The only card worth buying is the 5090.If it does launch at those prices, I hope consumers flat out reject buying them.
I mean even Intel increased their GPU prices from last gen. Nvidia will definitely increase themIt's not going to be cheaper than the 40 series original MSRP. This is nVidia we are talking about.
Up to a certain price.The only card worth buying is the 5090.
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Depending on the severity of the tariffs they are going to be a very convenient scapegoat.He's just repeating the same predictions/rumors that have been out there for MANY months, and he hasn't even narrowed it down at all - he still has a $500 range on 5090.
Pretty much everyone expects 5090 to be $1999 to $2499. Not many people even argued against this when it showed up months ago. I think it could easily cost $2500.
5080 has long been rumored to be $1200+ as well. Though there is more pushback on this one, I seem to remember discussions here about this months ago, where I argued it will be more like $999, while $1200 is a possibility here, there is really no chance it will be $1500, that would be an even worse mistake than 4080.
This is before the Tariffs kick in. Unknown what those might be...
Nobody is going to give up their margins because of tariffs, they will only go up to make up for aggro and uncertainty, most retailers selling NVIDIA GPUs have very small margins - NVIDIA gets almost all the money.margins should be the best on the high end products
Nobody is going to give up their margins because of tariffs, they will only go up to make up for aggro and uncertainty, most retailers selling NVIDIA GPUs have very small margins - NVIDIA gets almost all the money.
Depending on the severity of the tariffs they are going to be a very convenient scapegoat.
Since tariffs are based on (in my small experience) the cost of the item and not the retail value and the margins should be the best on the high end products with any sane merchandising strategy the high end skus should be the least impacted by tariffs but hey if retailers can up the retail products by an equivalent percentage and everyone just shrugs and lets it happen then the profit in terms of absolute dollars will go up.
Here is what I can say definitively - my container quotes went up a lot just now.
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My quote expired and I got a new one and I was shocked it went from $3,300 estimated landed cost to $5,500. That's before "fees" that magically appear and existing duties, so now I have to budget ~$8k at a minimum vs ~$5k before.
Consider that a 20' container was like $2k before and the 40' was maybe $2,600 - and this doesn't include any fees (I can smell thousands in port congestion fees that get slapped on the container at the last second and are non-negotiable) and this will definitely play into product costs in 2025. I expect that early 2025 landed container prices could easily double. This is just on the threat of tariffs.
This past spring a quoted ~$4k container turned into almost $9k when rates sharply adjusted, congestion fees were added and our container was chosen for inspection (ha, added about $800 to our bill to have our container opened and some of our product destroyed to be proven out to be what we said was).
Again, this impacts lower value cargo than higher value ones, so containers of 5090s will handle this better than 5060's and 3050's depending on packing density.
I've always wondered if stateside packaging would be better for some of this stuff with super high density/safe bulk packaging and then retail boxing it here. My adventures in stateside packaging bulk goods would say no, its still wildly cheaper to have less dense containers and take advantage of inexpensive labor and materials overseas but hey, maybe there's better ways?
Destroyed why? What was it? You mean taken out of packing? And then you let them destroy because it's worthless without packing or is it some law that product for inspection must always be destroyed?some of our product destroyed to be proven out to be what we said was).
Yep, they cut into a carton of product, damaging and destroying the box we would use for shipment. I would think it would be the same for most inspected goods, there will be some loss. It’s not like they are careful or subtle.Destroyed why? What was it? You mean taken out of packing? And then you let them destroy because it's worthless without packing or is it some law that product for inspection must always be destroyed?
Brutes!Yep, they cut into a carton of product, damaging and destroying the box we would use for shipment. I would think it would be the same for most inspected goods, there will be some loss. It’s not like they are careful or subtle.
So it goes, I'd be fine with it if I didn't have to pay so much for the privilege. It's expected to draw the short straw sometimes when importing.Brutes!
I got into a sticky situation when I was young and heeded the "advice" of a friend to cover a few HDDs with carbon paper to protect it from the X-ray inspection machine. They of course took it as suspicious and the guy was ready to cut open the hard drives with his tools when I shouted that they would get destroyed that way. That gave him pause (must've felt the dread in my voice) and then I said let me just give it back to my family to take back home. So I did and my hard drives were "saved".
Personally i think 5080 might be on the cheaper side, given similar number of cores in comparison to 4080, so the additional perf is gonna come mostly from arch improvements and all that AI shenanigans, and faster RAM. So imo 900 - 999 is more likely than 1200 - this not taking tarrifs into consideration.He's just repeating the same predictions/rumors that have been out there for MANY months, and he hasn't even narrowed it down at all - he still has a $500 range on 5090.
Pretty much everyone expects 5090 to be $1999 to $2499. Not many people even argued against this when it showed up months ago. I think it could easily cost $2500.
5080 has long been rumored to be $1200+ as well. Though there is more pushback on this one, I seem to remember discussions here about this months ago, where I argued it will be more like $999, while $1200 is a possibility here, there is really no chance it will be $1500, that would be an even worse mistake than 4080.
This is before the Tariffs kick in. Unknown what those might be...
Take with a grain of salt. Nothing is final until Nvidia announce it, but just saying… totally not beneath them to “leak” a ridiculous price to set expectations low only to offer something somewhat palatable so the masses go wild for it.Could just be Jensen priming the press with ridiculous pricing only to cut 10-20% off these numbers and all of a sudden everyone is cool with it. Then again, there's MSRP... and there's street pricing. Street pricing for the 5090 will likely be in the >$2,000 range.
It's GPU, prices are always set last minute.Nothing is final until Nvidia announce it, but just saying…
But can be tested via leaks just beforeIt's GPU, prices are always set last minute.
Must be having some issues with 5090 manufacturing etc.
Papa Jensen is stockpiling 5090 in the USA before tariffs might kick in, after that selling it for $3k would look cheap...Must be having some issues with 5090 manufacturing etc.
That's how low quality "leakers" get away with rubbish. "It was an Nvidia conspiracy to fish for sentiment"But can be tested via leaks just before