NVIDIA GeForce 20 Series (Volta) to be released later this year - GV100 announced

[Sweepr]

May 10 Update: GV100 Announced - The World’s Most Advanced Data Center GPU

- GV100 GPU
- 21.1 billion, 815 mm2
- 5120 CUDA cores, 320 TMUs
- GPU clock 1455 MHz
- TSMC 12 nm FFN high performance manufacturing process customized for NVIDIA
- Exceptional performance per watt.
- Higher clocks and higher power efficiency.
- Major new redesign of the SM processor architecture that is at the center of the GPU. The new Volta SM is 50% more energy efficient than the previous generation Pascal design, enabling major boosts in FP32 and FP64 performance in the same power envelope.
- Volta’s highly tuned 16GB HBM2 memory subsystem delivers 900 GB/sec peak memory bandwidth
- 1.5x delivered memory bandwidth versus Pascal GP100
- New mixed-precision FP16/FP32 Tensor Cores purpose-built for deep learning matrix arithmetic;
- Enhanced L1 data cache for higher performance and lower latency;
- Streamlined instruction set for simpler decoding and reduced instruction latencies;

It has a completely different instruction set than Pascal,” remarked Bryan Catanzaro, vice president, Applied Deep Learning Research at Nvidia. “It’s fundamentally extremely different. Volta is not Pascal with Tensor Core thrown onto it – it’s a completely different processor.

https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/inside-volta


According to chinese website MyDrivers (rumor):

- Pascal lineup is complete now that NVIDIA launched Titan Xp and is about to launch GeForce GTX 1030
- Based on their traditional upgrade cycle we should expect Volta by the end of the year or early 2018, but NVIDIA changed plans
- Market situation in Q1-2017 was bad, graphics and other hardware sales in decline, price war, meager profits, sales not increasing the way they want to (vicious circle)
- According to the latest news, NVIDIA plans to release GeForce 20 series in advance, it is now expected to be released in the third quarter of this year
- GeForce 20 series product prices, market positioning will be replanned
- By launching sooner than expected they will be able to increase prices of single cards and profits

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/528/528313.htm

Edit: It's the same website that leaked AMD's Radeon RX 580/RX 570 plans, launch date and confirmed Polaris 12:

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/523/523439.htm

 

[Head1985]

According to chinese website MyDrivers:
- Market situation in Q1-2017 was bad, graphics and other hardware sales in decline, price war, meager profits, sales not increasing the way they want to (vicious circle)
http://news.mydrivers.com/1/528/528313.htm

This is joke right?Pls tell me this is joke.Anyway good troll thread.
How can they say price war and bad profits when Nv have already 1year Monopoly from 200USD up and best profits in history lol...

 

[ConsoleLover]

Wow what garbage made up crap from people with zero knowledge. Nvidia just had one of its best years in terms of profits and revenue and share price.

Why the hell would they rush to release Volta when Vega isn't even out yet and its going to be about two months before its released. They also have a monopoly on the high end market, anything over $250 they have a monopoly on it.

 

[Arachnotronic]

According to chinese website MyDrivers:

- Pascal lineup is complete now that NVIDIA launched Titan Xp and is about to launch GeForce GTX 1030
- Based on their traditional upgrade cycle we should expect Volta by the end of the year or early 2018, but NVIDIA changed plans
- Market situation in Q1-2017 was bad, graphics and other hardware sales in decline, price war, meager profits, sales not increasing the way they want to (vicious circle)
- According to the latest news, NVIDIA plans to release GeForce 20 series in advance, it is now expected to be released in the third quarter of this year
- GeForce 20 series product prices, market positioning will be replanned
- By launching sooner than expected they will be able to increase prices of single cards and profits

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/528/528313.htm

Nice.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Wow what garbage made up crap from people with zero knowledge. Nvidia just had one of its best years in terms of profits and revenue and share price.

That's past performance.

Why the hell would they rush to release Volta when Vega isn't even out yet and its going to be about two months before its released. They also have a monopoly on the high end market, anything over $250 they have a monopoly on it.

Very little to do with it. NVIDIA needs to put out new stuff to keep people buying, and the 10-series has been around for a while now. Yes, 1080 is cheaper now than it was before and yes we have 1080 Ti, but if NVIDIA wants to accelerate sales, a good way to do that would be to put out substantially better performing products than what's available now.

NVIDIA has every business incentive to move as quickly as practical.

 

[tviceman]

The only way for the article to have any shred of truth is if Volta's release was planned to be held back by several months after being finished and ready. I don't see that as being the case, so I don't think Volta will be out in Q3.

 

[tential]

Nice.

You're one of the FEW sane voices on this topic of Volta.
The amount of people who can't seem to figure out Nvidia's release schedule is mind boggling.

 

[raghu78]

If Nvidia bring Volta consumer in Q3 2017 it would be the first time we see them move to a new generation within 15 months. Thats unheard of even for Nvidia in their 24 year history. I cannot believe Nvidia will release a GV104 this year which will match or beat Titan Xp especially when Nvidia has no competition in the > USD 300 market.

 

[Bouowmx]

Can GDDR6 fit into that time frame?

 

[CatMerc]

Can GDDR6 fit into that time frame?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3165...t-tracks-superfast-gddr6-graphics-memory.html

Micron is supposedly fast tracking it for the end of the year. NVIDIA is large enough and has enough clout to maybe get the initial supply.
The top cards might get it like they did this generation, while the rest might get GDDR5X to provide the generational speedup.

That's how I would go about it anyway.

 

[nurturedhate]

If Nvidia bring Volta consumer in Q3 2017 it would be the first time we see them move to a new generation within 15 months. Thats unheard of even for Nvidia in their 24 year history. I cannot believe Nvidia will release a GV104 this year which will match or beat Titan Xp especially when Nvidia has no competition in the > USD 300 market.

It could always be something similar to 780ti (kepler) -> 750ti (maxwell v1). The former released Nov '13 and the latter Feb '14. Getting some sort of new low power part out for mobile in time for back to school and holiday sales would make sense.

 

[Sweepr]

Wow what garbage made up crap from people with zero knowledge. Nvidia just had one of its best years in terms of profits and revenue and share price.

Let's see what DigiTimes, different source, has to say about Q1-2017 for graphics card vendors:

For the second quarter, motherboard and graphics card players are now hoping AMD's new Ryzen CPUs and its Vega GPU, which is scheduled to be released at the end of the second quarter, will help boost their sales.

The sources also noted that motherboard and graphics card demand from China, Europe and North America all suffered declines in the first quarter, but motherboard players' product ASPs were up slightly thanks to strong demand for high-end models from the gaming sector.

With AMD's Ryzen 7 launched in early March and Ryzen 5 in April, the motherboard players believe the CPUs will be able to attract price-oriented consumers because of their high price/performance ratios.

Although Nvidia recently launched its new GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GPU and cut the GeForce GTX 1080 price from US$699 to US$499, weak demand has created high channel inventories, especially in China.

Because of weak demand, some graphics card players believe overall graphics card shipments may drop over 15% sequentially in the second quarter, but if AMD's Vega series GPUs are able to arrive on time and have stable supply, the percentage may be smaller, the sources noted.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20170412PD204.html

 

[Sweepr]

That's past performance.

Very little to do with it. NVIDIA needs to put out new stuff to keep people buying, and the 10-series has been around for a while now. Yes, 1080 is cheaper now than it was before and yes we have 1080 Ti, but if NVIDIA wants to accelerate sales, a good way to do that would be to put out substantially better performing products than what's available now.

NVIDIA has every business incentive to move as quickly as practical.

That's precisely what we can infer from DigiTimes and now MyDrivers articles. GP104 is about to complete 1 year without direct competition, and I'm sure they won't hold back on Volta if they can launch it sooner than expected, especially if it's still TSMC 16nm. Of course this is in the rumor stage and personally I think Q3 is a little too optimistic, but MyDrivers has been spot on regarding NVIDIA's leaks lately.

 

[DidelisDiskas]

After watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPUTa8_L8L0

It would seem to me, that nvidia could just rebrand the current generation same way amd does and still sell much more than amd. What's the point of releasing a new generation so soon, if the majority of people buying their cards don't really understand the technical side of gpu's?

 

[crisium]

Nvidia still has to compete with itself, but that's a very quick cadence. I don't buy it.

The only reason I can think to get these out in Q3 2017, rather than say Q1 2018 as expected, is to latch onto the 4K high refresh rate monitors which are coming Q3 2017.

What is the successor to Volta? When is it coming? Unless that product is also ahead of schedule, why not maintain the steady 2 year cadence? Unless a Volta successor is on the way for 2019, this seems like a recipe for a long Volta cycle.

 

[Bacon1]

Let's see what DigiTimes, different source, has to say about Q1-2017 for graphics card vendors:

Although Nvidia recently launched its new GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GPU and cut the GeForce GTX 1080 price from US$699 to US$499, weak demand has created high channel inventories, especially in China.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20170412PD204.html

Weak demand for high end chips huh?

So if Volta comes out this year, that makes the 1080 Ti and Titan Xp terrible buy for high end users who will want to upgrade to big Volta in less than a year.

 

[Carfax83]

Usually I would have scoffed at this, but Micron fast tracking GDDR6 to this year says it all. Not sure how I feel about this, but progress is progress.

This is bad news for AMD, as it looks like they won't get any traction this year from Vega, unless Vega turns out to have higher performance than the 1080 Ti; which is unlikely in my opinion.

 

[Ajay]

I wonder if this is going to be GV100. Nvidia and IBM owe Oak Ridge some (a lot!) of high performance compute nodes. Also, seems like NV must have decided to go with TSMC's 12FF (16FF++?) - instead of waiting for 7nm as originally thought. Well, I guess the actual commentary was that both AMD & NV were going to skip the 10nm node - so that is comment is still correct.

Edit: If this is correct

According to the latest news, NVIDIA plans to release GeForce 20 series in advance, is expected to be released in the third quarter of this year, at the same time GeForce 20 series of product prices, market positioning will be re-planning, in particular, will increase the price of single card to enhance profits Do the market.

I guess we are talking about GV104/106 or equivalents.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Weak demand for high end chips huh?

So if Volta comes out this year, that makes the 1080 Ti and Titan Xp terrible buy for high end users who will want to upgrade to big Volta in less than a year.

If you need a GPU now to play games, then Volta MAYBE coming out in Q3 isn't really an option for you.

There's always something better around the corner, but if you sit there waiting forever then you're never going to buy anything.

 

[railven]

If you need a GPU now to play games, then Volta MAYBE coming out in Q3 isn't really an option for you.

There's always something better around the corner, but if you sit there waiting forever then you're never going to buy anything.

Gotta have it now, price be damned versus I can wait for a discount buyers. NV has one in abundance. And they know it. Keep the cash flowing, pay for the next R&D cycle, keep investors happy, keep growing.

 

[tamz_msc]

So even with the launch of the 1080Ti at 700$ and the lower prices of the 1080 at 500$, they see less demand and inventories are building up, in China, of all places......and their answer is that they are going to release something new with higher prices hoping to spur demand?

Utter codswallop I say.

This has the same credibility as that Seeking Alpha article about Vega "outcompeting" the 1080Ti, whatever that means.

 

[Arachnotronic]

If Nvidia bring Volta consumer in Q3 2017 it would be the first time we see them move to a new generation within 15 months. Thats unheard of even for Nvidia in their 24 year history. I cannot believe Nvidia will release a GV104 this year which will match or beat Titan Xp especially when Nvidia has no competition in the > USD 300 market.

AMD is planning to move to a new generation (Polaris -> Vega) in about 13 months. If AMD can do it, I don't see why NVIDIA can't pull it off, too.

Also, there was a lot of derision of Pascal as "Paxwell" because the underlying uArch was very similar to Maxwell's (with some enhancements & implemented in 16FF+), so it's not too farfetched to expect NVIDIA to move to a "true" new architecture 15 months-ish after Pascal.

 

[railven]

So even with the launch of the 1080Ti at 700$ and the lower prices of the 1080 at 500$, they see less demand and inventories are building up, in China, of all places......and their answer is that they are going to release something new with higher prices hoping to spur demand?

Utter codswallop I say.

While I wouldn't put it past NV to raise prices, I'd see the launch of the 1080 Ti as indication they're either happy with current prices.

ie, GTX 2080 based on GV104 (just to use a consistent nomenclature) retakes the $700 price point, possibly 15-30% faster than GTX 1080 Ti. GTX 2070 hits GTX 1080 Ti speeds @ $450-550 price points, all of Pascall hits EOL and gets price cuts accordingly. NV moves onto a new tier with relatively same price points. Consumers get hopefully faster cards with more memory or something worth their money.

But who knows. NV can become super greedy, put their new card well over $1,000, and their Titan version into the $2,000 price points, and AMD gets a wave of enthusiast buyers.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Thread title is missing [ Rumor ] , [ Random Chinese Site ] , and [ Almost as credible as Wccftech ] modifiers

"Since this is The Daily Mail, I no longer believe that NVidia exists" as they say on Fark

 

[tamz_msc]

While I wouldn't put it past NV to raise prices, I'd see the launch of the 1080 Ti as indication they're either happy with current prices.

ie, GTX 2080 based on GV104 (just to use a consistent nomenclature) retakes the $700 price point, possibly 15-30% faster than GTX 1080 Ti. GTX 2070 hits GTX 1080 Ti speeds @ $450-550 price points, all of Pascall hits EOL and gets price cuts accordingly. NV moves onto a new tier with relatively same price points. Consumers get hopefully faster cards with more memory or something worth their money.

But who knows. NV can become super greedy, put their new card well over $1,000, and their Titan version into the $2,000 price points, and AMD gets a wave of enthusiast buyers.

My comment was in relation to what the Chinese article said about the Chinese market. If they are seeing less demand even with a GTX 1080 price cut and surprisingly competitive pricing of the GTX 1080, then I don't know how they'll increase demand by releasing new products at higher prices.