Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

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poke01

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I’m not even getting the super refresh anymore. I’ll wait for N3E RTX60 Geforce cards
 

poke01

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Are you feeling optimistic about pricing because of the 5000 series? But maybe you shouldn't be.
No the supers will be even more expensive. At this point I’ll ride the 4070 super till it dies or if the 60 series is compelling I’ll upgrade
 

Heartbreaker

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Okay I get it. The frame are interpolated so what you are seeing is alway a little behind in time.

I don't like it.

Welcome to the club. I've been complaining since the RTX 40 series launch. It's extremely misleading, and the playbook is identical this time. It's almost cut and paste from last time. The charts are giving me deja vu.

Last time I think they had the 4070 being much faster than 3090 - but of course it was fake frames...
 

Win2012R2

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I’ll lose interest in GPUs if Nvidia or anyone else keep on pulling this BS
DLSS3 was bad enough, but getting 75% fake frames and no real raw perf increase with such crazy 5090 specs is WTF really?

My 4090 will last couple of years just fine, I am just annoyed now that I did not play some of the recent games waiting for 5090, grrr...
 

Win2012R2

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This was supposed to be a no brainer buy for 5090: 60-70% raw perf increase, nevermind DLSS gimmicks, that's for low end cards, but here we are - clock regression, seemignly like 20-25% raw perf increase, what the hell gone so wrong...
 
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Win2012R2

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RDNA3bros...
Yes that I get, but I mean spec of the chip is very mean - 512 bit and faster memory, ideal for high rest stuff, like they could not clock it up at least 10%? They've gone all in on that fake frame stuff, I wonder how much of die space it takes, they must have wasted transistors on something.

All AMD needed to do is stay the course and release big RDNA4 - nice chunky GCD with lots of cache and of course GDDR7, beating 4090 by 50%+ in raster/ray tracing and it would be better than 5090. What a wasted opportunity...
 

adroc_thurston

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like they could not clock it up at least 10%?
50% more, meaner SMs iso node is hard.
All AMD needed to do is stay the course and release big RDNA4 - nice chunky GCD with lots of cache and of course GDDR7, beating 4090 by 50%+ in raster/ray tracing and it would be better than 5090. What a wasted opportunity...
all they had to do was not canning N4c. oh well. ATi gonna ATi
 

Grooveriding

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Without DLSS, 5080 is going to be slower across the board than a 4090. It will still be fast and good value at that price tag. Unless supply is great, will be scalped to the moon.
 
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