The 1070 and the 970 are vastly different. The 1070 doesn't enjoy the same superiority over the 980ti that the 970 did over the 780ti.I don't think it will sell as well as the 970 did for a few reasons. Firstly the 970 when overclocked was very competitive with the 980, which was widely considered overpriced. This time they have be careful to demarcate the 1070 much more from the 1080. Secondly the entire line has crept up in price to the point it might alienate some value buyers. I'm not saying that this card will tank sales wise but I wouldn't be surprised if the 960 replacement (which was second if you consider Steam data useful) is a better seller this generation. Thirdly I think people are getting more savvy to the fact that big Pascal is around the corner and what that will mean to the relative performance of these cards. We will see though, happy to be wrong.
"Can easily afford" doesn't mean wishes to spend. This adult could buy whatever card he wishes but I've always set myself a budget and the 1070 at least currently is outside it. Still interested in the technology (probably more so than gaming tbh) if you're wondering why I'd be reading reviews.
Was it mentioned anywhere the price will drop. I mean yes we know it will just a matter of time with electronics and gadgets but I'm not sure where the price of $379 came from when I first started reading about the new cards.No one is denying the the issue I have is reviews quoting a price that isn't available. This was very intelligent by Nvidia. Imagine if the rx 480 had launched at $200 msrp wit pricedrop to 150? Would we use the 150 price tag?
Why are we using what the price may be in the future for today's purchase? By the time the 1070 fe is 380 the rx 480 could be 100-150. No one knows.
Smart move by Nvidia throwing a pricedrop into their msrp. Great marketing and people are usually Willing to pay extra once sold on a product if the original low price isn't available.
Nvidia stated it in their launch of the cards. $450 launch price with aib cards coming at a later date from $380. So since we haven't seen a card at $380, it clearly isn't a card at $380. It's an over $400 card and even more expensive overseas.Was it mentioned anywhere the price will drop. I mean yes we know it will just a matter of time with electronics and gadgets but I'm not sure where the price of $379 came from when I first started reading about the new cards.
The 1070 and the 970 are vastly different. The 1070 doesn't enjoy the same superiority over the 980ti that the 970 did over the 780ti.
lol people have such selective memory it's ridiculous.What superiority? That's how it looked at launch.
Yea I think nvidia has always been able to do this due to their marketing and well demand for the cards. Makes sense there is nothing to compete with it right now and they know people will buy them at launch. I will eventually get one but I want to see the 480 benchmark results. For me it's what card will last me longer and the 1070 I think will despite still gaming at 1080p.Nvidia stated it in their launch of the cards. $450 launch price with aib cards coming at a later date from $380. So since we haven't seen a card at $380, it clearly isn't a card at $380. It's an over $400 card and even more expensive overseas.
Nah I don't think any current card out is a good buy including the 480. Will wait for cards to have competition to see what the real price is. Currently. Amd and Nvidia are going after different markets.Yea I think nvidia has always been able to do this due to their marketing and well demand for the cards. Makes sense there is nothing to compete with it right now and they know people will buy them at launch. I will eventually get one but I want to see the 480 benchmark results. For me it's what card will last me longer and the 1070 I think will despite still gaming at 1080p.
Better oc results on the 970 to make it like a 980 which makes it vastly superior to the 1070 which can't even reach the 1080. I'm not the one with the selective memory however we can see people rewriting history.lol people have such selective memory it's ridiculous.
Also @happymedium
You say adults can easily affordable these cards yet do you currently own something faster than a 970/290 even?
I don't upgrade every year or even every two years. The card I have now has been in my system for 4 years or more. It's handled everything I threw at it up until even now. I try and buy based in price and performance as well as how long I will be keeping it.Nah I don't think any current card out is a good buy including the 480. Will wait for cards to have competition to see what the real price is. Currently. Amd and Nvidia are going after different markets.
The gtx 980 looked great until the r9 290x continued to gain on it and considering how weak these cards are compared to the 970/980 launch I'll wait. Also expecting any Nvidia card to have longevity given their Market position is lol worthy
Nvidia stated it in their launch of the cards. $450 launch price with aib cards coming at a later date from $380. So since we haven't seen a card at $380, it clearly isn't a card at $380. It's an over $400 card and even more expensive overseas.
Just 2-3 months ago the gtx 970 was a 1080p card. Since the gtx 1070 is now the minimum for 1080p what resolution/settings should I use on a gtx 970? 900p/high?
I'm waiting until mid July to see what happens after the 480 hits the market.
Which is it?that's solid advice, same here, I like to wait till all cards are reviewed and the initial price gouging goes away.
You like to wait or you want to buy now.... It's only $400-500 most adults can easily afford that.the 960 is a place holder.....but games quite well.
I'm being patient, I hit the buy button yesterday at EVGA but it error out and I rethought the situation because I really like the Gigabyte G1 cards.
I have a 1080p monitor, there is no reason to go crazy.
Which is it?
You like to wait or you want to buy now.... It's only $400-500 most adults can easily afford that.
Which is it?
Worse than 120$. EVGA ACX 970 costs 339 (VAT applied). 1070 ACX = 489. Official prices on EVGA store. So... 150 more. Yeah, it's gonna sell like hotcakes.
Lol it won't sell like hotcakes but it'll sell well. It's the new definitive 1080p card. While tons of people sit on gtx 960a gaming at 1080p, people are running around screaming how the 1070 is the new minimum for 1080p and you now need 8gb of memory minimum.that sucks
Wrong.Better oc results on the 970 to make it like a 980 which makes it vastly superior to the 1070 which can't even reach the 1080. I'm not the one with the selective memory however we can see people rewriting history.
Just 2-3 months ago the gtx 970 was a 1080p card. Since the gtx 1070 is now the minimum for 1080p what resolution/settings should I use on a gtx 970? 900p/high?
Just watch how the goalposts frequently shift for what's a good card for what resolution for Nvidia.
Rofl you can't be serious with battlefield 3 benches. I'm laughing so hard.
If you can only find one niche case in a non apples t apples comparison that is sad.
Max oc the 970 is faster than a 780ti hands down.
So you're saying that at 1600p resolution is the right resolution to test a gtx 970 at? It's a 1080p card not a 1600p card. Way to hide the resolution rofl.
It's not an apples to apples test... The test rigs are different rofl... Are you serious? So 1600p testing on a gtx 970.yea good luck, not even man enough to admit when your wrong.
shift them goalposts!:\
good day.
lets all get back to the 1070, don't let the trolls shift the topic.