NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 & 5800 Ultra ($399/$499), 500MHz clock

[LH]

Carmack has been pushing for 64 and 128 bit. Its not useless.

 

[RichieZ]

Hey I don't care, I can't afford a 9700Pro or a GF5 FX

 

[SexyK]

what i want to know is when games will look like this screenshot of a GeForceFX demo. :Q :Q

Kramer

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: HendrixFan
I assume all the "non biased" people planning on getting the NV30 because the 25-50% performance gains are the same that already bought the R9700 because of the 25-300% performance gains. Ill also assume that if the R350 is released around the same time, and outperforms the NV30, then these "non biased" people will get that as well.

These people you speak of have too much money!

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: RichieZZZZ
Hey I don't care, I can't afford a 9700Pro or a GF5 FX

I do care but I too can't afford either card. The $200 I laid down on GF4 was about my limit.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia

Voodoo5 vs GF2

This is coming a little late, but he probably left that out because the voodoo got its a$$ handed to it by the gf2.

Ah you're lucky you weren't a member here back then...in those days I would have torn you apart for those words

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia

Voodoo5 vs GF2

This is coming a little late, but he probably left that out because the voodoo got its a$$ handed to it by the gf2.

Ah you're lucky you weren't a member here back then...in those days I would have torn you apart for those words

LoL, oh come on now...there were a few "reminiscing" threads over in video the last few months that kicked up some old flames

I too would have vigorously defended the V5's honor..but it looks like some of 3dfx's thunder will be reincarnated in the GeForce3dFX. That looks kinda funny

Chiz

 

[sandorski]

1 core at 500mhz or 1 at 4xxmhz, that offer similar performanc, who cares? 1 core or 6 cores offering similar performance, who cares? 256mb ram or 0, who cares? Price/performance/features are the *only* issues that should concern the end-user, all other issues are more important to the developers.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: SexyK
what i want to know is when games will look like this screenshot of a GeForceFX demo. :Q :Q

Kramer

If nVidia was really smart, they would have made "Dawn" nude in that demo. Would sell lots more cards...

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: SexyK
what i want to know is when games will look like this screenshot of a GeForceFX demo. :Q :Q

Kramer

If nVidia was really smart, they would have made "Dawn" nude in that demo. Would have sold lots more cards...

Naw...they should just release an "interactive" demo.

In any case, I'm still running a 32mb DDR geforce1 w/ 900Mhz T-bird and I don't imagine I'll be able to afford a system upgrade for a while yet.....can't wait to see what cards/technologies are release then.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: SexyK
what i want to know is when games will look like this screenshot of a GeForceFX demo. :Q :Q

Kramer

If nVidia was really smart, they would have made "Dawn" nude in that demo. Would sell lots more cards...

Maybe I don't get it, but what's so special about that image? The chamelion that came out with GF3 looks as good if not better. Both have a pre-rendered background.

Now the dinosaur demo that came out with 256DDR was awesome!

 

[Information21]

Originally posted by: sandorski
1 core at 500mhz or 1 at 4xxmhz, that offer similar performanc, who cares? 1 core or 6 cores offering similar performance, who cares? 256mb ram or 0, who cares? Price/performance/features are the *only* issues that should concern the end-user, all other issues are more important to the developers.

That's all good and well, but how do you suppose they come up with those numbers?

 

[BDawg]

Admittedly, this one looks much better.

 

[Information21]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Admittedly, this one looks much better.

I'm gonna have to disagree. I almost thre up when I saw the new shots they had up. *shudders* Wrong I say, just wrong. The full body shots are fine, but the head is just not right.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Here are some more pics from FiringSquad:

Truck demo: http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/gffx/images/05.jpg
More of Dawn's facial expressions: http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/gffx/images/10.jpg

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Information21

Originally posted by: BDawg
Admittedly, this one looks much better.

I'm gonna have to disagree. I almost thre up when I saw the new shots they had up. *shudders* Wrong I say, just wrong. The full body shots are fine, but the head is just not right.

I have no problems with her face, but I must admit I'm a bigger fan of long hair (which would look cooler anyway).

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Information21

Originally posted by: sandorski
1 core at 500mhz or 1 at 4xxmhz, that offer similar performanc, who cares? 1 core or 6 cores offering similar performance, who cares? 256mb ram or 0, who cares? Price/performance/features are the *only* issues that should concern the end-user, all other issues are more important to the developers.

That's all good and well, but how do you suppose they come up with those numbers?

eh?

 

[Information21]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Information21

Originally posted by: sandorski
1 core at 500mhz or 1 at 4xxmhz, that offer similar performanc, who cares? 1 core or 6 cores offering similar performance, who cares? 256mb ram or 0, who cares? Price/performance/features are the *only* issues that should concern the end-user, all other issues are more important to the developers.

That's all good and well, but how do you suppose they come up with those numbers?

eh?

The numbers matter. You can't get the price performance ratio by diregarding them. End-users need to know numbers so they can make informed decisions based on personal opinion. The other issues are important to enthusiasts (possible future developers) like myself like to know all there is to about a product to make an even more informed decision. Though sometimes knowing just enough can cause flame wars which are pointless. It's not a big deal I was just pointing that out.

 

[Information21]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: Information21

Originally posted by: BDawg
Admittedly, this one looks much better.

I'm gonna have to disagree. I almost thre up when I saw the new shots they had up. *shudders* Wrong I say, just wrong. The full body shots are fine, but the head is just not right.

I have no problems with her face, but I must admit I'm a bigger fan of long hair (which would look cooler anyway).

Long hair is for sure better, but in the new shots she just look misproportioned and wrong. The facial expression shots and the big close up are both very nice. She's really cute in those, almost life-like. I can almost feel the emotion in those expressions. The wrinkles in the nose, the saddness in her eyes, all very very cool. Can't wait until games will utilize some of the features of DX9 and GFFX. To bad that's kinda far off, though I'm thinking with CG we could see games made with support for these cards far sooner than we did with DX8 support.

 

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Information21

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: Information21

Originally posted by: BDawg
Admittedly, this one looks much better.

I'm gonna have to disagree. I almost thre up when I saw the new shots they had up. *shudders* Wrong I say, just wrong. The full body shots are fine, but the head is just not right.

I have no problems with her face, but I must admit I'm a bigger fan of long hair (which would look cooler anyway).

Long hair is for sure better, but in the new shots she just look misproportioned and wrong. The facial expression shots and the big close up are both very nice. She's really cute in those, almost life-like. I can almost feel the emotion in those expressions. The wrinkles in the nose, the saddness in her eyes, all very very cool. Can't wait until games will utilize some of the features of DX9 and GFFX. To bad that's kinda far off, though I'm thinking with CG we could see games made with support for these cards far sooner than we did with DX8 support.

Only trouble is that they wouldn't work on ATI cards, and thus the game makers would be losing a large part of their audience.

 

[SteelyKen]

I certainly don't want to see any video card-specific games being produced.
If your hardware doesn't support certain features of a game, then so be it.
If your hardware DOES support that feature but is unable to because it was coded only for Brand X, then
the consumer is the loser.

 

[dszd0g]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Maybe I don't get it, but what's so special about that image? The chamelion that came out with GF3 looks as good if not better. Both have a pre-rendered background.
Now the dinosaur demo that came out with 256DDR was awesome!

You can take the dinosaur and the chamelion. I'll take the babe

 

[neoro]

Crap.......... for $499
thats too much man.......
First of all Look at the games that are out there........... and soon to be released....
how many are there that looks promissing .......??
Doom 3.... maybe .......
but to spent $499 to make my Doom 3 look nice
I must be nuts....
The fact of the matter is...
Games today aren't really that addicted compared to the era of C&C and Quake....
There are so many variety out there and
MAN....... What is going on.... There are so many cool games on the Console- XBox and PS2....
The Pc industry seems to be out of good titles to play with
To Play at the extent of maximizing everything...............

Some People like me
Play for the sake of playing.......... (I get games for like USD$1.32 a copy) Piracy is high ...
I wanna see how NVidia survive with a 499 card.....

Any news on R350........
Is there an upcoming R350??/

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Dulanic
ROFL first off, we dont even know HOW fast it will be.

according to NVIDIA, the hi-end model (the one with high price and ridiculous cooling-solution) is about 30-50% faster than R9700. Altrough I would wait 'till we get official benchmarks. And of note: it seems that the high-end NV30 is clocked as high as it can go (judging from the heatsink/fan), whereas R9700 has room for overclocking.

In short, NV30 is a bit faster than R9700, and it become available about 6 months after R9700. Like I said: disappointment.

And did you NOT read anands review?

You mean preview right? Yes I did. I also read several other previews. Best one is propably at Beyond3D. And based on those previews it seems that:

1. NV30 is a bit faster than R9700
2. It costs more than R9700
3. It's available about 6 months after R9700
4. FSAA algorithm is unchanged from GF4
5. Ati might have something up it's sleeve by the time NV30 is available.

I don't know about you, but I'm unimpressed.

Thats the SAME old FSAA? Riiiiggggghhhttttt.

yes it is. The quality is more or less the same. The algorithm is unchanged. What they have is few new modes, gamma-correction (R300 has that as well) and performance-improvements. But the actual algorithm is the same, with the same output-quality.

People are saying they used brute force... maybe somewhat with the GPU, but Id say QUITE the reverse when it comes to memory... its got less memory bandwith but they can did alot of stuff to make use of it ALOT more effective.

And that's no different from what Ati has in R300. They too have several bandwidth saving technologies.

 

[Information21]

Originally posted by: SteelyKen
I certainly don't want to see any video card-specific games being produced.
If your hardware doesn't support certain features of a game, then so be it.
If your hardware DOES support that feature but is unable to because it was coded only for Brand X, then
the consumer is the loser.

I don't see how not having a feature is any different than having extra features, except that you gain something instead of missing out. This is especially evident when you look at the CPU market. Intel has had several extra instruction sets that are specific to their chips. In that case you have certain programs that take advantage of the extra instructions that run faster with them but still work without them. This is very similar to what's happening in the graphiocs market. There will be the core specifications of DX and OGL but the different companies will implement certain enhancements that improve performance and/or quality. Games will just have to learn what card to optimize for.