And the 5090 is so different in core count and memory bandwidth that it will be hard to extrapolate the 5080 performance from the 5090 results.
5090 reviews on Jan 24th -
Looks like Papa Jensen is worried it won't be in as high demand as 4090 was...
Even the 4090 has issues with CPU still bottlenecking at high resolutions, the 5090 might suffer even more there.And the 5090 is so different in core count and memory bandwidth that it will be hard to extrapolate the 5080 performance from the 5090 results.
Early reviews are great, it's just weird that we get the 5090 review a week early and only launch day reviews on the 5080. Seems suspiciously like they want a week of great press for the big increase the 5090 should bring before they launch a 5080 that probably won't be a terribly impressive jump over the same priced 4080S it's replacing.I don't get the logic here.
Usually people are concerned when the review embargo is on the same day sales start, basically so FOMO buyers pretty much have buy before they can absorb the reviews.
That's kind of the case for the 5080, but the 5090 has reviews much sooner, which means people have plenty of time to absorb the reviews before they can buy. That's more of an indication of confidence than worry for the 5090.
Early reviews are great, it's just weird that we get the 5090 review a week early and only launch day reviews on the 5080. Seems suspiciously like they want a week of great press for the big increase the 5090 should bring before they launch a 5080 that probably won't be a terribly impressive jump over the same priced 4080S it's replacing.
Videocardz article suggests there were late BIOS tweaks to the 5080 that made it hard for AIBs to stick with the original Jan 21st embargo for the 5080.Early reviews are great, it's just weird that we get the 5090 review a week early and only launch day reviews on the 5080. Seems suspiciously like they want a week of great press for the big increase the 5090 should bring before they launch a 5080 that probably won't be a terribly impressive jump over the same priced 4080S it's replacing.
Oh absolutely, I agree with you. Review embargo coming off a week early is definitely a sign of confidence in the 5090.People way overthink this stuff IMO. Unless you are FOMO buyer getting ready to order the moment they will take your money, why would you care at all about reviews a week before or day of the release.
But if anything this reflects more poorly on the 5080, than the 5090 which was the claim I was responding to.
Sharpening was taken out if DLSS ages ago. Current version has zero.Can you adjust and disable DLSS sharpening as well?
Daniel Owen did a video on this:
If you compare the Far Cry 6 and Plague Tale: Requiem numbers (i.e. apples to apples without 2x frame gen) then it looks like nVidia is targeting about a 35% increase gen on gen.
Those numbers don't make any sense.
The 5090 has 33% more SMs.The 5080 has 5%, 5070 Ti 6%, and 5070 4% (over 4070 NS). You'd expect the gap between the 4090 and 5090 to be 25-30% more than the other ones.
Almost as much as in the "5070=4090". Trully an exciting time for marketersThose numbers don't make any sense.
They certainly picked games with settings that would ensure CPU is not a bottleneck, but to make sure they run quickest they'd rationally use the best available CPU on market - 9800x3d.it's running a 5090 at 1080p real resolution, so much more likely to have CPU limitations
They certainly picked games with settings that would ensure CPU is not a bottleneck, but to make sure they run quickest they'd rationally use the best available CPU on market - 9800x3d.
I've got 4090 and 7800x3d - Far Cry 6 is bottlenecked by GPU at 4k, even without ray tracing on, obviously Nvidia tested it at 4k.At 4K 4090 is 50% faster than 3090 Ti.
I've got 4090 and 7800x3d - Far Cry 6 is bottlenecked by GPU at 4k, even without ray tracing on, obviously Nvidia tested it at 4k.
FarCry6 tests are 4k native (RT only) ?They tested at 4K with DLSS Performance mode, which is running it at 1080p.
Far Cry 6 does not support DLSS (just double checked it) - which is what made it notable in that group of gamesThey tested at 4K with DLSS Performance mode, which is running it at 1080p.
Far Cry 6 does not support DLSS (just double checked it) - which is what made it notable in that group of games
Think most of us have been around the merry go round enough times with how canny nvidia marketing is.
5090 is obviously going to be impressive. Once again the fastest GPU ever, and a tangible boost over the 4090, that will get that tier of buyers to buy another halo card again.
5080 is going to be underwhelming. Probably the most underwhelming 80 card in a long while. Slower than 4090, not much faster than a 4080S. We have the specs and there doesn’t look to be anyway around this, outside of DLSS4.
I think we’re almost certainly getting an 80ti this gen. Defective 5090 dies once amassed, released as 5080ti for $1500-$1600 sometime in the fall.
I don't see why they couldn't do a 384-bit, 24 GB cut-down version of GB202 that's half-way between a 5080 and 5090... GB202 is a really big die, so given enough time, they could gather enough defect chips to meet those specs. Only real problem with it is it will likely only be 10-15% faster than a 4090 at the same launch price as the 4090.RTX 5090 uses a a cut down GB202, so almost all the dies with a defect will still be used for 5090 GPUs. There might be a very small number of dies that can't meet 5090 specs, but could be used in an even more cut down configuration, but no where near enough to meet the demand for a 5080 Ti that bridges the gap between the 5080 and 5090. If anything, they might do something like a 5090 with a slightly narrower memory bus and higher memory clock speeds. Hell, they could put 3GB modules on it and call it an upgrade. 5090 Super 36GB 384bit GDDR7 36gbps.