Nvidia CEO: Android tablets sell poorly because they're too expensive

[corkyg]

Back to the basic thread issue - yes - Apple, for the first time, is enjoying a real price advantage with its processor over the Android. Heard a very good discussion on this yesterday on Bloomberg.

 

[Lonbjerg]

yet 50 million ipads will be sold this year

can you use a netbook while lying down in bed?
does the screen rotate when you rotate it 90 degrees?
can you use a netbook as a scanner?
does it have 2 cameras for skype video calls?
how is it at skype calls while running after kids?
how is it using a laptop/netbook on a plane when the person in front reclines their seat all the way back?

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/corporate_ipad_users_have_no_idea_why_they_have_them

The number may be inflated by the common Crapple phenomenon: Hype....without any real world usage.

 

[akugami]

it's funny, the whole argument in this thread stems around the fact that essentially tablets are useless devices for anything other than some goofy repetitive games and facebook. There really isn't any productivity that comes out of them. They aren't serious replacements for laptops.

Their only real use seems to be the fact that they are more portable than a laptop but at the same time do so much less. They are essentially a toy for browsing the web. I suppose the facebook generation loves them, but i could personally give a toss about facebook.

I think we established this during the iPad 1's release. Tablets as they are today are mostly a media consumption device. Not that you can't do real work on them, it's just that they're more suited to consume media than create it. The problem and arguments back and forth mostly stem from what we consume and how we consume it. Different people use it for different stuff.

The root of the whole tablet issue is simple in my opinion. Android and the Ipad both have squat for apps that are actually useful. There's tons of belch, fart and whatever other apps. Tons of stupid insanely dull games like angry birds. what is there to do beyond that? 99% of the android market is crap.

This paragraph is full of opinion and mostly looks at the surface of what's available on Android and iOS. Are most of the apps available crap? Yeah. But then most of the apps on the PC and Mac are crap as well. Most of the games on all of the consoles are crap too if we want to get down to it. However, you make it sound like there are almost no apps to boost productivity and that's simply not true. There is a wealth of helpful apps on the iPhone and I'm sure for most of the apps that I use on iOS there is an Android equivalent.

I know for a fact that there are photography tools to help budding photographers using SLR cameras on the iPhone. That's certainly a pro-level productivity app. There are apps to read and edit MS Office files. There are VNC apps so you can access your home/work computer. With an add-on you can turn your iPhone into a credit card payment system. You can get an app to interface with your home/work IP based security camera system. There's also a wealth of edutainment apps that I have bought for my kids. I'm sure that I've missed a ton of useful apps that people use but that I don't need.

Tablets as they currently exist are not the ideal device to create media but it's not like they're useless for getting work done. Certain specialized apps also make sense for use on a tablet and may be superior than an equivalent PC/laptop version. Tablets and smartphones are still in their infancy relatively speaking. Things are only going to get better.

 

[Aikouka]

learn to type with 1 hand? That's what I'm doing.

All I do is set the iPad down on the bed and type with two hands, which is much faster than one handed typing. However, I still find it absolutely cumbersome.

Get any case that turns it into type setting

I have a smart cover, but it still wouldn't be applicable. What I'd prefer is a keyboard dock like the Transformer has. That way I could treat it more like I would a laptop when using it in bed where I would lay the laptop on me rather than holding it.

 

[alent1234]

that's how you test new tech. buy it and figure out how to use it. tablets will probably be big in medicine in a few years as the apps are developed. years ago i saw a restaurant use tablets for it's menu.

for years PC's were over priced typewriters and yet companies still bought them

 

[Swampthing]

This paragraph is full of opinion and mostly looks at the surface of what's available on Android and iOS. Are most of the apps available crap? Yeah. But then most of the apps on the PC and Mac are crap as well. Most of the games on all of the consoles are crap too if we want to get down to it. However, you make it sound like there are almost no apps to boost productivity and that's simply not true. There is a wealth of helpful apps on the iPhone and I'm sure for most of the apps that I use on iOS there is an Android equivalent.
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definitely full of opinion, it is a forum after all. Most apps on the pc are crap? I dunno, i can list 5-10 apps right off the top of my head i need use or want. I can't do the same with android. I have ONE app i must have on my phone, checkbook. it's all i use to track my finances. Nothing else on there i care about. The gadget person that i am i struggle as i want a tablet but i keep asking myself. What the heck am i going to use it for? I have yet to find an answer to that question. There's just no apps that do anything i want on android, there's no games with any depth to them to play.

I have yet to find anything that has any use to me on the android market in any way shape or form. Android tablets to me are a complete and total gadget with some wow factor but no real use. i suspect to alot of people it's the same.

I have no clue about ipads. I can't stand apple or their products.

 

[oogabooga]

this post 99% opinion 1% fact

I may not have facts, but I can still be an expert on the interwebs ^_^

 

[Ns1]

n/m

 

[tonygeor]

drop the price of the 16gb tablets to 300 bucks and they'll sell billions!

 

[akugami]

definitely full of opinion, it is a forum after all. Most apps on the pc are crap? I dunno, i can list 5-10 apps right off the top of my head i need use or want. I can't do the same with android. I have ONE app i must have on my phone, checkbook. it's all i use to track my finances. Nothing else on there i care about. The gadget person that i am i struggle as i want a tablet but i keep asking myself. What the heck am i going to use it for? I have yet to find an answer to that question. There's just no apps that do anything i want on android, there's no games with any depth to them to play.

I have yet to find anything that has any use to me on the android market in any way shape or form. Android tablets to me are a complete and total gadget with some wow factor but no real use. i suspect to alot of people it's the same.

I have no clue about ipads. I can't stand apple or their products.

Well, that's basically my point. You don't see any use for the available utilities and productivity apps but there are plenty of them. I listed some examples which is by no means anywhere near complete. I'm sure that there are some out there who find an iPad invaluable as an addition to their arsenal of gadgets. Just as there are many like you who struggle to see a use for the iPad or other tablet. But just because you find no use for the available apps doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of valuable productivity apps that many find helpful, even invaluable. Different people, different needs.

 

[Ns1]

Can you deposit a check to your chase bank account with your laptop? Cuz there's a fucking app for that on the iPad.

 

[Anubis]

Can you deposit a check to your chase bank account with your laptop? Cuz there's a fucking app for that on the iPad.

people still write checks?

 

[Ns1]

people still write checks?

i get checks from the state of california and live checks from work when the processing company fucks up, as well as from clients.

so yes.

 

[finbarqs]

people still write checks?

most of clients use checks. Credit Card is definitely preferred as it's a "for sure payment" compared to the possibilities of bad checks. But a transaction fee for that piece of mind...

 

[zerocool84]

people still write checks?

Do you pay rent? Have you ever had someone do plumbing work or maintenance work your place? Checks are still very much in use.

 

[Anubis]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

 

[Ns1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

:cries:

 

[Swampthing]

Well, that's basically my point. You don't see any use for the available utilities and productivity apps but there are plenty of them. I listed some examples which is by no means anywhere near complete. I'm sure that there are some out there who find an iPad invaluable as an addition to their arsenal of gadgets. Just as there are many like you who struggle to see a use for the iPad or other tablet. But just because you find no use for the available apps doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of valuable productivity apps that many find helpful, even invaluable. Different people, different needs.

not really arguing that i guess. My frustration stems more from the fact that you can't do all these things on a tablet. As you or was it someone else said they are mostly media consumption devices which i totally don't get. Tablets just seem so incredibly limited in what they can do. I'm sure they are awesome for all the facebook zombies, but i don't use facebook.

Just wish i could find a use for a tablet as they are cool little devices.

 

[MagickMan]

Well, I use mine for; web browsing, Twitter, email, ebooks, Pandora, streaming video (Netflix, Hulu, HBO, HD from my media server), games, video chat, storing photos, note taking, etc.. It gets used a lot.

 

[alent1234]

not really arguing that i guess. My frustration stems more from the fact that you can't do all these things on a tablet. As you or was it someone else said they are mostly media consumption devices which i totally don't get. Tablets just seem so incredibly limited in what they can do. I'm sure they are awesome for all the facebook zombies, but i don't use facebook.

Just wish i could find a use for a tablet as they are cool little devices.

there is the ram issue. Mac's come with 4GB or more. ipad is 512MB even though the OS has less overhead. and supposedly there is no swap file like in normal ^nix OS's

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

there is the ram issue. Mac's come with 4GB or more. ipad is 512MB even though the OS has less overhead. and supposedly there is no swap file like in normal ^nix OS's

Stock Playbook OS takes about 350-400MB of the 1GB ram that it has. iPad 2 OS takes about 200MB of the 512MB that it has. Even with 512MB, the iPad is not a slouch.

 

[finbarqs]

wow... I wonder what if you put an apple logo on an android device, will it sell like hotcakes?

 

[preslove]

I'm aiming my final price on a Galaxy tab to be $135. I'd be willing to spend more on a tablet, but not much more.

 

[alent1234]

Stock Playbook OS takes about 350-400MB of the 1GB ram that it has. iPad 2 OS takes about 200MB of the 512MB that it has. Even with 512MB, the iPad is not a slouch.

my ipad 2 opens some large emails faster than outlook, but my core i5 laptop is generally faster at rendering most web pages

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

my ipad 2 opens some large emails faster than outlook, but my core i5 laptop is generally faster at rendering most web pages

Rendering is up to the CPU, which is why the i5 would render faster, but I get your point.