Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q4-2024 ?

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jpiniero

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What is clickbait? The HWUB title?

Yeah.

And $2499 is just grossly expensive. Look at the 4090 launch price. Come on man, $900 more - a 56% increase? Sounds like you’re making excuses for monopolist pricing power. Because if this rumor is true, their behavior is that of a monopolist.

It's going to be crazy expensive to make. I assume the die is going to be close to the reticle limit plus GDDR7 is going to be pricey. But there are people out there will who pay for it (AI) hence why it exists.
 
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MrTeal

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I enjoyed the video, even if it glosses over a bunch of context. I would have preferred if he's done architectures rather than names and started with the GTX 600s; it would have made Kepler make more sense in the 600-2000 series stack, since in those generations the x80 card was a x04 class card and the Ti/flagship was a x10 card.
 

Heartbreaker

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And then 5080 at $1000 would cost historically like a 70 class: ~40% of the flagship price 🤣

Sure, but IIRC, according to forum chatter, ever generation has moved naming one step wrong direction since Turing. So that would make this properly a 5050 or is that 5030 by now?

I'm Shakespearian when it comes to naming. It really doesn't matter. Only price and performance matters.

But in the absence of real news, this is something to make clickbait videos and forum chatter about.
 

Golgatha

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In the 4000 series, the Super variants largely corrected the value proposition in the 4070 and 4080 (really the 4070 Ti Super) configurations. In the case of the 4070 Ti Super, you're getting 66% of the specs for 50% of the price, and about 70-75% of the performance of the flagship 4090. IMO they're still all overpriced, even adjusted for inflation, but it at least got better.

 
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Mopetar

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Naming doesn't matter but the price moves up and the performance gap between reasonably priced and absurdly priced grows larger...
Nothing to complain about I'm sure!

The naming doesn't matter here, but Joe Schmoe consumers are definitely being mislead by the changes NVidia has made.

An x60 card used to be a good midrange product and now it's practically the bottom of the product stack.

Someone who previously bought a 1060 that was in the middle of the product stack for Pascal likely doesn't realize that a 4060 is now the lowest end desktop GPU that NVidia sells.

Caveat emptor, but shame on Nvidia nonetheless.
 
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