nVidia GT200 Series Review Thread

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Lonyo

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Anyone know if anyone's tested the GTX 280 on a small power supply? The lowest I found was Legitreviews (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/726/6/) who used a 620w for their testing.
Seems like the card under load doesn't generally require much above 300~350w, so a quality 500w should in theory be sufficient, although close to the edge of the comfort zone.
 

ajaidevsingh

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
Originally posted by: SunnyD
ArsTechnica's review sums it up:

It's hard to justify buying a $649 GTX 280 when it's outperformed by a Palit 9800 GX2 that happens to cost $141 less, and I know which card I'd personally pick.

The GX2 wins a good portion of the tests over the GTX280. The 280 is no slouch, but at that price point... most definitely NOT worth it.

But i did read that 280 SLi is better than a GX2 SLi in overall scaling...

That may be so, but are you planning on dropping $1200 for "improved scaling"? I'm not.

For 280 SLi it is req. to have a small nuclear plant, which was pointed out in this forum somewhere but i sadlly dont and neither will i give 1K for some half baked cake...!!!

Nvidia did not fair well this time around lets hope they soon bring out a 55nm GTX 240 "8800GT Type" which is cheap and a hot performer!! But i can not wait till then i am buying either 4870 or GTX 260 asap!!


Fair well compared to whom? Themselves?!?!?!?!?

Lets wait on what AMD has before claiming Nvidia didnt fair well.

Well yes the 9800 GX2...

GX2 costs $150 less and perform's as good if not better!!!
 

LightningRider

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Has anyone seen any temperature comparisons? I was going to get the GTX 280 but at the price it's at I don't think it's a good move, even with a step up from a 9800GTX. Yet I could step up to a GTX 260 for a pretty cheap price but I want to know the temperatures of the GTX 260 before I do.

Anyone seen any temps?
 

AzN

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Nov 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Originally posted by: trajan2050
G280 will just get better and better. For a high end monitor this is the only way to go.


Because if ATI doesnt kick the shit out of Nvidia this time then youll have no other choice will you.........im sure Nvidia could release a much better card than this just ask Azn.

If they asked you they would surely tell you go back to playing consoles. :laugh:
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
Originally posted by: SunnyD
ArsTechnica's review sums it up:

It's hard to justify buying a $649 GTX 280 when it's outperformed by a Palit 9800 GX2 that happens to cost $141 less, and I know which card I'd personally pick.

The GX2 wins a good portion of the tests over the GTX280. The 280 is no slouch, but at that price point... most definitely NOT worth it.

But i did read that 280 SLi is better than a GX2 SLi in overall scaling...

That may be so, but are you planning on dropping $1200 for "improved scaling"? I'm not.

For 280 SLi it is req. to have a small nuclear plant, which was pointed out in this forum somewhere but i sadlly dont and neither will i give 1K for some half baked cake...!!!

Nvidia did not fair well this time around lets hope they soon bring out a 55nm GTX 240 "8800GT Type" which is cheap and a hot performer!! But i can not wait till then i am buying either 4870 or GTX 260 asap!!


Fair well compared to whom? Themselves?!?!?!?!?

Lets wait on what AMD has before claiming Nvidia didnt fair well.

Well yes the 9800 GX2...

GX2 costs $150 less and perform's as good if not better!!!

Ok and? Nvidia has two products to AMD's none? I think Nvidia's launch accomplished what they wanted. A single GPU in the high end space that introduces new technologies and more brute force for developers to work with.

See my above post for my opinion on where the 9800 GX2 is heading. It will soon be the GT2.xx vs all.
 

ajaidevsingh

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Originally posted by: Azn
I don't doubt 280gtx will hold the crown for 2x the price and 1.5x the power consumption over RV770.

AMD is sure going to kick in the price performance though even take the crown back with R700.

I heard R700 will cost <$500, if that is true GTX280 is gonna drop price like a anchor in the sea of love..

Had to bold that..hehe
 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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If you want to be a early adopter of the cutting-edge of the high-end, you pay the price. I cant wait for this bad boy tomorrow. I love how the ATI fanboys are pretending like they have any idea how they will perform against each other yet. Getting my debit card ready for tomorrow!!!!
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Originally posted by: trajan2050
G280 will just get better and better. For a high end monitor this is the only way to go.


Because if ATI doesnt kick the shit out of Nvidia this time then youll have no other choice will you.........im sure Nvidia could release a much better card than this just ask Azn.

If they asked you they would surely slap you in the face.

Temps from the Techreport
 

JPB

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Like I posted earlier, I expected more performance than the GTX280 puts out.

The ones that are in love with the GTX280 are fans of NV and trying to get noticed by Nvidia.

Is this your campaign guys ? Not every one gets to be a Focus Group Member. Give it up already.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: JPB
Like I posted earlier, I expected more performance than the GTX280 puts out.

The ones that are in love with the GTX280 are fans of NV and trying to get noticed by Nvidia.

Is this your campaign guys ? Not every one gets to be a Focus Group Member. Give it up already.

Tin foil hat for one please

:disgust:

 

JACKDRUID

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Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

IMHO at $500 the GTX280 is a nice improvement to the 9800GX2 since it is a single GPU

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agree totally. $500/350 would make this a much more attractive generation of cards.
 

ajaidevsingh

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I am one of those ppl who can say "I bought a Geforce2 for $300" and i did not regret my buy but with 2900pro and 9800GX2 it was the a different story all together...
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: Extelleron
You do realize G92 and G80 are exactly the same thing in terms of specs, except G92 has a 1:1 ratio of TA:TF and integrates the display chip on die?

RV770 is a doubling of RV670, as I just showed you. Did you read my post? Is shading performance, texture performance, and memory bandwidth not enough? Transistor numbers are not important. The R600 design takes up much less space than G80 per ALU and that's why AMD can fit so much more in not so much more space.
Why stop there and not mention being on the same process, sharing the same denominator with memory controllers/bus width, and otherwise doubling pretty much every spec on G92? You already covered the biggest difference though which is full FP64 precision compard to FP32, which was a big enough difference to make it competitive with G80 even though it had its bandwidth, bus and ROPs cut. Simply put GT200 is more closely derived from G92 than G80, as I stated originally.

And RV770 doubles RV670 through architectural increases and clock speed increases in some areas but not others, the most notable deficiency being ROPs. We'll see but from specs alone expecting 2x the performance is clearly optimistic.
 

ajaidevsingh

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
Originally posted by: SunnyD
ArsTechnica's review sums it up:

It's hard to justify buying a $649 GTX 280 when it's outperformed by a Palit 9800 GX2 that happens to cost $141 less, and I know which card I'd personally pick.

The GX2 wins a good portion of the tests over the GTX280. The 280 is no slouch, but at that price point... most definitely NOT worth it.

But i did read that 280 SLi is better than a GX2 SLi in overall scaling...

That may be so, but are you planning on dropping $1200 for "improved scaling"? I'm not.

For 280 SLi it is req. to have a small nuclear plant, which was pointed out in this forum somewhere but i sadlly dont and neither will i give 1K for some half baked cake...!!!

Nvidia did not fair well this time around lets hope they soon bring out a 55nm GTX 240 "8800GT Type" which is cheap and a hot performer!! But i can not wait till then i am buying either 4870 or GTX 260 asap!!


Fair well compared to whom? Themselves?!?!?!?!?

Lets wait on what AMD has before claiming Nvidia didnt fair well.

Well yes the 9800 GX2...

GX2 costs $150 less and perform's as good if not better!!!

Ok and? Nvidia has two products to AMD's none? I think Nvidia's launch accomplished what they wanted. A single GPU in the high end space that introduces new technologies and more brute force for developers to work with.

See my above post for my opinion on where the 9800 GX2 is heading. It will soon be the GT2.xx vs all.

9800 GX2 goes bye bye like the 7 series GX2 but do recall the price difference between the 8 series and 7 series GX2 !!! Also AMD has R700 which is said to share L3 that makes it what "OS see's one core not CF" but thats a thing of the future!!
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: biostud
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: modoheo
We'll see what effect updated drivers have over the next few months, but is anyone besides me extremely disappointed that the GTX280 can barely keep up with a 9800GX2? I was expecting a MUCH greater leap forward in terms of real world gaming performance.

No, it is two GPU's vs one. It is right where I expected it to be.

So ATM what you the extra $$$ for are to be relieved of the problems of SLI.

Or, the possibility for much higher performing SLi as scaling per GPU decreases as the number of GPUs increases with any brand of multicard.

Not to mention the benefits of having 1GB of 512 bit access RAM as opposed to 512MB of 256bit access RAM- which any high res gamer can tell you has much value itself.


 

ajaidevsingh

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Pls, some one upload the nvidia new demo's video file on veoh or something....

"Not youtube somewhere clear"
 

RussianSensation

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Originally posted by: modoheo
We'll see what effect updated drivers have over the next few months, but is anyone besides me extremely disappointed that the GTX280 can barely keep up with a 9800GX2? I was expecting a MUCH greater leap forward in terms of real world gaming performance.

6800U -> 7800GTX 256mb? That was far worse of a leap. GTX 280 is nothing but a revised G80 card so a similar gain is to be expected. Also, outperforming top dual gpu 9800 GX2 is nothing to sniff at. The only thing is NV should have delivered GTX 280 at 9800 GX2's price. As it is now, ATI has a strong shot at gaining market share
 

Quiksilver

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Meh. I expected a bit better from the GTX 280. It's equivalent to a 9800GX2 on average, I expected it to be a little better than that; especially after all the hype.
 

extra

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Well I guess I will weigh in. "Meh". It's an awesome chip and will dominated the extremely high end builds when SLI'd I would imagine. However without a very large price drop AND Hopefully a die shrink to get power consumption under control this is simply not a chip most of us will be interested in. Ever

That power consumption is absolutely balls-to-the-wall insane and would cost most of us a very sizable sum of cash to have around in our main systems. That card takes as much power as this entire computer does while playing games.

I looked at the price and was like meh, it will drop. Drivers will get better. But that power consumption is killer for me. Absolutely killer. It's enough to negate most of the work I did putting in CF bulbs. We got our electric bill down from $145 to $30 by managing our use of heat, turning computers off, and replacing bulbs. Literally (close to exact amounts, was like 29 dollars and some cents last month, woohoo).

Still, those with cash (and more power too those that do!) will have a great new chip to SLI up and get insane performance at right now!

And Nvidia i'm sure won't be using this large process forever, there will unavoidably be a die shrink at some point I would imagine.

What I don't get though is that right now, at that price point, it looks like the ONLY people this will appeal to is those who are at the very cutting edge and are going to SLI them.

If you aren't going to SLI them, and are just going to buy one card, why would you pick this one at this price point? Doesn't seem to be any reason?

Good news is, when nehelam rolls around prices will have settled and will make more sense. I imagine that is when the majority of people will be looking to upgrade anyway.

Now, can't wait to see what ATI has in store as well. Please please please not use as much power.
 

OCGuy

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No offense, but if you have to worry about a couple dollars in power bills, a top of the line card probably isnt for you anyway.

This card would be much more attractive @ $599, which is where Im sure it will end up soon. EVGA has it listed for $649, and e-tailers generally have the cards for around $50 less after launch.
 

Quiksilver

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Originally posted by: extra
If you aren't going to SLI them, and are just going to buy one card, why would you pick this one at this price point? Doesn't seem to be any reason?

Now, can't wait to see what ATI has in store as well. Please please please not use as much power.

Those who do purchase this card will be ones who don't have SLI motherboards (p35, p45, x38, x48..)

I'd like to see ATI's offering now too though.

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Another review using factory OC'd card:
http://www.techpowerup.com/rev...e_GTX_280_Amp_Edition/
 
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