Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

[Hulk]

5070 for $549 with 4090 level performance!!!
Really?

 

[gdansk]

Also I guess AMD backed off because the 5070 is cheaper than expected.

 

[gdansk]

5070 for $549 with 4090 level performance!!!
Really?

With DLSS4, I'm guessing.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

A lot more aggressive than people expected. AMD doesn't have an easy job here.

 

[Hulk]

If this is all true then this is a paradigm price/performance shift in GPUs.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

"RTX 5070 has the same performance as RTX 4090 for $549" *

* - assuming the game uses DLSS + frame gen + frame prediction + neural texture.

So.. it's the bullshit statement of the day.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Well the 5080 is $200 cheaper than I expected. It's fair then excluding parametric yield. Half the die, half the price.

Exactly what I expected. I figured they learned the lesson of 4080 missing the mark. This time, it looks like no duds, and even less competition from AMD.

 

[In2Photos]

Nvidia is so good at marketing. They told us just enough to get everyone excited but no details.

 

[Grooveriding]

So a $400 US price hike on 5090, surprised at 5080’s price.

I don’t believe the performance claims. I expect even the 5080 to be slower than 4090 at times.

 

[insertcarehere]

Huh, isn't that a positive surprise for once..

Don't think RTG is very happy over this..

 

[In2Photos]

The rest of this keynote is pretty cringy though

 

[Hulk]

I was expecting to see a side-by-side demo of the 4090 and 5070 on a few games to back up the extraordinary claim.

Oh, yeah. Nobody is building $10,000 computer and THEN adding GPU cost on top of that. I don't even see how you can get to $10k with client hardware.

 

[SolidQ]

4090 vs 5090

 

[Hulk]

4090 vs 5090

Well that is quite impressive.

 

[Hulk]

I think his new supercomputer has more computation than Lt. Data.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Well that is quite impressive.

What's DLSS 4 doing though?

 

[blckgrffn]

What's DLSS 4 doing though?

Make the FPS number go up

In all seriousness, when will we find out? Later in January?

 

[Heartbreaker]

The rest of this keynote is pretty cringy though

Pretty much the norm. That shield prop which I first thought was some kind of scaled up prop, appears to be 1:1. It's an insane number of Blackwell chips and HBM chips... I could start to believe that thing will become self aware...

 

[SolidQ]

5090 vs 4090

 

[DiogoDX]

What's DLSS 4 doing though?

For the presentation is doing the same as the lossless scaling do and generating more interpolated frames.

 

[SolidQ]

is texture oversharp?

as the lossless scaling do and generating more interpolated frames.

Feeld like when you enable AMD FG + AFMF

 

[IEC]

DLSS 4.0 vs DLSS 3.5. That's bananas to kiwis.

 

[gdansk]

What's DLSS 4 doing though?

DLSS 4 debuts Multi Frame Generation to boost frame rates by using AI to generate up to three frames per rendered frame. It works in unison with the suite of DLSS technologies to increase performance by up to 8x over traditional rendering, while maintaining responsiveness with NVIDIA Reflex technology.

DLSS 4 will be supported on GeForce RTX 50 Series GPUs in over 75 games and applications the day of launch.

NVIDIA Blackwell GeForce RTX 50 Series Opens New World of AI Computer Graphics

NVIDIA today unveiled the most advanced consumer GPUs for gamers, creators and developers — the GeForce RTX™ 50 Series Desktop and Laptop GPUs.

nvidianews.nvidia.com

 

[MoragaBlue]

So, RTX 5080 at $999? Ah, because I assume the 4080 sales were soft at $1,200? My condition remains the same--an 80 series at $799. That's my marker in the sand.

Would a 4080 be worth it at $799? Maybe, with a rebate, which I assume we'll see pretty soon.

 

[Hulk]

What's DLSS 4 doing though?

While WE want to know what's going on, in general it's not super important if the frame rates are there.
If it's AI then we'll never know because we don't actually know what is going on in an AI neural net.