ti though, so if you were expecting a big gain you're probably looking at disappointment.
This time it's different™ ...Nah, people will just blame their Ryzen CPUs and say AMD is screwing them again.
20ish at 1440, and the 5070 is pretty marginal as a 4k card. As you say, the 5070 also had 25% higher TDP than the 4070.Are you seriously basing the actual performance on Geekbench?
There is no reason why the gain should be any lower than what RTX 5070 has over RTX 4070( +25% at 4K TPU).
Actually, It should be even higher, because 4060Ti was BW starved.
P.S. Ok, If they don't increase TDP(TBP), then performance increase could be worse than expected
Ok, 5070 saw a 21% increase at 1440p, but don't forget 4060Ti was BW starved.20ish at 1440, and the 5070 is pretty marginal as a 4k card. As you say, the 5070 also had 25% higher TDP than the 4070.
They can obviously make the 5060 Ti a 200W card too, but really 14-15% vs 20% doesn't really change the overall calculus there.
256bit with 16GB...they're calling that a 5070 Ti these days.Oh yeah, I totally expect we will now get the 3070ti 16GB they didn’t want to give us before.
I meant we could have had this performance since the 3070 ti release in June 2021 easily had nvidia chosen to do so.256bit with 16GB...they're calling that a 5070 Ti these days.
Then what's the point of the 5060 Ti? Equally garbage if that's the route we are taking.aged well 3070ti is low perf card for 4k and 16GB would help none, other to post at forum you have 16G on it
What?you are free to make company and make 200$ card and show how NV is bad, you get new feature as new tech allow it now, there is no where to push power anymore... expecting 50% per generation is just not possible anymore understand that first
I meant we could have had this performance since the 3070 ti release in June 2021 easily had nvidia chosen to do so.
It could have simply had 16 gbps GDDR6 and 16GB of it. A step up in bandwidth and capacity over the 3070. No GDDR6X needed.
It would have been a card that aged so darn well. It would have been the card to get for a while, if the price had been sane.
Instead, no.
Totally, just frustrating that so many folks could have had card with legs instead of an awkward card that was purposefully neutered to die in its target "enthusiast" customer segment too soon.But it would have made the 4070 Ti look bad, if we are to assume having it be AD104 was the plan all along.
Kind of the same deal here. Even assuming it's a Fake MSRP, the 5060 Ti Super 12 GB can't have an MSRP of more than the 5060 Ti 16 GB.
Totally, just frustrating that so many folks could have had card with legs instead of an awkward card that was purposefully neutered to die in its target "enthusiast" customer segment too soon.
A distant buddy of mine listed a 2060S for a good price on FB, and I saw it and bought it. I found out that he was upgrading his monitor to a nice gsync 1440P monitor and so had upgraded to a 3070Ti so that he could really drive it.
I kept my dismay to myself. It was a big upgrade at the time, but knowing how long he normally kept hardware that didn't seem like a great fit.
He's since built a new rig with a 4080S so I guess it all worked out according to plan.
Dreams of a 3080 20GB for $899. That would have been the next 1080 Ti.aged well 3070ti is low perf card for 4k and 16GB would help none, other to post at forum you have 16G on it
That's still RX 7700 level of performance, not bad but also not particularly good.aged well 3070ti is low perf card for 4k and 16GB would help none, other to post at forum you have 16G on it
If the reported pricing is accurate, the 5060Ti 8GB is the odd man out this generation. 4060 Ti having only 8GB sucked, but spending $100 more for the 16GB version made no sense with the 4070 sitting another $100 up the road and offering 30-40% more performance.
If the reported pricing is accurate, the 5060Ti 8GB is the odd man out this generation. 4060 Ti having only 8GB sucked, but spending $100 more for the 16GB version made no sense with the 4070 sitting another $100 up the road and offering 30-40% more performance.
Now we have a couple more years of increased VRAM pressure, you're only saving $50 by limiting yourself to 8GB, and it's a relatively bigger 28% gap from 16GB to the 5070 than the 20% jump from 4060 Ti 16GB to 4070. 8GB should be DOA, and if you're in that price range you should either save a bit more and go 16 or pocket the cash and go with a cheaper 8GB card.
5060Ti 8GB is faster than 4060 Ti 8GB, so the difference vs 5070 can't be the same let alone more unless you talk about 4K or RT on.At Compubase, the 5070 is 60-65% faster than the 4060 Ti 8 GB. So that's likely to continue to be the case if not more.
Keeping the fine tradition of the 1060 3GB and a whole host of DDR4 cards taking advantage of those who don't know any better.I see the 5060Ti 8GB as a prebuilt type card primarily unless the 5060 (non-Ti) is a total dog for some reason...
Bigger issue is that you are limited to 8GB in laptops unless you choose 5070 Ti Laptop 12GB or higher.Keeping the fine tradition of the 1060 3GB and a whole host of DDR4 cards taking advantage of those who don't know any better.