NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 Thread

ShintaiDK

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This will be the new king on the steam hardware survey and the best selling card of any, just as the previous GTX 970
 

l2ez4m

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Looks like it's gonna be a massive seller - 1070@1886 (max boost at stock):

 
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Sweepr

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This will be the new king on the steam hardware survey and the best selling card of any, just as the previous GTX 970

All at much lower power than OCed Geforce GTX 980 Ti / Titan X, and probably with better longevity than previous Maxwell cards.
 

guskline

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I had a hunch the real battleground would be GTX 1070 vs whatever AMD could put up. WOW those reviews look good.
 

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More ahead of the 980 Ti than I expected, I was thinking it'd only trade blows. I don't see any point to the 1080 really unless you've got money to burn.

Better to go 1070, save the money and upgrade to the eventual 1080 Ti later.
 

Bacon1

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Looks like it has issues maintaining clock speeds as well.

The clock speed did start out at 1860MHz, but it could not maintain that for long and quickly drops off over time. In the first few minutes it settles down to around 1796MHz. The average number here is 1756MHz, which is above the quoted GPU Boost speed of 1683MHz.



http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/29/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_founders_edition_preview/3

Hopefully the 3rd party ones are better. Why did you tag this thread with $379 when the cards reviewed are $449?
 

x3sphere

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AIB card prices ended up being reasonable for the 1080, if this goes the same way I expect you'll be able to get a good one that's only $20-30 over MSRP. Probably +$40-50 for a card with additional power, non-ref board.

Also - used 980 Ti prices are going to crater, imo, and I say this as someone who owns one right now. I wouldn't pay more than $350 for a 980 Ti. Closer to $300 would be fair I guess.
 

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The DX12 numbers are interesting, slightly faster than the FuryX. If the Polaris cards have a FuryX level performing card, it could give the 1070 a run for its' money.
 

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Interesting. The 1070 is 1% faster (slower?) than a stock 980ti after the thermal throttling is taken into account. And probably 10-20% slower when OC vs. OC are compared.

For me the GTX 980 Ti makes much more sense and we find that for the most part the 1070 offers very comparable frame rates. Overall the 1070 was just a single percent slower, but with the exception of a few games such as Anno 2205, Crysis 3 and The Witcher 3 it was as fast or faster at 1440p.

Once I’d crunched all the data for the 1080 overclocking video I found that on average we were able to get an extra 11% performance from the card, which as mentioned, a lot of you found a little underwhelming. For those of you that were disappointed, I don’t have great news… The 1070 gained the same average of 11% performance in the 7 games I tested.

The 980 Ti also proved to be a slightly better overclocker, where the 1070 was previously 1% faster overall, it was now 7% slower than Maxwell’s $570ish option.
http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/geforce-gtx-1070-overclocking/

That FE cooler is really hurting performance.
 
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tviceman

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The DX12 numbers are interesting, slightly faster than the FuryX. If the Polaris cards have a FuryX level performing card, it could give the 1070 a run for its' money.

I'm pretty sure Nvidia knows how Polaris 10 is going to end up, and strategically made the GTX 1070 the way it is in cores and vram speed - exactly how the 980 TI came out 6 weeks before Fiji and was "magically" configured just right to make Fury X look boring.
 

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They have a nice summary chart for comparison as well as clock speed and temps. They show the 1070 basically trading blows with a 980Ti. Either way, all 3 cards are so close to each other one or the other won't really give a different experience though power consumption obviously favors the 1070. I'll have to look at the other reviews to see if they warm up the cards to see if that is the difference.


 

sandorski

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I'm pretty sure Nvidia knows how Polaris 10 is going to end up, and strategically made the GTX 1070 the way it is in cores and vram speed - exactly how the 980 TI came out 6 weeks before Fiji and was "magically" configured just right to make Fury X look boring.

We'll see. DX12 seems not to be its' strong point though.
 

dark zero

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So... some reviews overhype the 1070, but others are more realistic and put it on 980 Ti levels.... seems that is not as great as expecting. Sadly the 980 Ti is on EOL and the only way to find one is to buy one overcosting FE card and not the other brands ones.
 

RussianSensation

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More ahead of the 980 Ti than I expected, I was thinking it'd only trade blows. I don't see any point to the 1080 really unless you've got money to burn.

Better to go 1070, save the money and upgrade to the eventual 1080 Ti later.

Yup, as I said earlier, 1080 is a pointless videocard.

1080p 60Hz, 1440p 60Hz 1070 + OC gets 60 fps in every optimized AAA game

4K 1070 SLI will smash 1080 at 4K for only $160 more.

This is why NV kept quiet on the 1070. The TFlops difference was a useless metric to use since 1080 is pixel fill-rate and memory bandwidth bottlenecked. The 37% extra shader and texture theoretical performance never translated into real world results for the 1080, ensuring that the ~ 9 Tflops figure was pure marketing against 1070's 6.5 Tflops rating.

As others predicted, game over for the 980Ti too. 980Ti OC cannot beat 1070 OC at 1440p 60hz gaming.












Aftermarket 980tis still demolish the 1070 at default clocks and even when both overclocked:

When 1070 is overclocked, it beats 980Ti OC. Sweclockers has it beating 980TI OC in 11/11 games. Even if 980Ti barely manages to pull out a win, a 1500mhz 980Ti uses 350W of power.
https://www.overclockers.ru/lab/762...ie-videokarty-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080.html#14

Over 2 years of gaming, the $380 pricing over a used $350 980Ti is made up by electricity costs + 2-3 year warranty on a new unused card. Besides, NV's driver focus will mean it's a far safer bet to buy the $380-400 1070 over a used $350 980Ti as far as longevity goes. 1070 might not be convincingly better than the 980Ti but considering it will start at $380 brand new and beats 980Ti in every other spec (features, I/O, driver support, VRAM amount, power usage stock + power usage overclocked, new warranty), I wouldn't even buy a used 980Ti for $350.
 
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RussianSensation

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Better yet, 1070 OC to 2Ghz that beats 980Ti OC uses less power than a stock 1080.



Add in all Pascal features, updated DP1.4/HDMI2.0, 8GB of VRAM, Pascal driver support/focus, the 980Ti is now not worth even $350 USD.
 
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crisium

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Hmm, wonder if Sweclockers did a proper warm up? But I guess when aftermarket releases this will hardly matter, and 1070 will only look better compared to 980 Ti as DX12 games increase.
 

RussianSensation

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If you look at DX12 results and minimums, 1070 also owns the 980Ti here.





This means the GTX1070 overnight obsoleted R9 390/390X/Fury Air/Fury X/Nano/980/980Ti/Titan X and I'd say even the 1080. The 1070 is the perfect 1440p 60Hz card.
 
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RussianSensation

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Hmm, wonder if Sweclockers did a proper warm up? But I guess when aftermarket releases this will hardly matter, and 1070 will only look better compared to 980 Ti as DX12 games increase.

Exactly. AIB cards like the Asus Strix will clock even higher out of the box (1080 OC Strix hits 2025mhz out of the box!) and cost less than $449 FE card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv_B-zc0kcE

The key here is that even though 1080 is technically faster at 1440p gaming, the AIB 1070 OC will hit 60 fps in nearly every AAA game out. That means this card is enough for the next 2 years, then just get a $400 Volta GP104.





I am calling it right now - GTX1070 is THE card to get for 1440p 60Hz, while Polaris 10 will be THE card to get for 1080p 60Hz (unless 1060/1060Ti is another smash hit unlike the weak turds that were the 760 and 960 cards).

If AMD is aiming to release Polaris 10 with Fury Air performance with 150W power usage, they are going to lose with Vega vs. Big Pascal since NV is managing Titan X performance at 970's power usage.





AMD's only gameplan now is to try to get as many AAA games using DX12 because that's about the ONLY weak spot Pascal has. Also, they better have a 2560 shader Polaris 10 ready with at least Fury X/980Ti level of performance -- this is because we already saw gamers choose $380-450 GTX770 2-4GB over a $300 R9 280X and $500 780 being more popular than the $400 R9 290. AMD will not get many high-end sales if for "just" $80 more there is a faster and more efficient 1070 card that's hitting ~ 60 fps in nearly every AAA game at 1440p. Delaying Vega to 2017 could be a fatal mistake as the next 6 months opens up the floodgates of HD7850->R9 290X owners all upgrading to 1070 since waiting until 2017 for Vega is too damn long. Using myself as an example, why would I wait 6-9 months for Vega when I can upgrade to GTX1070 now, use it and if Vega/Big Pascal are reasonably priced, just sell the 1070 and get one of those? I think NV finally has its 6800GT moment. This card is so fast that it smashes 1080p/1440p gaming for a fraction of the cost of the $599-699 1080 cards with arguably useless paper advantage for these same resolutions. AMD better have the biggest ace in its arsenal ever to pull off an upset here as AIB 1070 cards ~ to a 1070 OC from reviews.
 
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96Firebird

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This will probably be the card that replaces my 970, looking to spend around $400 so it looks like a great fit.
 
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