For all the margin chasing crowd, they should know they would not exist without the mass market to drive volumes, making those very technologies possible. Arrogant people are dumb about their successes and why it happens, thinking only of self.
For all the margin chasing crowd, they should know they would not exist without the mass market to drive volumes, making those very technologies possible. Arrogant people are dumb about their successes and why it happens, thinking only of self.If this is what future is going to look like from now on, not speaking strictly about Nvidia and GPUs, but broadly about industries/society, it pretty much means technological progress available only to "rich" people going forward.
Cyberpunk 5090 mfg 4x dlss quality RT+PT 201 "fps"72ms latency ?
72 ms of PC latency at 200 FPS would feel horrible and jarring. Hell I was forced to disable path tracing in games such as CP 2077, AW2 & BMW because even with DLSS 3 FG on my 4090 they'd drop to ~120 FPS with about 40-50 ms of PC latency, which felt quite input laggy to me.
I don't disagree on GPUs, but I would disagree about halo in the GPU space not making a big difference. It's just that consumer sockets have gotten to the point that HEDT is effectively dead, so Threadripper really isn't halo anymore for gamers. Back with Sandy-E and Haswell-E you'd get to move past 4 cores with HEDT, get enough PCIe lanes to do crazy SLI systems, and wouldn't have to give up gaming performance to get it.Zen is way different. Zen does not use a huge complex monolith for their consumer line and is cheap to build. AMD just been delivering at a consistence cadence for their CPU division while keeping power consumption relatively low which is what help it gain consumer confidence. It was not the threadrippers that did it.
Going Halo for Nvidia makes more sense since they have a professional visualization market which provides guaranteed income at high margins.
AMD doesn't have much for this market. As we can see with the possible performance flop of the RTX 5090, going big carries more risk as more things can go wrong. The GTX 480 and Fury X are examples of this. The RTX 5090 is clocked awfully low for the amount of power it uses. This might be a fermi like chip which misses targets in the gaming segments but recovers sales in the professional markets.
No, there are other factors adding latency. If you were lock the framerate at 14fps (without frame-gen) and measure the latency as they do in the tweet, it would be higher than 72ms.72ms == 14FPS gameplay
It's complicated, the screenshot represents a latency spike from the average that was under 50ms while moving the mouse. The author of the video also mentions that specific CP2077 build had some isolated stutter issues, that they later "fixed" by running the game in borderless window mode.
No, there are other factors adding latency. If you were lock the framerate at 14fps (without frame-gen) and measure the latency as they do in the tweet, it would be higher than 72ms.
Also fast paced shooters.---
So FG is essentially useless when you need it most (low frame rates).
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Can't be - FP32/INT+FP32 (dual issue) is surely cheaper than FP32/INT+FP32/INT - if this is still dual issue like but supporting INT on all pipes, or just all FP32/INT as they imply but it can't be - IPC would have increased then considerably.Budget was reallocated to the RT core. Might even call it a level 4 RT core with the features.
The oversll INT throughput is doubled but the capability to concurrently issue INT that Turing brought is seemingly lost.
SNOOZEWelp, looks like no cache changes at the SM level for Blackwell either:
GPUs don't quite work like that.Can't be - FP32/INT+FP32 (dual issue) is surely cheaper than FP32/INT+FP32/INT - if this is still dual issue like but supporting INT on all pipes, or just all FP32/INT as they imply but it can't be - IPC would have increased then considerably.
Whatever they did change don't seem to make it all proper full non-fake FP32/INT core, otherwise perf in old stuff would have gone up higher, maybe they just did not finish the job because it needed N3 budgetGPUs don't quite work like that.
It seems like an inherently incremental SM optimization.Whatever they did change don't seem to make it all proper full non-fake FP32/INT core
It did not seem to have panned out either - clocks about same and perf seem to be also, so more or less no IPC improvementIt seems like an inherently incremental SM optimization.
Yeah. It looks like SM streamlining aimed at higher clocks and higher raw PPA, but something went wrong. Mildly wrong.It did not seem to have panned out either - clocks about same and perf seem to be also, so more or less no IPC improvement
Pretty sure they had to switch to N4 vs expected N3 for it, so perhaps that's who dunnitWasn't client blackwell rumored to be up to 2.9G fmax?
no this just smells like an fmax miss
Yea.So AMD decided not to compete during Nvidia's RDNA3 moment?
Turns out sometimes your infallible comp screws up and you roll them over. Too bad!Wow, they're really the best at wasting opportunities.
So AMD decided not to compete during Nvidia's RDNA3 moment?
Wow, they're really the best at wasting opportunities.
So AMD decided not to compete during Nvidia's RDNA3 moment?
Wow, they're really the best at wasting opportunities.
Is it?More like the economics of GPU progress are unfavorable this generation and it's impacting both.
Wrong, GB202 is the chungusest chungus ever, the first 512b NV part since GT200 too.It's more likely the other way around where Nvidia realized that AMD wasn't going to compete against their full range so they didn't need to try very hard.
Looks surprisingly similar to Jetson Orin NX/AGX