Nvidia CEO: Android tablets sell poorly because they're too expensive

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Puddle Jumper

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You implied that it's "shit" for the price, and it very much isn't.

It's a better value than some crappy $300 Atom based netbook with 2GB of RAM that tries to run Win 7, that's for sure. Have you actually tried to use a netbook? I had one and sent it back in less than a week, trying to run a full desktop OS on it was a slow and painful experience.

iPads and the new crop of Android tablets are highly portable media consumption devices. Aside from high end games, which netbooks can't run either, I can do anything on this iPad that I can do on my desktop. The difference is, I'm typing this from my hammock on the back porch, while listening to Pandora over my BT headphones.

Now, excuse me while I go back to playing Infinity Blade.

I've had a netbook for a while and there are a ton of things it could do that an iPad can't

stream Flash videos
Microsoft Office
Microsoft Visual Studio
*insert any of the hundreds of other real programs you can't get on a iPad
connect to a projector without any adapters
use usb storage
built in SD card reader
Play HD videos
play any media file without converting it

You have to remember Atom isn't the only choice for netbooks these days. AMD's new APU's offer vastly superior cpu and gpu performance that blows away all of the current tablets

Excuse me while I go back to playing a real game on my PC.
 

NaOH

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I've had a netbook for a while and there are a ton of things it could do that an iPad can't

stream Flash videos
Microsoft Office
Microsoft Visual Studio
*insert any of the hundreds of other real programs you can't get on a iPad
connect to a projector without any adapters
use usb storage
built in SD card reader
Play HD videos
play any media file without converting it

You have to remember Atom isn't the only choice for netbooks these days. AMD's new APU's offer vastly superior cpu and gpu performance that blows away all of the current tablets

Excuse me while I go back to playing a real game on my PC.

Be sure to keep your charger handy and stay near an outlet.
 

Ns1

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Ugh... typing is the one thing I can't stand doing on my iPad (2). I used to use it a bit in the morning for browsing webpages and such, but the problem I'd run into is that I'd browse the AT forums and want to make a reply. Even a reply as short as this one would take maybe 2-3x as long as on a PC. So, I begrudgingly get up and go over to my PC instead.

learn to type with 1 hand? That's what I'm doing.
 

BoberFett

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Specifically, I was thinking of the time I was hittin' the Buddha with some people while waiting to get tool tickets, but if those are your types, then so be it. :awe:

Don't lie. You're one of these lightsaber carrying morons.
 

Zen0

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Ugh... typing is the one thing I can't stand doing on my iPad (2). I used to use it a bit in the morning for browsing webpages and such, but the problem I'd run into is that I'd browse the AT forums and want to make a reply. Even a reply as short as this one would take maybe 2-3x as long as on a PC. So, I begrudgingly get up and go over to my PC instead.

Lately, I just cut out the iPad all together, and I just get up and go over to my PC to begin with (it's only in the next room over). That's kind of why I was seriously considering getting an ASUS Transformer... the dock would be rather nice as it solves trying to hold the device while typing (on the screen or a Bluetooth keyboard).

Get any case that turns it into type setting:

 

Zen0

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I've had a netbook for a while and there are a ton of things it could do that an iPad can't

stream Flash videos

Useless on a Netbook. Too slow for porn.

Microsoft Office
Microsoft Visual Studio

WTF? Completely useless. Get a real laptop with a decent sized screen for serious word processing.

*insert any of the hundreds of other real programs you can't get on a iPad
connect to a projector without any adapters

All completely useless because Netbooks are too shitty to make proper use of them.

use usb storage
built in SD card reader

All useless features that you should not be using on a Netbook.


Play HD videos
play any media file without converting it

There's an app for that.

You have to remember Atom isn't the only choice for netbooks these days. AMD's new APU's offer vastly superior cpu and gpu performance that blows away all of the current tablets

Excuse me while I go back to playing a real game on my PC.

And we're all playing real games on our PCs, except we actually make use out of our iPads productively and entertainingly, while your Netbook is completely useless and inferior to a real Ultraportable.
 

zerocool84

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And we're all playing real games on our PCs, except we actually make use out of our iPads productively and entertainingly, while your Netbook is completely useless and inferior to a real Ultraportable.

Huh??? How can someone not be productive on a Netbook? It has a real keyboard and you can type faster than on any tablet and you can still surf the web fine on it and respond to emails and other things. Sure I'll never own a Netbook but to say you can't be productive on it is retarded.
 

Zen0

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Huh??? How can someone not be productive on a Netbook? It has a real keyboard and you can type faster than on any tablet and you can still surf the web fine on it and respond to emails and other things. Sure I'll never own a Netbook but to say you can't be productive on it is retarded.

It can email and surf the web. That's about it.

An 11.6" or 13" Macbook Air would actually be a productive portable.
 

zerocool84

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It can email and surf the web. That's about it.

An 11.6" or 13" Macbook Air would actually be a productive portable.

For 3x+ the price they better be. You're trying to compare $300 netbooks to a $1000 computer. You can still be productive on a Netbook, not as productive as a real laptop but you can still do most things that people would need to do.
 

Zen0

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For 3x+ the price they better be. You can still be productive on a Netbook, not as productive as a real laptop but you can still do most things that people would need to do.

No, any real work (or even games) outside word processing + surfing the web needs processing power + bigger and better screens.

Netbooks are going to be die off because they are simply irrelevant as an auxilliary device when Tablets perform the role in an infinitely superior form factor.

This is why Laptops aren't affected by Tablet sales because Laptops are made to do real work while the go and often replace desktops - or do double duty as desktop and mobile. Neither netbooks nor Tablets can replace these functions.
 

zerocool84

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No, any real work (or even games) outside word processing + surfing the web needs processing power + bigger and better screens.

Netbooks are going to be die off because they are simply irrelevant as an auxilliary device when Tablets perform the role in an infinitely superior form factor.

This is why Laptops aren't affected by Tablet sales because Laptops are made to do real work while the go and often replace desktops - or do double duty as desktop and mobile. Neither netbooks nor Tablets can replace these functions.

Yes netbooks are going to die off, they're just too expensive for what they are but if someone already has one then they can still be productive on it.
 

Puddle Jumper

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And we're all playing real games on our PCs, except we actually make use out of our iPads productively and entertainingly, while your Netbook is completely useless and inferior to a real Ultraportable.

This may be a shock to you but some of us can afford more than one laptop. I've also got a ThinkPad X220 for when I want something more
powerful.

Is Facebook and Angry Birds really what passes for productivity these days?

.An 11.6" or 13" Macbook Air would actually be a productive portable.

WTF? Completely useless. Get a real laptop with a IPS screen and hardware that isn't from 2008.
 

Ns1

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WTF? Completely useless. Get a real laptop with a IPS screen and hardware that isn't from 2008.

the irony of the statement, considering you're pushing netbooks so hard.

I can't imagine anything that an ultra-portable user would need that wouldn't be handled by an MBA.
 

alent1234

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I've had a netbook for a while and there are a ton of things it could do that an iPad can't

stream Flash videos
Microsoft Office
Microsoft Visual Studio
*insert any of the hundreds of other real programs you can't get on a iPad
connect to a projector without any adapters
use usb storage
built in SD card reader
Play HD videos
play any media file without converting it

You have to remember Atom isn't the only choice for netbooks these days. AMD's new APU's offer vastly superior cpu and gpu performance that blows away all of the current tablets

Excuse me while I go back to playing a real game on my PC.

yet 50 million ipads will be sold this year

can you use a netbook while lying down in bed?
does the screen rotate when you rotate it 90 degrees?
can you use a netbook as a scanner?
does it have 2 cameras for skype video calls?
how is it at skype calls while running after kids?
how is it using a laptop/netbook on a plane when the person in front reclines their seat all the way back?
 

Anubis

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how is it using a laptop/netbook on a plane when the person in front reclines their seat all the way back?

works just fine actually unless you have one of those massive gaming laptops

and just because i like adding fuel to this, out of those 50 million sold i bet less then 10% use that crap you listed

i use my laptop/netbook while lining on the couch - close enough to bed and i have used it in bed works fine
screen rotation is a non issue
i don't know a single person who uses skype, i couldn't care less about it
i have a scanner on my printer and legs to walk me to it
 

Red Storm

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Why would I want to use a crappy trackpad and tiny keyboard for something like MS Office? If I ever needed to use MS Office, I would use a real computer.

The only trackpad I have ever used that was slightly above average was the MacBook Pro's, but even that is vastly inferior to a normal mouse. Netbooks only make this problem worse with their lower specs and smaller builds.

Trying to cram a bloated desktop level OS into a tiny computer just doesn't work.
 
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alent1234

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works just fine actually unless you have one of those massive gaming laptops

and just because i like adding fuel to this, out of those 50 million sold i bet less then 10% use that crap you listed

i use my laptop/netbook while lining on the couch - close enough to bed and i have used it in bed works fine
screen rotation is a non issue
i don't know a single person who uses skype, i couldn't care less about it
i have a scanner on my printer and legs to walk me to it


i don't have a printer or a scanner so if i need to scan or fax something it's smartphone or tablet
i have family 2000 miles away and skype is one of the few ways to video call. i've used it on a PC with a webcam, but if you have kids this is almost impossible. with a phone/tablet and 2 cameras skype is awesome
i know people that call other countries using skype
i've seen people try to use laptops on a train, and it's too funny. using an ipad on a train is very easy.
my 3 year old uses my ipad for books and educational apps and youtube. the amount of educational apps in the app store make it cheaper than toys r us crap
the ipad has a nice photo frame app so i can put it somewhere and use it like a digital photo frame with thousands of pictures in there
you can buy applications for laptop/netbooks but the ipad has it included where i can pick a place on a map and see all the photos taken there
since the ipad has the file system hidden from the user, it's ideal for non-techie people
the email app on the ipad doesn't need a vpn connection. the magic of activesync
 
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Swampthing

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it's funny, the whole argument in this thread stems around the fact that essentially tablets are useless devices for anything other than some goofy repetitive games and facebook. There really isn't any productivity that comes out of them. They aren't serious replacements for laptops.

Their only real use seems to be the fact that they are more portable than a laptop but at the same time do so much less. They are essentially a toy for browsing the web. I suppose the facebook generation loves them, but i could personally give a toss about facebook.

The root of the whole tablet issue is simple in my opinion. Android and the Ipad both have squat for apps that are actually useful. There's tons of belch, fart and whatever other apps. Tons of stupid insanely dull games like angry birds. what is there to do beyond that? 99% of the android market is crap.
 

Ns1

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it's funny, the whole argument in this thread stems around the fact that essentially tablets are useless devices for anything other than some goofy repetitive games and facebook. There really isn't any productivity that comes out of them. They aren't serious replacements for laptops.

Their only real use seems to be the fact that they are more portable than a laptop but at the same time do so much less. They are essentially a toy for browsing the web. I suppose the facebook generation loves them, but i could personally give a toss about facebook.

The root of the whole tablet issue is simple in my opinion. Android and the Ipad both have squat for apps that are actually useful. There's tons of belch, fart and whatever other apps. Tons of stupid insanely dull games like angry birds. what is there to do beyond that? 99% of the android market is crap.

this post 99% opinion 1% fact
 

alent1234

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it's funny, the whole argument in this thread stems around the fact that essentially tablets are useless devices for anything other than some goofy repetitive games and facebook. There really isn't any productivity that comes out of them. They aren't serious replacements for laptops.

Their only real use seems to be the fact that they are more portable than a laptop but at the same time do so much less. They are essentially a toy for browsing the web. I suppose the facebook generation loves them, but i could personally give a toss about facebook.

The root of the whole tablet issue is simple in my opinion. Android and the Ipad both have squat for apps that are actually useful. There's tons of belch, fart and whatever other apps. Tons of stupid insanely dull games like angry birds. what is there to do beyond that? 99% of the android market is crap.

i guess you don't go past the top selling apps or the top grossing ones. there are hundreds if not thousands of apps to be used for work purposes.

the same argument could have been made about PC's. Mainframes are still more powerful along with solaris workstations. but in the 1990's Wintel killed all those markets. even though by specs PC's were crap and still do a lot less than unix in some areas like remote management. yet MS is the best performing stock ever and ^nix on the desktop is used by a few luddites and mostly hipsters who love apple

along with PC's we still have mainframes and servers. tech is still young and there are probable more new markets ahead of us that will co exist in the future
 
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