NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 Thread

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kagui

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Ran Firestrike Ultra 4K and did see some minor clock differences; note all the runs were back-to-back and following a gaming session to not do just ideal runs...

max 60% fan: 5058
max 55% fan: 5031
max 30% fan (almost silent): 4984

Will try a looped test at some point and review logs, but this is the best I have so far. Clocks stayed in the 1950-2000 range (for the most part) on the 30% fan speed compared to the 2000mhz+ on the other two speeds.

Fan % = performance ?
i suppuse not in games
 

sze5003

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I grabbed one of these...Any benchmark wishlists for people thinking of upgrading from a GTX970 ( I currently have i56600K, gtx 970, 16gb ram for comparison)

I'd like to get some pre and post upgrade numbers if anyone has any suggestions.
I'd be interested in your results when you get it. I know its 2x better than my current card but I'm curious anyway.

Maybe just run it on the games you have and let us know how it performs. I don't really care much for firestrike or those other benches.
 

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A few initial observations on the clock behavior of my Asus GTX 1070 FE, in preparation for my testing of gaming performance vs. the 970, 980, and 980 Ti, stock and overclocked.

As background, I've tested multiple 670, 780, 780 Ti, 970, 980, and 980 Ti cards, so I'm pretty familiar with how GPU Boost has worked on these models. The GTX 1070 is different.

Out of the box, it doesn't hold a constant clock speed, not due to temperature but due to both the power limit and GPU Boost behavior. In short, without touching a thing, the GTX 1070 averages around 1760MHz, but it is not a constant clock. With a simple adjustment of the power limit to the maximum 112%, it averages around 1810MHz, again not constant, but consistently higher than completely stock.

In terms of overclocking, the card will accept a +200MHz offset, crashing immediately with 212MHz. That takes it to an average of 2000MHz, fluctuating between 1980MHz and 2050MHz, again with the 112% power limit. Overclocking without raising the power limit makes no sense at all, because the card vastly overshoots its power limit even at stock clocks, operating at 100% nearly all of the time (and consequently dropping the clockrate). I've tested the memory up to +400 (8800MHz), and will probably leave it there, as memory instability is harder to pinpoint and I'd rather focus on just getting to my gaming benchmarks.

More to follow later this week.
 

Headfoot

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Any custom bioses yet that allow the 1070 to use more power limit at the BIOS level? I'm looking at the 1070 but overclocking thats locked down by software leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's why I immediately refused to get a Fury.
 

Genx87

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Bah out of town since Thurs. While in the airport today got the EVGA auto-notify the card I wanted was available. Had another hour at the airport, 2 in the air, and an hour home. Maybe next time.
 

A_Skywalker

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What gtx 1070 to get for gaming?
Zotac AMP extreme - only 1 euro more???
Gigabyte GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
I can also get MSI AERO which is the cheapest

They are all almost in the same price.
 
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SlitheryDee

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What gtx 1070 to get for gaming?
Zotac AMP extreme - only 1 euro more???
Gigabyte GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD
I can also get MSI AERO which is the cheapest

They are all almost in the same price.

Looks like the zotac has the highest base/boost clock. The MSI board looks like the slowest by a decent margin, so if it isn't significantly cheaper than the other two I would eliminate it from consideration. Of the remaining two, the difference doesn't look significant, but if the zotac is only 1 euro more why not go ahead and get it? I vote zotac.
 

A_Skywalker

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Looks like the zotac has the highest base/boost clock. The MSI board looks like the slowest by a decent margin, so if it isn't significantly cheaper than the other two I would eliminate it from consideration. Of the remaining two, the difference doesn't look significant, but if the zotac is only 1 euro more why not go ahead and get it? I vote zotac.

It also requires 2x8 pins and I dont think my psu will be able to handle it. Its 220 or 250 watts.
 

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How much variance is there in performance/fps from when cards like this are released with current drivers vs lets say a year from now with updates drivers and games being optimized? It is a considerable increase down the road?
 

MrTeal

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I just saw it, there are other cards also, my psu has 2x6 pins, if I use a card which is with lower wattage but requires 1x8 pin and 1x6 pin how can I do it?

Some cards come with a 6 pin to 8 adaptor. If not, you could buy one. Some cards also don't actually check whether a 6 pin or 8 pin cable is plugged into the 8 pin socket. Lastly, if the card does require an 8 pin, you can just use the two 6 pin cables and jumper the last two pins on your 8 pin yourself.

What PSU do you have?
 

A_Skywalker

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Some cards come with a 6 pin to 8 adaptor. If not, you could buy one. Some cards also don't actually check whether a 6 pin or 8 pin cable is plugged into the 8 pin socket. Lastly, if the card does require an 8 pin, you can just use the two 6 pin cables and jumper the last two pins on your 8 pin yourself.

What PSU do you have?

Is there are a danger if I do it like this, to use the second 6 pin connector with only 2 holes? Will it also consume more power, sorry for the stupid questions.
 

MrTeal

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Is there are a danger if I do it like this, to use the second 6 pin connector with only 2 holes? Will it also consume more power, sorry for the stupid questions.

Danger? Not really, no. You're not going to melt connectors or anything by using a converter or just plugging in the 6 pin connector. The big potential gotcha is whether your PSU can handle the load, which will depend on the PSU and what else is in your system.
 

A_Skywalker

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Danger? Not really, no. You're not going to melt connectors or anything by using a converter or just plugging in the 6 pin connector. The big potential gotcha is whether your PSU can handle the load, which will depend on the PSU and what else is in your system.

Well, its 500 watt, the recommended one, with i7 2400 and 8 ram, nothing special.
 

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Skywalker, if your PSU is only 250 watts or less, you definitely need to upgrade it. But that does not seem possible. I have never heard of a PSU with such low wattage that has 2 six pin connectors.

Edit: according to the nVidia website, they recommend a 500 watt PSU, and the card itself has a 150 watt TDP. Manufacturer's recommendations are always more than needed, but I definitely would not try to run a 1070 with anything less than a good quality 400+ watt PSU.
 
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A_Skywalker

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Skywalker, if your PSU is only 250 watts or less, you definitely need to upgrade it. But that does not seem possible. I have never heard of a PSU with such low wattage that has 2 six pin connectors.

Edit: according to the nVidia website, they recommend a 500 watt PSU, and the card itself has a 150 watt TDP. Manufacturer's recommendations are always more than needed, but I definitely would not try to run a 1070 with anything less than a good quality 400+ watt PSU.

The psu is 500 watts. Its more than enough, I was only asking questions for the pins as I have only 2x6.
 

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What brand/model is your PSU and how old?

Also, I am thinking of getting a 1070, is there any better choice in stock than the MSI gaming?
 

Shmee

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I would definitely replace it, as it is old and looks cheap/generic. It is likely a basic quality one that came with the computer, and age will wear it.

Get a good quality brand with 80 plus rating at least, something like evga, corsair, or seasonic.
 

ZGR

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I bought the MSI GTX 1070 Gaming 8G from Newegg earlier this morning after seeing some more RX 480 leaks. I was very close to buying 2 480's before I double checked on the games I play. I play far too many titles that will never get SLI/CFX support.

There were only 2 GTX 1070's to choose from, and this was the one with the quieter fan profile with an extra power connector. I am praying to achieve ~1950-2050 MHz post overclock.

Two RX 480's would have cost me a bit more and would have provided me with about half the performance in a lot of the older games I play. In other words, it would have been a waste of money for gaming. My R9 290 Tri-X has been showing its age in 4k in even the oldest games I play, like ARMA 2. I hope the GTX 1070 will have enough power to push 4k60hz until affordable 4k120hz is a reality.

I plan on relegating the R9 290 to the x8 slot and comparing it to the 1070 in x8 mode as well. It should be a fun bench-off. Both my Tri-X and the Gaming are gigantic cards; it will be funny to see them cramped in the case.
 

SlitheryDee

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I bought the MSI GTX 1070 Gaming 8G from Newegg earlier this morning after seeing some more RX 480 leaks. I was very close to buying 2 480's before I double checked on the games I play. I play far too many titles that will never get SLI/CFX support.

There were only 2 GTX 1070's to choose from, and this was the one with the quieter fan profile with an extra power connector. I am praying to achieve ~1950-2050 MHz post overclock.

Two RX 480's would have cost me a bit more and would have provided me with about half the performance in a lot of the older games I play. In other words, it would have been a waste of money for gaming. My R9 290 Tri-X has been showing its age in 4k in even the oldest games I play, like ARMA 2. I hope the GTX 1070 will have enough power to push 4k60hz until affordable 4k120hz is a reality.

I plan on relegating the R9 290 to the x8 slot and comparing it to the 1070 in x8 mode as well. It should be a fun bench-off. Both my Tri-X and the Gaming are gigantic cards; it will be funny to see them cramped in the case.

From the reviews I've seen I don't think it's quite there honestly, at least not without making some fairly big detail setting sacrifices. In fact, the 1080 isn't quite there either. Affordable 4k120hz still looks to be a ways off.

I bought the 1070 FE myself, so obviously I was ok with that. I just wanted something that could push 1080p with some power to spare though. It's clearly able to do that.
 
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